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[W:118]Would it surprise you if Trump was involved Epstein's child sex trafficking scheme?

Would it surprise you if Trump was involved?

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Mongidig said:
It wouldn't surprise me if more than half of the lefties on this forum are pedophiles.
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I'm a lefty.
Are you saying that I'm a pedo? Are you saying that it's a 50-50 chance that I'm a pedo?
 
Mongidig said:
It wouldn't surprise me if more than half of the lefties on this forum are pedophiles.
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Frankly, I find your post rather reprehensible. It adds nothing of value to this discussion. Please think about what you are saying before you say it.
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I believe younger woman is a given for people at their economic level. So much so it is not mentioned unless it is really young.

There is no way that Epstein's history was not known by a lot of people, not when there is such a large list of potential pedos and rapists having gone to his island.

It is the same in Hollywood, everyone knew what a pig Weinstein was yet it was kept quiet from the public in general.
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I think your first comment is a stretch, but I understand your reasoning. And honestly, even if this activity was known by the people who participated, I would be surprised if it was something well known. Being a pig like Weinstein is one thing. Having sex parties with underage girls is a completely different animal, at least in my view. But, as I’m not a billionaire, maybe participating in an illegal activity is no big deal for those people. If that turned out to be the case, that would be the most shocking thing to me.
 
Moon said:
I think your first comment is a stretch, but I understand your reasoning. And honestly, even if this activity was known by the people who participated, I would be surprised if it was something well known. Being a pig like Weinstein is one thing. Having sex parties with underage girls is a completely different animal, at least in my view. But, as I’m not a billionaire, maybe participating in an illegal activity is no big deal for those people. If that turned out to be the case, that would be the most shocking thing to me.
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There are websites for potential "Sugar Daddies" and "Sugar Babies" where in general, younger attractive women set up profiles to attract rich older men to seek arrangements in which the older men provide the younger women money each and every month in order to be "mistress's". We are not talking about 40 year old women, we are talking about normally college age women.

We have a former PM of Italy Silvio Berlusconi who did get caught with an underage prostitute (age 17) who was rumored to have "Bunga Bunga" parties

In January 2011, Berlusconi was placed under criminal investigation relating to El Mahroug for allegedly having sex with an underage prostitute and for abuse of office relating to her release from detention.[1] Berlusconi's lawyers were quick to deny the allegations as "absurd and without foundation" and called the investigation a "serious interference with the private life of the prime minister without precedent in the judicial history of the country".[12]

The Telegraph reported on 6 March 2011 that prosecutors were days from requesting charges against Emilio Fede, a television anchorman, and Lele Mora, a well-known celebrity agent, for procuring underage girls in a "vast pimping network" to attend "bunga bunga" sex parties with the prime minister. According to the prosecutors' dossier, Fede 'discovered' El Mahroug when acting as a judge at a beauty pageant in Sicily in September 2009, and passed her on to Mora's office in central Milan, which served as a "form of 'clearing centre' for women eager to enter the prime minister's circle in pursuit of money, gifts and help with their show business careers".[13]
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Silvio Berlusconi prostitute trial - Wikipedia

We have Elite Spizter who got caught paying for call girls
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
There are websites for potential "Sugar Daddies" and "Sugar Babies" where in general, younger attractive women set up profiles to attract rich older men to seek arrangements in which the older men provide the younger women money each and every month in order to be "mistress's". We are not talking about 40 year old women, we are talking about normally college age women.

We have a former PM of Italy Silvio Berlusconi who did get caught with an underage prostitute (age 17) who was rumored to have "Bunga Bunga" parties



Silvio Berlusconi prostitute trial - Wikipedia

We have Elite Spizter who got caught paying for call girls
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Yeah, but that’s not what Epstein et. al. are accused of.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
I'm a lefty.
Are you saying that I'm a pedo? Are you saying that it's a 50-50 chance that I'm a pedo?
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I just find most lefty types to be very creepy people. Pedo's tend to be creepy people. I have no doubt Biden is one. Anthony Weiner etc.
 
