Will vote for Trump in 2020, but didn't in 2016 ?

Oborosen · Aug 20, 2019

Jesse Booth said:
Just to be perfectly clear, you know he's never been a registered Democrat, correct? He's just primarying with them, in order to avoid splitting the left wing vote. As for the collusion thing, when all Trump does is dodge and duck away from simple inquiries & ignore the reports of his own nation's government in favor of taking a foreign leader's word at face value, you can't blame people for finding that all suspicious as hell.

I don't care that he isn't registered as a Democrat.

I don't care what people choose to think is suspicious of anyone. A false premise is what it is.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
Fine. At least you admit that you are as low as Trump. But it is rather hypocritical to claim Trump is a scumbag while you carry on the exact same way. Your side is full of **** when they claim the moral high ground.

Trump is not a scumbag because he isn't pc. I don't care about that. But hey, at least you.....I got nothing. You are still being a hypocrite, and you are still avoiding the majority of my post. Pretty sure you realize you don't really have a rebuttal so all you have left is "don't be mean to Trump cause it hurts my feelings". But while you are crying that people make fun of the cheetoh remember "I will not be happy living in a world where the law of the land is political correctness". Apparently when you said that you meant no PC but cheetohs and racists need protecting and they are off limits.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Tangmo said:
I wuz going to take your word for it until I read the rest of your post.

Especially the part where you claim to be an independent. Independents definitely have their doctrines yet your posts are dogma entirely. I haven't read all of anyone's posts but I have yet to read a post by you that criticizes a Trump absolutist such as yourself.

If you search really hard (and by that I mean look at almost any post he makes) you can find him defending a praising Trump. He is one of the more right wing extremists on the site and one of Trumps most loyal defenders.

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Tangmo said:
I wuz going to take your word for it until I read the rest of your post.

Especially the part where you claim to be an independent. Independents definitely have their doctrines yet your posts are dogma entirely. I haven't read all of anyone's posts but I have yet to read a post by you that criticizes a Trump absolutist such as yourself.

Trump has done many things I don't particularly like, just as all presidents have. Hell, I didn't even vote for him and may not in 2020. To be 100% critical of Trump 24/7 just shows the level of filth coming from the left.

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
Trump is not a scumbag because he isn't pc. I don't care about that. But hey, at least you.....I got nothing. You are still being a hypocrite, and you are still avoiding the majority of my post. Pretty sure you realize you don't really have a rebuttal so all you have left is "don't be mean to Trump cause it hurts my feelings". But while you are crying that people make fun of the cheetoh remember "I will not be happy living in a world where the law of the land is political correctness". Apparently when you said that you meant no PC but cheetohs and racists need protecting and they are off limits.

Your post is filled with the same utter hatred and disgust that you claim Trump is filled with. That is the hypocrisy. If you are going to claim the moral high ground then you need to take the moral high ground. If you want to stoop to Trump's level then you are no better than him.

Logician Man · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
Your post is filled with the same utter hatred and disgust that you claim Trump is filled with. That is the hypocrisy. If you are going to claim the moral high ground then you need to take the moral high ground. If you want to stoop to Trump's level then you are no better than him.

Speaking of stooping to bottom feeding ground, is it still your contention it is better to elect a pedophile than a Democrat ?

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
Your post is filled with the same utter hatred and disgust that you claim Trump is filled with. That is the hypocrisy. If you are going to claim the moral high ground then you need to take the moral high ground. If you want to stoop to Trump's level then you are no better than him.

You are wrong. I don't care if he isn't pc. Trump not being politically correct has nothing to do with why I hate his orange ass. I'm sorry if making fun of your hero makes your feelings hurt. Perhaps a cheetoh stained hankey can assist with that. I, and most people in general I believe, are kind of tired of always having to be careful of what we say because you people are always offended. Get thicker skin and stop your whining.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
Trump has done many things I don't particularly like, just as all presidents have. Hell, I didn't even vote for him and may not in 2020. To be 100% critical of Trump 24/7 just shows the level of filth coming from the left.

You are 100% supportive and defend Trump to no end. Pretending you don't like the guy makes you far more than just a hypocrite.

Hari Seldon · Aug 20, 2019

SDET said:
I plan to vote for Trump in 2020, but didn't vote for him in 2016. Are there others on this board that fit that description?

You couldn't pay me enough to vote for 5 deferment cadet fake bone spurs, the narcissist and chief. Or scumbag for short.

Tangmo · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
Trump has done many things I don't particularly like, just as all presidents have. Hell, I didn't even vote for him and may not in 2020. To be 100% critical of Trump 24/7 just shows the level of filth coming from the left.

That's not a good word.

It seems you need to be so advised, and so you are advised. Others over there say "scum" when referring to critics of their God's Instrument Trump.

You assail and assault the left 100% while giving a free ride to your fellows on the Right. You and your fellows over there.

You're heavily invested in attacking Trump's critics for one who says he didn't vote for him and may not vote for him in the coming election. You ignore Putin and Trump to include the election and all else from Russia. Methinks you are one of those guys who'd rather be ruled by Russians than be governed by Democrats or democrats.

