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For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

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I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:
“Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47, and we’re not going to allow it to be used against your fellow Americans anymore,”
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Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
 
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O'Rouke is nobody trying to be a somebody. What he says is desperate and irrelevant.
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
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I favor reasonable gun laws I want something done to curb mass shootings. I don't favor confiscating firearms from responsible, law abiding citizens. That part just isn't right.
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
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If there were gun buyback programs and that was a law and gun owners refused to hand in their guns but fought back. They would no longer be law abiding citizens.

These people were for slavery, segregation, and against paying taxes. Yet they all do them now.
 
other : the comments were dumb.

there is one issue in this election, and that's getting Anus P. McPuckerface voted out of office. stirring up the grumpy old boomstickers into a frenzy isn't going to help. win first.
 
NeverTrump said:
If there were gun buyback programs and that was a law and gun owners refused to hand in their guns but fought back. They would no longer be law abiding citizens.

These people were for slavery, segregation, and against paying taxes. Yet they all do them now.
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Voluntary buy backs are fine with me. Mandatory ones are not.
 
There's probably no need to institute blanket bans. Voluntary buybacks with licensing restrictions could start at the same time; gun show sales loopholes could be closed and eventually the presence of such weapons heavily reduced in the market. No need to just literally grab everyone's guns. It could be a ten-year project and still save many lives.
 
joko104 said:
O'Rouke is nobody trying to be a somebody. What he says is desperate and irrelevant.
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I just read your signature. You do know that the fantasy would only last till the woman finds a man with a washer and dryer and dishwasher.:mrgreen:
 
bad for O Rourke Don't stop ar15 sales but you will need a licensee and insurance to own one forgot background check and a safe in your house to keep it
 
I wonder how many of his t-shirts have sold:

https://store.betoorourke.com/

I think it was political suicide. He was already 2/3-dead anyway, though.
 
One thing I DID noticed (the day after), was how Rush and the other assorted liars started with: "He wants to take our guns!!!!" Same ol' lying, bullsh## meant to stir up the people that should know better.
 
NeverTrump said:
If there were gun buyback programs and that was a law and gun owners refused to hand in their guns but fought back. They would no longer be law abiding citizens.

These people were for slavery, segregation, and against paying taxes. Yet they all do them now.
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Who the hell are "these people" you're talking about?
 
uptower said:
There's probably no need to institute blanket bans. Voluntary buybacks with licensing restrictions could start at the same time; gun show sales loopholes could be closed and eventually the presence of such weapons heavily reduced in the market. No need to just literally grab everyone's guns. It could be a ten-year project and still save many lives.
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Nothing wrong with voluntary buybacks, I agree. Might even affect murder rate 2-3 places to the right of the decimal. "Gun show loophole" is largely a urban legend. People in the business of selling guns must be licensed and conduct background checks on all customers. Some gun shows all general public to sell one or two guns w/o background checks.
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
Click to expand...

I voted:
Alarming
Unconstitutional
politically suicidal
other

I would have voted a win for trump and the Rs if it was just between trump and O'Rourke but thats not the case

im not a fan of the NRA, i was a member and then stop being one once i found out more about them and seen some things they do.

Regardless though banning are silly to me and i certainly wont be giving up my rifle.

Now with that side im also not against new gun laws/restrictions but they have to meet the requirements i always mention.

if the law punishes the bad guys and doesnt endanger me and or my loved ones while empowering criminals ill probably support it.
Ill support laws that you know, actually could work to punish/deter criminals/crimes. Taking my rifle doesnt do that in anyway.
 
plutonium said:
bad for O Rourke Don't stop ar15 sales but you will need a licensee and insurance to own one forgot background check and a safe in your house to keep it
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And the licensing agency is going to know that buyers is a good guy not planning on shooting up a shopping mall how?
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
Click to expand...

