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Do you think this hypothetical neighbor is a racist?

Is this hypothetical neighbor a racist?


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When campaigning for the 2016 presidential election, Trump called for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

For the "Islam is not a race" deflectors, at the end of the day, it matters not.

Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry, at the end of the day, it’s still discrimination.

Certainly, if you consider parsing suspects bigotry, it is. Of course we are bigoted toward potential law breakers. The left goes further and wants even to register lawful gun owners, or more. Bigotry is a fluid concept and is situationally defined. If there is an objection to avoiding a catastrophe by calling it bigotry, then some will need to get off the backs of lawful gun owners or be happy being bigoted.
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When campaigning for the 2016 presidential election, Trump called for "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on."

For the "Islam is not a race" deflectors, at the end of the day, it matters not.

Call it racism, call it prejudice, call it bigotry, at the end of the day, it’s still discrimination.

Great, so at least we know that Obama did the same as well. But discrimination is not what he's attempting to prove here.

He's trying to claim racism.
 
Why should anyone validate a child’s outlook on adult things? I mean it’s sometimes cute, but never useful.

The irony of a Trump voter making such a statement...
 
Your attempts at trolling really need work. They are very substandard. Actually kind of pathetic. You've got to disguise your true intentions better. Everyone knew who you were referring to right away. Needs a little more nuance. And try to be less partisan in your wording. We knew it was a wacky liberal post from the start. It just has the smell of TDS all over it.

I am not trolling. My point is that if anyone else had a history of racism and bigotry like Trump has, we would call that person a racist or bigot.
 
There's not really enough evidence to suggest he's a racist or not.

A racist is someone who believes that their race is superior to other races.

Yeah, I was pretty much thinking the same reading the OP, the element you mention is missing from the OP.

There's a difference between holding an uninformed opinion and racism, something many seem to be confused about, and cynically apply to opinions they don't like.

Further, I object to the unfounded 'transference', 'because I believe that XYZ is racist and you support XYZ that makes you a racist'. This is flawed logic at best, but clearly cynically designed for perceived political gains.

I say perceived, because how well did it work out the last time a candidate accused 1/2 the electorate as being deplorables?

For example, a white dude in South Africa was a White Supremacist, he treated black people fairly, he didn't beat them, didn't kill them, didn't demand they be deal with badly. He treated them like he might treat a dog. Most people believe that humans are superior to dogs. That doesn't mean they mistreat dogs. In fact some people treat dogs BETTER than they treat humans, even if they think dogs are lower than humans.

So, thinking that people are guilty even when they've been exonerated doesn't really prove that much. Saying Obama was born in Kenya doesn't really prove anything, other than he's a partisan doosh who'll believe anything people tell him.

It's difficult to prove someone is a racist. Saying the N word doesn't make someone a racist. Discriminating against people of a certain race doesn't make someone a racist. Because racism isn't about that, it's about believing your race is superior to theirs.
 
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I am not trolling. My point is that if anyone else had a history of racism and bigotry like Trump has, we would call that person a racist or bigot.

That's your opinion, which you're entitled to.
 
You have known your neighbor for decades. During this time, his business was successfully sued for discrimination. He ran an an ad in the local newspaper claiming some local black kids suspected of rape should get the death penalty, and still believes they are guilty despite them all being fully exonerated years later. He spent the Obama years claiming Obama was born in Kenya, and even ran ads in the local paper where he claimed to have evidence that Obama was not born in America - he never actually provided that evidence. He held a neighborhood party where he announced to everyone that Mexican immigrants were bringing drugs, were rapists, were not like us, but he went on to say that he assumed some of them were good people. He was sued, and claimed the judge in the case could not be fair to him because the judge was Hispanic. He retweeted white supremacist propaganda on numerous occasions, and though he has never openly praised white supremacist groups, the local white supremacists absolutely adore him. He holds neighborhood rallies where white nationalists distribute propaganda, but he never calls them out or asks them to leave. He has told minority Americans to go back to their countries, despite them being American citizens.

However, when a white supremacist went on a shooting rampage, he condemned white supremacists when you talked to him about it.

Given that, would you consider this hypothetical neighbor a racist or not?

The defensiveness to your thought experiment proves your point.

Time and time again, racists and people who defend racists refuse to address that issue of racism. They deny, deflect, play whataboutism games, attack the messenger--anything but actually admit to the truth.

That is why we cannot have a civil discussion about tRump's or anyone else's racism.
 
In the examples I gave in the opening post, which one did Trump not do?

He's no more racist than most people. We don't live in a utopia. Black politicians are often racist, as are most politicians, and everyday people. We all carry that baggage. So if you're looking for perfect people, I got news; there aren't any. Including you. And me.
 
Early 21st-Century democrats are like the ol' Chatty Cathy dolls; pull the string in their backs and out comes the same drivel. Mr. Trump dated at least one woman of color we know of, and who speaks highly of him, married two immigrants and I got guys like this telling me all day long DJT is a racist who hates immigrants. It is a little hard to take from democrats who, in the summer of 2015 officially endorsed the BLM org. whose war-chant is: What Do We Want? Dead Cops! When Do We Want Them? Now!
 
No, I don't think Trump is a racist.

The fact that the opening post has to point to a surprisingly few carefully cherry picked examples of Trump's alleged racism going back over 40 years (some of which down't even involve Donald himself like when his father's company was sued for discrimination) tells me that you're arguing backward from the conclusion and only interested in bias-confirming evidence to support it.
 
Black unemployment under Trump drops 2%, Blacks living in poverty under Trump drop 4%. If Trump is a racist, he sucks at it.
 
