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    18 21.18%
  • frightening

    12 14.12%
  • refreshing

    10 11.76%
  • unconstitutional

    37 43.53%
  • insane

    17 20.00%
  • politically suicidal

    26 30.59%
  • brave & timely

    6 7.06%
  • exciting

    5 5.88%
  • clear win for R's and Trump

    20 23.53%
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    22 25.88%
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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    Ever seen how militarized the police are?
    yeah, the war on drugs is a main reason for that nonsense
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Still nobody takes a guess why other countries with proper or even strict gun regulations dont have our gun problem?

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Mustachio View Post
    That you implied constitutional rights cannot be regulated. It was up there in the first sentence if you missed that part.
    Nonsense. You're reading what isn't there.
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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    Still nobody takes a guess why other countries with proper or even strict gun regulations dont have our gun problem?
    It's a giant coincidence!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas giants View Post
    It's a giant coincidence!!!!!
    Bcuz bcuz! The swedes are just inherently superior or muh ethnostate or somethin...

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    O'Rourke's just an opportunist, say anything to stay on the stage. He's done, it just hasn't caught up to his feeble brain yet. Give the man a skateboard and a lunch counter and he's golden. Ask him to come up with a coherent policy and he's a dumb ass.

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I asked this earlier, never got an honest answer.

    Are the Ar-15 and AK-47 weapons platforms the only way one can protect their homes, families, and/or themselves?

    Or, are there plenty of other weapons just as capable of self-defense and protection?
    Are 24 Hour News Stations the only way that someone can engage in Free press and free speech, and if not, would that justify the President or any other politician deciding they could shut down whatever TV News Station they thought was bad for the country?

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I realize this won't matter to some, but I'd prefer that those of you who are die-hard, when you pry my cold dead hands off it, gun loving lifetime NRA members, that you'd refrain from responding to this thread and/or poll. We all already know how you'll respond. I'm looking for the thoughts of those who are not so predictable.

    I want to know how the "regular" folks in America have reacted to Beto O'Rouke's comment in Debate #3.

    You know, this one:


    Do you find it frightening?
    Intriguing?
    Refreshing?
    Alarming?
    Anti-American?
    Unconstitutional?
    Brave?
    Ignorant?

    Something else?

    If you're not one of the 6-12 folks we have here who go ballistic at the mere mention of gun control I'd like to know:
    What are your thoughts on his comment?

    Are you scared it might be the catalyst for 4 more years of Trump and Republican dominance?
    Or do you believe most of the American public is ready for an approach that radical?
    Refreshing. I don't think it's radical to want to ban or take away a type of firearm which never should have been allowed on the market in the first place. And of course, the notion that an AR-15 is just scary looking and not particularly dangerous is the most absurd thing a pro-gun advocate could say. It's not anti-American, nor is it even anti-Second Amendment. Also, the NRA is relatively toothless as an organization at this point, and anyone who fears their power or influence should be ashamed of themselves as a politician.

    I also disagree that this is a one-issue election. Trump cannot just be beaten or opposed, the Democrats have to stand for SOMETHING other than being the lesser of two goddamn evils. What do centrist Democrats stand for? Can anyone tell me? Democrats have to put something on the table rather than being the anti-Trump. At least Beto is trying to tap into an actual issue. I give him points for that, even if he's not among my favorite candidates.
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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by bomberfox View Post
    Still nobody takes a guess why other countries with proper or even strict gun regulations dont have our gun problem?
    What amount of homicides did those countries have before they enacted their "proper or even strict gun regulations"? I see anti-2nd amendment trash all the time praise the draconian gun control laws of those countries as though somehow the amount of homicides dropped by the thousands when they enacted those laws. When in fact homicides didn't really drop. Not having a gun problem doesn't mean squat if nearly the same amount of people are still being murdered year after year. Its like putting a speed bump in a neighborhood street that doesn't have a speeding problem and then using that neighborhood as an example of speed bumps working when that neighborhood never had any problems with speeding to begin with. England and Wales their gun bans didn't really do much to curb their homicides. I would imagine its the same for other countries as well that enacted similar laws. So this "but other countries don't have the gun problems we have" is a bogus argument.

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    Re: For Those NOT Lifetime NRA Members - O'Rourke's Comment

    Quote Originally Posted by Dans La Lune View Post
    Refreshing. I don't think it's radical to want to ban or take away a type of firearm which never should have been allowed on the market in the first place. And of course, the notion that an AR-15 is just scary looking and not particularly dangerous is the most absurd thing a pro-gun advocate could say. It's not anti-American, nor is it even anti-Second Amendment. Also, the NRA is relatively toothless as an organization at this point, and anyone who fears their power or influence should be ashamed of themselves as a politician.

    I also disagree that this is a one-issue election. Trump cannot just be beaten or opposed, the Democrats have to stand for SOMETHING other than being the lesser of two goddamn evils. What do centrist Democrats stand for? Can anyone tell me? Democrats have to put something on the table rather than being the anti-Trump. At least Beto is trying to tap into an actual issue. I give him points for that, even if he's not among my favorite candidates.
    that sort of silliness is hilarious. The US government sold hundreds of thousands of MI carbines to us citizens. Amuse me and tell me why the AR 15 should not have been sold to citizens in light of that fact. And then square that with the holdings of MILLER and HELLER
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    Yeah; a shotgun IS a rifle; it uses a different load.
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    You know that Reagan signed the Brady Bill - right?
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    The only "sport" that most gun owners participate in is suicide or murder.

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