Moon said:
Yeah, but that’s not what Epstein et. al. are accused of.
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Epstein was pretty much running an underage prostitution ring on his private island. I provided evidence of one of the richest and most powerful men in the world taking part in such a ring (Italian PM, Silvio) He is a billionaire, one of Italia's wealthiest people with a high level of control over Italian media, took part in an underage prostitution ring. Getting caught trying to get one of the underage girls off criminal charges she faced for stealing

Epstein of course is also being accused of rape,
 
upsideguy said:
Frankly, I find your post rather reprehensible. It adds nothing of value to this discussion. Please think about what you are saying before you say it.
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I don't trust anyone who starts a sentence with "Frankly". You need to grow up and accept other views. You people think all Conservatives are Nazis. I think it is likely that many of you are creepy pedo types.
 
Mongidig said:
I just find most lefty types to be very creepy people. Pedo's tend to be creepy people. I have no doubt Biden is one. Anthony Weiner etc.
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So quit hanging out at gay bars.
 
Mongidig said:
I don't trust anyone who starts a sentence with "Frankly". You need to grow up and accept other views. You people think all Conservatives are Nazis. I think it is likely that many of you are creepy pedo types.
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This.... thread.... is..... about..... Trump..... and...... Epstein..... not..... liberals..... or...... conservatives.

Now..... grow..... up..... and..... discuss..... like..... an...... adult..... or..... go.... play.... in..... the..... playground.
 
uptower said:
And therein lies evidence for the other possibility: that even Trump wasn't that much of a creep and distanced himself.

But I find it hard to imagine the powerful did not know what he was up to.
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There seems to be ample evidence that Bill Clinton had a deeper relationship with Epstein than Trump did. So you think Clinton knew what was going on and said and did nothing?
 
Fletch said:
There seems to be ample evidence that Bill Clinton had a deeper relationship with Epstein than Trump did. So you think Clinton knew what was going on and said and did nothing?
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Obviously I don't know for sure, none of us does. But I believe it is entirely possible that Clinton, Trump and a bunch of other powerful people had either heard the rumors or suspected it themselves. Nobody at the top ratted on him though.
 
uptower said:
I believe it is entirely possible that Clinton, Trump and a bunch of other powerful people had either heard the rumors or suspected it themselves. Nobody at the top ratted on him though.
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Given Epstein's very light sentencing and weak investigation back in 2008 I expect that powerful people were providing cover for him as well
 
Josie said:
Let's say that sometime in the future investigators find solid proof that Trump was absolutely involved in Epstein's child sex trafficking scheme. Would it surprise you?
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Yes. Trump would not have had Epstein pursued if he was involved, or made an executive order to include those crimes in the asset forfeiture category, or banned him from maralago.

He would likely have had more trips to the island.

Yes, Trump does like younger women, but he likes WOMEN, not girls.
 
Fletch said:
There seems to be ample evidence that Bill Clinton had a deeper relationship with Epstein than Trump did. So you think Clinton knew what was going on and said and did nothing?
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There seems to be ample evidence that Trump has a secret deep relationship with Epstein. Trump knew what was going on and did nothing.
 
AProudLefty said:
There seems to be ample evidence that Trump has a secret deep relationship with Epstein. Trump knew what was going on and did nothing.
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What evidence is that?
 
Mongidig said:
Do you assume all gay people are Pedo's?
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Pedophilia is a very serious accusation for anyone to haphazardly just throw a blanket of accusations over a great number of people. It's just wrong.

If Trump knew of Jeffrey Epstein's insatiable appetite for sex with younger women and even those that were underage, he's complicit.
 
uptower said:
And therein lies evidence for the other possibility: that even Trump wasn't that much of a creep and distanced himself.

But I find it hard to imagine the powerful did not know what he was up to.
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Doubt it. He was running around making jokes about Epstein loving "young" women. And there is reporting that their friendship only ended after business dealings fell through and after Trump outbid Epstein on some property.
 
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