He's no more racist than most people. We don't live in a utopia. Black politicians are often racist, as are most politicians, and everyday people. We all carry that baggage. So if you're looking for perfect people, I got news; there aren't any. Including you. And me.

Dude you must run in some pretty racist circles if you Trump is no more racist than most people.
 
Dude you must run in some pretty racist circles if you Trump is no more racist than most people.

Yeah... I live in a very mixed urban neighborhood. Nobody takes this stuff as serious as you people. Talking about ***** grabbing wouldn't offend anybody. And racial banter is commonplace. Ain't no snowflakes here.
 
You have known your neighbor for decades. During this time, his business was successfully sued for discrimination. He ran an an ad in the local newspaper claiming some local black kids suspected of rape should get the death penalty, and still believes they are guilty despite them all being fully exonerated years later. He spent the Obama years claiming Obama was born in Kenya, and even ran ads in the local paper where he claimed to have evidence that Obama was not born in America - he never actually provided that evidence. He held a neighborhood party where he announced to everyone that Mexican immigrants were bringing drugs, were rapists, were not like us, but he went on to say that he assumed some of them were good people. He was sued, and claimed the judge in the case could not be fair to him because the judge was Hispanic. He retweeted white supremacist propaganda on numerous occasions, and though he has never openly praised white supremacist groups, the local white supremacists absolutely adore him. He holds neighborhood rallies where white nationalists distribute propaganda, but he never calls them out or asks them to leave. He has told minority Americans to go back to their countries, despite them being American citizens.

However, when a white supremacist went on a shooting rampage, he condemned white supremacists when you talked to him about it.

Given that, would you consider this hypothetical neighbor a racist or not?
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What did I mention, that you are rolling your eyes to, does not apply to Trump? Please point it out for everyone. You are shooting the messenger.

Alright, I'm going to point this out again.

You need to form a basis for calling such things racist. The house discrimination claim was against his business, and not against him personally. If you can find anything if those claims that can be found actually linking him to such accusations personally, then you might actually have something there.

You mighty actually need to supply events that are actually racist. Because even in the case of white nationalist liking him, which he has no control over. The likes of Richard Spencer has said that he agrees with democrats on more than a few policies. So by your logic, the democrats that he agrees with are now racist/white supremacist.
 
No, I don't think Trump is a racist.

The fact that the opening post has to point to a surprisingly few carefully cherry picked examples of Trump's alleged racism going back over 40 years (some of which down't even involve Donald himself like when his father's company was sued for discrimination) tells me that you're arguing backward from the conclusion and only interested in bias-confirming evidence to support it.

At least you were able to point that out. Everyone who is so vehemently anti-Trump, just says "It's racist" and either deflects, or runs away from the conversation.
 
Yeah... I live in a very mixed urban neighborhood. Nobody takes this stuff as serious as you people. Talking about ***** grabbing wouldn't offend anybody. And racial banter is commonplace. Ain't no snowflakes here.

A comical happenstance, is that I've never actually been called anything racist. Being a black man in Alabama, you'd think that was common place.

That was until I started supporting Trump, and then I was called some of the most racist things I've ever heard. By members of the democrats here in Alabama.

I've only been called a racist name from one person who's even remotely on the right, and that jackass was the tinfoil hat wearing type. Who still thinks the earth is flat.
 
What did I mention, that you are rolling your eyes to, does not apply to Trump? Please point it out for everyone. You are shooting the messenger.
:roll::roll: Of course messengers on the left want to spread false news for political purposes.
 
You have known your neighbor for decades. During this time, his business was successfully sued for discrimination. He ran an an ad in the local newspaper claiming some local black kids suspected of rape should get the death penalty, and still believes they are guilty despite them all being fully exonerated years later. He spent the Obama years claiming Obama was born in Kenya, and even ran ads in the local paper where he claimed to have evidence that Obama was not born in America - he never actually provided that evidence. He held a neighborhood party where he announced to everyone that Mexican immigrants were bringing drugs, were rapists, were not like us, but he went on to say that he assumed some of them were good people. He was sued, and claimed the judge in the case could not be fair to him because the judge was Hispanic. He retweeted white supremacist propaganda on numerous occasions, and though he has never openly praised white supremacist groups, the local white supremacists absolutely adore him. He holds neighborhood rallies where white nationalists distribute propaganda, but he never calls them out or asks them to leave. He has told minority Americans to go back to their countries, despite them being American citizens.

However, when a white supremacist went on a shooting rampage, he condemned white supremacists when you talked to him about it.

Given that, would you consider this hypothetical neighbor a racist or not?

Trump is a racist.
 
You have known your neighbor for decades. During this time, his business was successfully sued for discrimination. He ran an an ad in the local newspaper claiming some local black kids suspected of rape should get the death penalty, and still believes they are guilty despite them all being fully exonerated years later. He spent the Obama years claiming Obama was born in Kenya, and even ran ads in the local paper where he claimed to have evidence that Obama was not born in America - he never actually provided that evidence. He held a neighborhood party where he announced to everyone that Mexican immigrants were bringing drugs, were rapists, were not like us, but he went on to say that he assumed some of them were good people. He was sued, and claimed the judge in the case could not be fair to him because the judge was Hispanic. He retweeted white supremacist propaganda on numerous occasions, and though he has never openly praised white supremacist groups, the local white supremacists absolutely adore him. He holds neighborhood rallies where white nationalists distribute propaganda, but he never calls them out or asks them to leave. He has told minority Americans to go back to their countries, despite them being American citizens.

However, when a white supremacist went on a shooting rampage, he condemned white supremacists when you talked to him about it.

Given that, would you consider this hypothetical neighbor a racist or not?


Everyone is a little racist. Some are better at hiding it than others.
 
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