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What to do about the mass shootings in the US

What do we do about mass shootings in the US?


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Because they're politically biased and skewed to fit an agenda, not based in reality.

Now you are just playing partisan games with reality. I thought maybe you had something going. I guess not. "politically biased"? The CDC, FBI, NHTSA, and CRS are politically biased? Interesting.
 
Now you're just making **** up. None of those statements are true. More homicides by firearm have occurred than drunk driving fatalities every year of this decade, and firearm deaths exceed all traffic fatalities as well. Just plain facts, my friend.

You'll need to dice up that firearm death toll though.

Because it's not homicides that are being counted. It's all deaths, accidental, defensive, valid use of force, etc.

I know that suicides tend to be a massive chunk out of that number.
 
You'll need to dice up that firearm death toll though.

Because it's not homicides that are being counted. It's all deaths, accidental, defensive, valid use of force, etc.

I know that suicides tend to be a massive chunk out of that number.

Dead is dead
 
Should I be surprised? Wait, is it that you won't be gracious, or that you won't concede the facts?

Facts have a gun control bias to some people. Lol
 
This is a huge country with hundreds of millions of people and with porous borders and with a "unique" history and a "unique" population profile.

Therefore, it is downright silly to expect that such shootings can be substantially prevented in such a "unique" country.

Of course, there will be new gun laws. Of course, there will be more censorship on the Internet.

I hope that those measures will stop more such shootings.

But I am not optimistic.
 
That is a good analogy. Over 600,000 people die from cancer every year. And stupid people try to equate a few hundred people dying from mass shooting as being on the same level. Rather retarded, don't you think?

Lefties cannot use cancer as a weapon against the GOP and GOP voters
 
This is a huge country with hundreds of millions of people and with porous borders and with a "unique" history and a "unique" population profile.

Therefore, it is downright silly to expect that such shootings can be substantially prevented in such a "unique" country.

Of course, there will be new gun laws. Of course, there will be more censorship on the Internet.

I hope that those measures will stop more such shootings.

But I am not optimistic.

what new laws and censorship have any hope of stopping someone who already is facing obvious death or dying in prison?
 
This is a huge country with hundreds of millions of people and with porous borders and with a "unique" history and a "unique" population profile.

Therefore, it is downright silly to expect that such shootings can be substantially prevented in such a "unique" country.

Of course, there will be new gun laws. Of course, there will be more censorship on the Internet.

I hope that those measures will stop more such shootings.

But I am not optimistic.

The idea that nothing can be done so nothing should be tried is ridiculous.



Every nation is unique
 
Ok you are kidding.


Good. I get jokes

Actually MD was understating the "friendliness:.

It was more of a mentor - "help shape my destroy America views." type relationship.


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"After Ayers and Dohrn emerged from hiding, they became university professors in Chicago; Ayers specialized in education reform and served as an advisor to Chicago mayor Richard Daley. Through this work Ayers became acquainted with Barack Obama in 1995. Ayers hosted a meet-the-candidate gathering at his home as Barack Obama prepared for his initial run for the Illinois state senate. The two worked with the same charity and social service organizations in Chicago (particularly the Chicago Annenberg Challenge), and Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s re-election campaign for the Illinois state senate in 2001."
 
Actually MD was understating the "friendliness:.

It was more of a mentor - "help shape my destroy America views." type relationship.


Weather Underground Bombings

"After Ayers and Dohrn emerged from hiding, they became university professors in Chicago; Ayers specialized in education reform and served as an advisor to Chicago mayor Richard Daley. Through this work Ayers became acquainted with Barack Obama in 1995. Ayers hosted a meet-the-candidate gathering at his home as Barack Obama prepared for his initial run for the Illinois state senate. The two worked with the same charity and social service organizations in Chicago (particularly the Chicago Annenberg Challenge), and Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s re-election campaign for the Illinois state senate in 2001."

Uh.....so?
 
You'll need to dice up that firearm death toll though.

Because it's not homicides that are being counted. It's all deaths, accidental, defensive, valid use of force, etc.

I know that suicides tend to be a massive chunk out of that number.

the USA averages about 33K in gunshot deaths each year. Two thirds are suicides. of the homicides-over 80% involve either people who cannot own guns doing the killing or criminals or close associates of criminals, being killed. The number of deaths involving someone with no record, killing people with clean records, is less than a few thousand
 
the USA averages about 33K in gunshot deaths each year. Two thirds are suicides. of the homicides-over 80% involve either people who cannot own guns doing the killing or criminals or close associates of criminals, being killed. The number of deaths involving someone with no record, killing people with clean records, is less than a few thousand

Deflection from the topic doesn't help.

It isn't about stopping ALL firearm violence- it is about some yahoo deciding he has had enough of a certain group, race, sexual orientation, religion and decides to go kill a bunch of them. Weapon of choice not withstanding.

One step at a time and a step against hate fueled mass murders should be a goal for all. The first thing I would ask is not to support hate baiting a base to keep the 'faithful' cheering. I'm all for the 1st amendment however there are limits and the social media outlets- which have some of the richest owners in the free world- should spend a few more bucks on policing/reporting hate speech. I don't want to lock everyone up- lets try more access to therapy and treatment out clinic. Ronny was all for giving citizens the right to be crazy but now we reap the 'savings' his cutting government funding for mental health has caused.