Im not a NRA member. I also find O'Rourke's comment alarming and ignorant. If he was elected president I see no way in which such a policy could be passed into law.
An AR-15 as well as an AK47 is just a semiautomatic rifle. There is nothing special about it, there are other semiautomatic rifles out there that have the same rate of fire and have a far more damaging ammunition to get hit by. The only thing I see is that they are popular and tend to be cheaper then other styles.
How do you ban them or even take them? You would have to ban all semi-auto rifles that are magazine feed not just ARs or AKs. And I see that style of force confiscation and ban being a huge problem. An assault weapons ban is such a vague term that really has no meaning so I assume when they want this style of ban their either going back to the 90s ban or using the verbiage California has in there assault weapons ban. Which doesn't take away or ban anyone's AR-15 or AK-47. They literally just take off any fore grip and either change the pistol grip to a normal stock or put a grip fin that doesn't allow the thumb to wrapped around it. So its solves nothing and I find anyone who supports it or advocates for it to be to stupid to have any power in regulating guns.
 
uptower said:
There's probably no need to institute blanket bans. Voluntary buybacks with licensing restrictions could start at the same time; gun show sales loopholes could be closed and eventually the presence of such weapons heavily reduced in the market. No need to just literally grab everyone's guns. It could be a ten-year project and still save many lives.
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Could you educate me on the gun show loophole?
If you mean private sells why not say as such?
To my knowledge there is nothing at a gun show that's any different outside of that gun show.
 
Not an NRA member. (I don't follow herds)

Unconstitutional and political suicide. But then, he never had a chance anyway.

Beto has been dismissed by the Democrats in regard to the primary...but he is still useful in terms of Party political theater.
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
Click to expand...

I own guns. I have a CC permit. I am a lifetime NRA member. I am a "regular" person.
 
HIP56948 said:
One thing I DID noticed (the day after), was how Rush and the other assorted liars started with: "He wants to take our guns!!!!" Same ol' lying, bullsh## meant to stir up the people that should know better.
Click to expand...

“Hell, yes, we’re going to take your AR-15, your AK-47, and we’re not going to allow it to be used against your fellow Americans anymore,”

How else can you interpret that?
 
jdog21 said:
Im not a NRA member. I also find O'Rourke's comment alarming and ignorant. If he was elected president I see no way in which such a policy could be passed into law.
An AR-15 as well as an AK47 is just a semiautomatic rifle. There is nothing special about it, there are other semiautomatic rifles out there that have the same rate of fire and have a far more damaging ammunition to get hit by. The only thing I see is that they are popular and tend to be cheaper then other styles.
How do you ban them or even take them? You would have to ban all semi-auto rifles that are magazine feed not just ARs or AKs. And I see that style of force confiscation and ban being a huge problem. An assault weapons ban is such a vague term that really has no meaning so I assume when they want this style of ban their either going back to the 90s ban or using the verbiage California has in there assault weapons ban. Which doesn't take away or ban anyone's AR-15 or AK-47. They literally just take off any fore grip and either change the pistol grip to a normal stock or put a grip fin that doesn't allow the thumb to wrapped around it. So its solves nothing and I find anyone who supports it or advocates for it to be to stupid to have any power in regulating guns.
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AR 15 and AK 47 are also terms used to describe in vague terms something totally different. I doubt there are more than a few thousand in circulation. Hence the need for further description. 100% of which are cosmetic bolt ons having nothing to do with being effective killing machines.
 
bearpoker said:
I favor reasonable gun laws I want something done to curb mass shootings. I don't favor confiscating firearms from responsible, law abiding citizens. That part just isn't right.
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Those two statements are totally different issues. There's no reason to believe more gun laws will curb mass shootings.
 
Dragonfly said:
I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

You know, this one:


Do you find it frightening?
Intriguing?
Refreshing?
Alarming?
Anti-American?
Unconstitutional?
Brave?
Ignorant?

Something else?

If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
What are your thoughts on his comment?

Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
Click to expand...

Politically, I don't think it makes a difference either way as the folks that are big 2nd Amendment voters, never vote Democrat anyway.

However, more importantly, it doesn't do anything about the murder rate in this country. Our murder rate in this country is 4 to 7 times what it is in any of our peer nations, and that is because we have way more guns floating around per-capita than any of our modern developed peer nations have. However, it's not ARs that are responsible for the vast majority of murders in this country, it's handguns. So what would be the point of banning ARs? Moreover, you couldn't ban handguns without changing the constitution, so I am not sure what the point of any of this is.
 
jimbo said:
AR 15 and AK 47 are also terms used to describe in vague terms something totally different. I doubt there are more than a few thousand in circulation. Hence the need for further description. 100% of which are cosmetic bolt ons having nothing to do with being effective killing machines.
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All rifles are effective killing machines.
 
HIP56948 said:
One thing I DID noticed (the day after), was how Rush and the other assorted liars started with: "He wants to take our guns!!!!" Same ol' lying, bullsh## meant to stir up the people that should know better.
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How is repeating what he said "lying"?
 
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