There are a lot of youse guyz over there. There's a certain percentage of the Putin-Trump Rowers who avoid any and all mention of Putin-Trump and their Rowers. They think ever so wrongly it will all go away if they play it down or pretend to ignore it. It's doesn't and it won't go away. It will get only worse, the closer we get to the election and then when the election occurs. Trump will go one way or the other and by means of the Constitution.

uptower · Aug 20, 2019

SDET said:
You're just wrong. If want to call Gary Johnson voters "in a coma" so be it. Evan McMullin got over 700,000 votes in spite of limited ballot access. Do you think even 5 % of those voters will vote Democrat in 2020?

Even Twump's beloved Faux News polls him behind the top 3-4 Dems. All of them.

Hey he could still win thru the EC like last time, but let's dispense with the myth he has broad appeal. He's got his base and nobody else.

Tangmo · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
If you search really hard (and by that I mean look at almost any post he makes) you can find him defending a praising Trump. He is one of the more right wing extremists on the site and one of Trumps most loyal defenders.

A guy can change his nick as some do but trying to present the facade of being a different person rarely works out, if ever. We are who we are so running up a different flag only draws more attention to the fact.

I'll call someone a fool or a sap or even a traitor but I try to stay away from words like filth or scum; rodent in any of its forms is especially dehumanizing. Trump worshipers are however so fanatical and absolute they'll say anything sooner or later.

Then sooner or later, in their desperation, they'll try doing anything. With the election coming up, which is addressed at other threads, I expect we'll see all of this come to its resounding conclusion. Constitutionally of course. So your preaching to the choir post is most welcome yet I look forward to the coming day we all break out in song together.

I do.

MrWonka · Aug 20, 2019

Oborosen said:
Then again, It might've been the young progressive's committee members calling me a house nigger to my face, that helped make that decision for me as well.

Well if you're making these types of choices what exactly do you expect? I mean how exactly do you expect anyone to have respect for you when you say you like Bernie, but then voted for Trump? When you say you like Yang and Gabbard(even though Bernie is still in it), but when they lose you'll vote Trump.

You have sided with the slave owners because the other slaves said something mean about you one time. That's exactly what you're doing so what exactly do you expect to be called?

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
You are wrong. I don't care if he isn't pc. Trump not being politically correct has nothing to do with why I hate his orange ass. I'm sorry if making fun of your hero makes your feelings hurt. Perhaps a cheetoh stained hankey can assist with that. I, and most people in general I believe, are kind of tired of always having to be careful of what we say because you people are always offended. Get thicker skin and stop your whining.

You criticize Trump for calling others names, while you call him names. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
You are 100% supportive and defend Trump to no end. Pretending you don't like the guy makes you far more than just a hypocrite.

I don't believe I ever said I don't like the guy. As with any president, I agree with some of the stuff he does and some I don't agree with. You lefties seem to think that unless you are a 24/7 anti-Trumpster who eats, sleeps and breathes anti-Trump, that you are somehow a Trump supporter. Quit criticizing Trump 24/7 and I won't have to spend my time defending him 24/7 from your nonsense. And if you can't show respect for him then you are no better than he is. If you want to take the moral high ground then you have to take the moral high ground.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
You criticize Trump for calling others names, while you call him names. The hypocrisy is astounding.

Who did I criticize for calling names?

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
I don't believe I ever said I don't like the guy. As with any president, I agree with some of the stuff he does and some I don't agree with. You lefties seem to think that unless you are a 24/7 anti-Trumpster who eats, sleeps and breathes anti-Trump, that you are somehow a Trump supporter. Quit criticizing Trump 24/7 and I won't have to spend my time defending him 24/7 from your nonsense. And if you can't show respect for him then you are no better than he is. If you want to take the moral high ground then you have to take the moral high ground.

I won't quit criticizing your lord cheetoh. It isn't going to happen. If the delicate little cheetoh can't handle being made fun of then perhaps he shouldn't be a moronic racist piece of ****. I won't show respect for him because I don't respect him. There is nothing about him that is worthy of respect. He has no redeemable qualities. He is absolutely the worst America has to offer.

Tangmo · Aug 20, 2019

Oborosen said:
The fact of the matter is Sanders was, and still is a self described Democratic Socialist. Even though, if asked. He'd have a hard time actually getting the point of what that really means across now.

I have no issue with say that Bernie was going to lose. But the DNC pulling that kind of crap to ensure that Hillary got everything she needed was one straw too many.

Moore had some interesting ideas, despite being somewhat certifiable IMO. It will be interesting to see how he does in the next election run, or if the left will attempt to smear him again with whatever they can pull out of thin air. That show alone will make it most likely worth a watch at least.

Might I ask what it is that you consider these happy days to be?

Bernie knows socialism is government ownership of the means of communication, transportation, production. And Bernie knows he's not a socialist. Neither are you. Neither are 98% of the posters who ID themselves as socialists. People in the American system of politics and government who say they're socialists are bomb throwers. Nothing but. When you inquire what they mean by socialist they invariably come up with eccentric and egocentric definitions they themselves devised by their own machinations.

