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Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

Will the US ever have universal healthcare?

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ddomenike

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Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
 
"Will the US ever have universal healthcare?"

I hope not.
 
Eventually, yes, but it may take a very long time. Every other modern country has already done it, it works better and is dramatically cheaper per capita. America has the most expensive and most rationed healthcare in the world with literal death panels at insurance agencies deciding who lives or dies based on profits.

It's absolutely baffling that Republicans who claim to be fiscal conservatives support such an astronomically expensive system that ranks nowhere near the top internationally in quality of care, healthcare outcomes, life expectancy, access to care, affordability, or any other metric.

Mycroft said:
"Will the US ever have universal healthcare?"

I hope not.
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Looks like somebody loves to pay more to get less while tens of millions of Americans have zero healthcare at all and tens of millions more go bankrupt or avoid seeking care due to high deductibles. For claiming to be patriots you guys sure do seem to hate Americans and don't want to see them prosper.
 
ddomenike said:
Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
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It's inevitable. More and more of the young want government to take care of them for life, it's just a matter of time.
 
1. If we have another Great Depression where almost 50% are unemployed.
2. It's the republican's fault
3. The republicans are voted out of office
4. Leaving congress, the president and the senate 98% democrat


We'll get a new New Deal with free health care and lots of other free stuff.
 
ddomenike said:
Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
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Maybe you should define what universal healthcare means to you

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I think that it is inevitable that we will eventually end up with some form of universal healthcare. It may not be single payer, though.
 
Before the govt. became involved in healthcare (American Medical Association). The US had the best healthcare in the world.
A person could join a friendship club, pay two days wages to have them and their family covered for a year.

Bring back the free market.
 
ddomenike said:
Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
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Voted "yes"

Not because of my political position on things, but more because it is the direction we are going. Way back when we all pretty much agreed that ACA was a stepping stone to some other plan that organized more under a national plan of some sort eventually. The idea of universal coverage to universal healthcare is not that big of a jump. And that pretty much means another stepping stone to an eventual universal healthcare system of some sort entirely under the hand of the Federal Government.
 
MollyFriend said:
Before the govt. became involved in healthcare (American Medical Association). The US had the best healthcare in the world.
A person could join a friendship club, pay two days wages to have them and their family covered for a year.

Bring back the free market.
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Unless of course you had cancer or special needs treatments than you were ****ed. Yeah I'm sure you loved it.
 
My guess is that we'll have something closer to first world health care access eventually. That we don't have it now is becoming increasingly idiotic. All we can do is to vote against the obstacles.
 
MollyFriend said:
Before the govt. became involved in healthcare (American Medical Association). The US had the best healthcare in the world.
A person could join a friendship club, pay two days wages to have them and their family covered for a year.

Bring back the free market.
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Praxas said:
Unless of course you had cancer or special needs treatments than you were ****ed. Yeah I'm sure you loved it.
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I call bull**** on "2 days wages paying for healthcare for a family for a year." Total unicorn fantasy nonsense.

You also glaze over the fact that prior to the ACA tens of millions of Americans were permanently blacklisted from EVER getting insurance at any price because of arbitrarily defined pre-existing conditions.
 
Yes, we’ve got the framework and platform for it now thanks to the ACA, the next coverage project is filling in the remaining gaps and enhancing affordability.
 
Something has to change.

Compared to the rest of the Western world, healthcare and prescriptions in America are rapidly becoming prohibitively expensive.
 
ddomenike said:
Remeber Medicare for all ≠ universal healthcare
Just expanding the current Medicare system to everyone would mean universal coverage.
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I'm confused. You say that Medicare for all does not equal universal healthcare and yet in your second line you basically said that if everyone had Medicare it would mean UHC. Isn't that what Medicare of all would mean?
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Eventually, yes, but it may take a very long time. Every other modern country has already done it, it works better and is dramatically cheaper per capita. America has the most expensive and most rationed healthcare in the world with literal death panels at insurance agencies deciding who lives or dies based on profits.

It's absolutely baffling that Republicans who claim to be fiscal conservatives support such an astronomically expensive system that ranks nowhere near the top internationally in quality of care, healthcare outcomes, life expectancy, access to care, affordability, or any other metric.



Looks like somebody loves to pay more to get less while tens of millions of Americans have zero healthcare at all and tens of millions more go bankrupt or avoid seeking care due to high deductibles. For claiming to be patriots you guys sure do seem to hate Americans and don't want to see them prosper.
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It only works better for the poor. For millions, it would be worse than what we have now.
 
Praxas said:
Unless of course you had cancer or special needs treatments than you were ****ed. Yeah I'm sure you loved it.
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Speaking as someone who has at least two pre-existing conditions, I have talked to many around the world and I would not want what they describe as their health care.
 
Rogue Valley said:
Something has to change.

Compared to the rest of the Western world, healthcare and prescriptions in America are rapidly becoming prohibitively expensive.
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I agree but all Democratic proposals suck.
 
Praxas said:
Unless of course you had cancer or special needs treatments than you were ****ed. Yeah I'm sure you loved it.
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It was full coverage. Why would they be ****ed as you say?
 
MollyFriend said:
It was full coverage. Why would they be ****ed as you say?
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Because people were dropped after the insurance companies found out they had cancer. Or they end up reaching their “lifetime” limit. In some cases they put you in such a high risk category you couldn’t afford it. Before the ACA rules, insurance companies had that option in many cases. Sorry but there was no golden age of insurance before the ACA if you had cancer or special needs.
 
Too many stupid people who think that ensuring the wellbeing of CEOs, HMOS and the entire medical industries predatory capitalistic and broken system with a flawed price structure is somehow “freedom”.

Now having said that, it is true maybe healthcare in the hands of the American government is a scary prospect and maybe they can’t get it right... but that’s partially down to the type of people you elect...

I love the quote that goes something like, Republicans think government can’t do anything right and elect people to prove it.
 
Greenbeard said:
The priority the rightwing puts on ensuring some people don't have access to care is just weird.
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everyone has access to health care.
 
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