This is up to all the American people, not just the south, or a lobby group. Mitch is in a tough spot, he leads the Senate but is just as beholden to his district as a first term congressman. I personally don't care for firearm restrictions or mag restrictions- however this is a democracy and it is up to everyone to decide what to do... :peace
 
They're not <"mAsS ShOoTeRs"> they're ****ing TERRORISTS.

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what do we do about mass shootings in the us?voters 107. You have already voted on this poll
>> ban us citizens from owning any firearm - confiscate those already purchased 43.74%
>> ban us citizens from owning certain kinds of firearms (explain) 1917.76%
>> don't ban firearms at all 2018.69%
>> institutionalize the violent and mentally ill 2422.43%
>> something else 6358.88%

>> kill the ****ing terrorists with ****ing guns goddammit!
 
<"hOw MaNy ChIldReN aHvE tO dIe BeFoRe YoU GiVe Up YoUr GuNz">

How many more children have to die before you pick one up to ****ing defend them you ideological-extremist selfish pricks
 
Paul Harvey was a news broadcaster who had his own radio show which ran from the 1950's through the 1990's...this is one of his essays that originally ran in 1964 but he updated several times...this particular one below ran in 1996...

“If I were the prince of darkness, I would want to engulf the whole world in darkness. I’d have a third of its real estate and four-fifths of its population, but I would not be happy until I had seized the ripest apple on the tree — thee. So, I would set about however necessary to take over the United States.

“I’d subvert the churches first, and I would begin with a campaign of whispers. With the wisdom of a serpent, I would whisper to you as I whispered to Eve: ‘Do as you please.’

“To the young, I would whisper that the Bible is a myth. I would convince the children that man created God instead of the other way around. I’d confide that what’s bad is good and what’s good is square. And the old, I would teach to pray after me, ‘Our Father, which art in Washington ...’

“Then, I’d get organized, I’d educate authors in how to make lurid literature exciting so that anything else would appear dull and uninteresting. I’d peddle narcotics to whom I could. I’d sell alcohol to ladies and gentlemen of distinction. I’d tranquilize the rest with pills.

“If I were the devil, I’d soon have families at war with themselves, churches at war with themselves and nations at war with themselves until each, in its turn, was consumed. And with promises of higher ratings, I’d have mesmerizing media fanning the flames.

“If I were the devil, I would encourage schools to refine young intellect but neglect to discipline emotions. I’d tell teachers to let those students run wild. And before you knew it, you’d have drug-sniffing dogs and metal detectors at every schoolhouse door. With a decade, I’d have prisons overflowing and judges promoting pornography. Soon, I would evict God from the courthouse and the schoolhouse and then from the houses of Congress. In his own churches, I would substitute psychology for religion and deify science. I’d lure priests and pastors into misusing boys and girls and church money.

“If I were the devil, I’d take from those who have and give to those who wanted until I had killed the incentive of the ambitious. What’ll you bet I couldn’t get whole states to promote gambling as the way to get rich?

“I’d convince the young that marriage is old-fashioned, that swinging is more fun and that what you see on television is the way to be. And thus, I could undress you in public and lure you into bed with diseases for which there are no cures.

Paul Harvey’s warning to America: If I were the devil | Columns | idahostatejournal.com[/QUOTE]

Thanks Elvira. Glad you brought this up again.
 
Its a bit of a complex issue. Banning guns isn't gonna do anything, as it would violate the 2nd amendment. Maybe diagnosing and institutionalizing mentally ill or unstable people?
 
Why institutionalize the mentally ill by default? I know paranoid schizophrenics who live decent lives outside of hospitals. Mental illnesses dont necessarily cause people to become mass murderers and mental illness is not a necessary condition in these shootings. Turn off the cop dramas.
 
Its a bit of a complex issue. Banning guns isn't gonna do anything, as it would violate the 2nd amendment. Maybe diagnosing and institutionalizing mentally ill or unstable people?

Mental illnesses happen all over the world yet many other countries dont have the degree of mass murder that we have. Mental illness encompasses a wide variety of disorders, plenty of them dont require institutionalization.
 
Mental illnesses happen all over the world yet other countries dont have the degree of mass murder that we have.

Ok. But the UK has a large amount of knife crimes. Should we ban knives there? Plus, we have far more guns than people here, so its not gonna do much.
 
They're not <"mAsS ShOoTeRs"> they're ****ing TERRORISTS.

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That... didnt stop these shooters from killing many people. Yeesh and people say im unhinged.
 
Ok. But the UK has a large amount of knife crimes. Should we ban knives there? Plus, we have far more guns than people here, so its not gonna do much.

Actually they dont
 
Ok. But the UK has a large amount of knife crimes. Should we ban knives there? Plus, we have far more guns than people here, so its not gonna do much.

How many knife crimes? How many people are killed with knives? Yes limiting certain firearms will help. Just blaming mental illness might look good on TV dramas and movies but thats not reality.
 
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