You say Roy Moore has some interesting ideas and I say Roy Moore couldn't run a dog pound.

I made clear in my post you quoted what a return to happy dayze in Alabama would be for you. IMHO anyway. Bama is a Red Square State in the USA so you're half way there already living in Bama and calling the state home. Roy Moore being elected to the Senate as Sen. Doug Jones falls by the wayside in public approval would make both yours and his happy house and home complete. That's what I said. You and Moore being Conservatives and all of that. Preservers of the heritage. I recall one of my favorite avatars at DP had you in your uniform besides. In Red Square.

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Tangmo said:
That's not a good word.

It seems you need to be so advised, and so you are advised. Others over there say "scum" when referring to critics of their God's Instrument Trump.

You assail and assault the left 100% while giving a free ride to your fellows on the Right. You and your fellows over there.

You're heavily invested in attacking Trump's critics for one who says he didn't vote for him and may not vote for him in the coming election. You ignore Putin and Trump to include the election and all else from Russia. Methinks you are one of those guys who'd rather be ruled by Russians than be governed by Democrats or democrats.

There are a lot of youse guyz over there. There's a certain percentage of the Putin-Trump Rowers who avoid any and all mention of Putin-Trump and their Rowers. They think ever so wrongly it will all go away if they play it down or pretend to ignore it. It's doesn't and it won't go away. It will get only worse, the closer we get to the election and then when the election occurs. Trump will go one way or the other and by means of the Constitution.

I was upset at many on the right for being scum while Obama was president and now that Trump is president, the left are out to prove that they can outscum what the right did to Obama. I am this way now because Trump is president and the left currently represent most of the scum. If Hillary had been elected most of the scum would still be on the right. Both sides are out to outscum the other side.

Fledermaus · Aug 20, 2019

Tangmo said:
Bernie knows socialism is government ownership of the means of communication, transportation, production. And Bernie knows he's not a socialist. Neither are you. Neither are 98% of the posters who ID themselves as socialists. People in the American system of politics and government who say they're socialists are bomb throwers. Nothing but. When you inquire what they mean by socialist they invariably come up with eccentric and egocentric definitions they themselves devised by their own machinations.

You say Roy Moore has some interesting ideas and I say Roy Moore couldn't run a dog pound.

I made clear in my post you quoted what a return to happy dayze in Alabama would be for you. IMHO anyway. Bama is a Red Square State in the USA so you're half way there already living in Bama and calling the state home. Roy Moore being elected to the Senate as Sen. Doug Jones falls by the wayside in public approval would make both yours and his happy house and home complete. That's what I said. You and Moore being Conservatives and all of that. Preservers of the heritage. I recall one of my favorite avatars at DP had you in your uniform besides. In Red Square.

“In Vermont, everybody knows that I am a socialist and that many people in our movement, not all, are socialists. And as often as not — and this is an interesting point that is the honest-to-God truth — what people will say is, ‘I don’t really know what socialism is, but if you’re not a Democrat or a Republican, you’re OK with me.’ That’s true. And I think there has been too much of a reluctance on the part of progressives and radicals to use the word ‘socialism.’”

Bernie Sanders, 1989

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
Who did I criticize for calling names?

So, you're ok with Trump calling everyone names?

Moderate Right · Aug 20, 2019

Kreton said:
I won't quit criticizing your lord cheetoh. It isn't going to happen. If the delicate little cheetoh can't handle being made fun of then perhaps he shouldn't be a moronic racist piece of ****. I won't show respect for him because I don't respect him. There is nothing about him that is worthy of respect. He has no redeemable qualities. He is absolutely the worst America has to offer.

It's one thing to criticize. It's quite another to call him cheetoh. All you are doing is showing that you are no better than Trump.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
So, you're ok with Trump calling everyone names?

So you have no examples of me complaining about Trump making fun of a person? Exactly. You are just blatantly lying now about my being a hypocrite in this example.

Some of Trumps targets of his jokes I find in poor taste but I am not offended by humor - even poor humor. Mocking someone for disabilities, race, or sex (really anything they can't control) or because they served our country is outside my humor and I find it disrespectful but not offensive. It just furthers my point of him being a moron.

Kreton · Aug 20, 2019

Moderate Right said:
It's one thing to criticize. It's quite another to call him cheetoh. All you are doing is showing that you are no better than Trump.

In your mind no one is better than Trump. If I proved to you I was better than Trump you'd have to start worshipping me instead of him and I don't want that. Not to mention considering your obsession with his moronic and hateful acts that are destroying our country I am not interested in doing the things you think make him so amazing. Therefore by all means, please do keep thinking I am worse than Trump.

tres borrachos · Aug 20, 2019

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016. First time since 1980 I didn't vote for the Republican Presidential candidate.

I also won't vote for Trump in 2020.

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I didn't vote Trump in 2016, but will in 2020

I did vote for Trump in 2016, but not 2020

I voted Democrat in 2016 and will again in 2020

I voted for Trump in 2016 and will again in 2020

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