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Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

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If all goes well, we will, best case scenario, wind up with some kind of enhanced ACA system that has a robust public option.
Obviously the big bugaboo is that tying health insurance to one's employer creates unintended consequences that reward other single payer/socialized healthcare countries. Canada, for instance, does not slap a three thousand dollar healthcare premium cost on every car built there, which is why so many American cars are built in Canada.

Neither does Mexico, which is why so many American cars are built THERE.
 
noonereal said:
Yes, Christians do not want the poor to survive illness.

Well done.
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I wouldn't know what Christians want...I'm not one.

Bravo for playing the religion card, though.
 
MollyFriend said:
Before the govt. became involved in healthcare (American Medical Association). The US had the best healthcare in the world.
A person could join a friendship club, pay two days wages to have them and their family covered for a year.

Bring back the free market.
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What does the AMA have to do with government involvement in healthcare?

How do you support the claim that the government changed the model from best healthcare in the world to pretty mediocre or even poor healthcare by first world standards? (If you are going to make a claim here please back it up with evidence.)

The overwhelming evidence is the opposite of what you suggest. Healthcare is best when government has been more involved than less.

Survey Ranks the U.S. Health Care System Lowest in Performance | Time
US healthcare worst in the developed world, study finds
US ranked worst healthcare system, while the NHS is the best | New Scientist
Why the U.S. Health-Care System Is So Bad - The Atlantic
 
MollyFriend said:
Before the govt. became involved in healthcare (American Medical Association). The US had the best healthcare in the world.
A person could join a friendship club, pay two days wages to have them and their family covered for a year.

Bring back the free market.
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And throw away modern hospital care. Most hospitals would close under a free market. Yes let's go back to the old days where all that was available was a family doctor who couldn't run tests, or do surgery, or manufacture pharmaceuticals and the average life span was 10 years less.
 
ddomenike said:
Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
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Of course. Most people are takers who want free stuff. They vote for liberals who dont care about the constitution. Most republicans just want to get reelected.
 
Carleen said:
Why is it a bad idea.
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The federal govt neither has the power nor competence to run such a service. Anything done in such a centralized and political way is bound to be full of fraud, abuse, and inefficiency.
 
@ thread OP....It's either that or eventual bankruptcy for almost everyone in America except the top 1 percent.
 
1. Yes, the United States of America will eventually have universal health care.

2. And, as in many other countries with universal health care, those people with enough money will seek out private health providers for better care and service.
 
jonny5 said:
The federal govt neither has the power nor competence to run such a service. Anything done in such a centralized and political way is bound to be full of fraud, abuse, and inefficiency.
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Like our current model!!!
 
If we ever do it will be expensive. We're the second fattest people on the planet, right behind Mexico. And we love to game any government system. So it will be expensive.
 
Mycroft said:
"Will the US ever have universal healthcare?"

I hope not.
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Your answer is why the republican party is shrinking. The well to do republicans tell YOU, you don't need universal health care and you and many others on the right believe them. You guys would rather have the insurance companies control the prices and exclude whom they wish. I would bet my right arm if people actually had to pay for their own insurance instead of getting it from a company, many would change their minds. Keep voting against your own best interests.
 
Yes, it's inevitable and only a matter of time.
 
bongsaway said:
Your answer is why the republican party is shrinking. The well to do republicans tell YOU, you don't need universal health care and you and many others on the right believe them. You guys would rather have the insurance companies control the prices and exclude whom they wish. I would bet my right arm if people actually had to pay for their own insurance instead of getting it from a company, many would change their minds. Keep voting against your own best interests.
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People that have company provided health care pay for it usually its provided as part of their compensation and lot of times they pay additional out of their checks for the coverage.
 
PirateMk1 said:
People that have company provided health care pay for it usually its provided as part of their compensation and lot of times they pay additional out of their checks for the coverage.
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Yet federal subsidies are going to be better since the federal government has proven to be able to control costs much better - see the MIC which is funded by the (single-payer?) DoD.
 
bongsaway said:
Your answer is why the republican party is shrinking. The well to do republicans tell YOU, you don't need universal health care and you and many others on the right believe them. You guys would rather have the insurance companies control the prices and exclude whom they wish. I would bet my right arm if people actually had to pay for their own insurance instead of getting it from a company, many would change their minds. Keep voting against your own best interests.
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What percentage of people would "actually have to pay for their own insurance" under M4A? That little nugget gets totally ignored - would M4A insurance costs be based on the number of insured in each household or simply a progressive percentage of income? One must be very careful in suggesting that folks should vote in their own self interest - if 70% discovered that they would be required to pay more to subsidize 30% (who would pay nothing) then they just might vote not to do so.
 
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