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What to do about the mass shootings in the US

What do we do about mass shootings in the US?

  • Ban US citizens from owning any firearm - confiscate those already purchased

    Votes: 7 5.7%

  • Ban US citizens from owning certain kinds of firearms (explain)

    Votes: 21 17.1%

  • Don't ban firearms at all

    Votes: 23 18.7%

  • Institutionalize the violent and mentally ill

    Votes: 29 23.6%

  • Something else

    Votes: 71 57.7%
  • Total voters
    123
vegas giants said:
Where does that result in low gun deaths?
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It means that if there are more law abiding citizens with concealed carry permit's then when some nut job decides to pull a stunt like this there's a greater chance that he will be shot before he was able to get more rounds off. Less rounds from the bad guy means less good people shot, get it?


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Maidenrules29 said:
It means that if there are more law abiding citizens with concealed carry permit's then when some nut job decides to pull a stunt like this there's a greater chance that he will be shot before he was able to get more rounds off. Less rounds from the bad guy means less good people shot, get it?


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So where is it working? We have more guns per capita than any country. By your theory we should be the safest
 
There are many types of weapons a person can use to defend himself.
A knife or a hand grenade for example.
However, while a knife is legal to keep and bear...a hand grenade is generally illegal to keep and bear hand grenades.
Not all ARMS are protected by the 2nd amendment
 
This same breakdown in the family is happening in Canada, Australia, Japan, Germany , England, France etc.

But they are not having mass shootings because their gun laws are a lot tougher than in the US
 
Maidenrules29 said:
It means that if there are more law abiding citizens with concealed carry permit's then when some nut job decides to pull a stunt like this there's a greater chance that he will be shot before he was able to get more rounds off. Less rounds from the bad guy means less good people shot, get it?


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Concealed carry is at an all time high in the US, and your theory ain't worked yet.
Spin again.
 
For some here may remember as a child we never had to lock our doors to our homes. But that has all changed now and we aren't going back to those days.
We never debated why our homes were being broken into and instead we developed better door locks and home security devices.

With Trump in office none of this madness is going to slow down.

You already see bulletproof children's backpacks on the market. The future is here.

Perhaps the more logical pathway is advanced metal detectors everywhere.
 
Crosscheck said:
For some here may remember as a child we never had to lock our doors to our homes. But that has all changed now and we aren't going back to those days.
We never debated why our homes were being broken into and instead we developed better door locks and home security devices.

With Trump in office none of this madness is going to slow down.

You already see bulletproof children's backpacks on the market. The future is here.

Perhaps the more logical pathway is advanced metal detectors everywhere.
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Not sure how old you are, but " as a child" wasn't just two years ago.
 
you must get a background check and a license ;limit magazine size no speed reload device on gun
 
vegas giants said:
Where does that result in low gun deaths?
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At our Christian school, for one example among tens of thousands. Sadly, not in Sandy Hook and gun-free zones and schools like that, and not in several gun-free churches over the years..
 
Naksithin said:
There are many types of weapons a person can use to defend himself.
A knife or a hand grenade for example.
However, while a knife is legal to keep and bear...a hand grenade is generally illegal to keep and bear hand grenades.
Not all ARMS are protected by the 2nd amendment
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Al Capone and his mob used all sorts of illegal guns. Thugs don't obey gun laws. We need to try something besides laws which don't work.
 
haymarket said:
Why do you need a semi automatic?

Why the large magazine?
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Where does the Constitution say if I don't need them I cannot have them? I think democrat commies think they have a right to make those decisions for Americans without their consent, but the democrats are wrong.
 
marke said:
How many of these mass shootings in the US occur in large democrat-controlled cities or in gun-free zones? I know large democrat-controlled cities have strict gun control laws already, which must not be working like the democrats had hoped.
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You can google your question, let us know.
 
vegas giants said:
So where is it working? We have more guns per capita than any country. By your theory we should be the safest
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Everywhere. The press just doesn’t cover it.

And like you said we have more law abiding gun owners with more guns (millions) and ammo (trillions) than anywhere else on the globe.

If we were the problem, you’d know.
 
ocean515 said:
In the UK, terrorists are stabbing people, or throwing acid in their faces. We know cars and trucks have been used in mass killings.

Some lunatic, white, brown, or green, hell bent on killing, will find a way to do so, whether by bomb, gun, or some other method.

Seems to me the thing that needs to be addressed is the why, not the how
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This is a very NRA-like-response. A do-nothing-about-the-problem response. Why won't gun owners support any measures to do something about the problem? This is terror. How is terror being attacked worldwide? There is a Global Terrorism Database. But don't expect the NRA to get behind something that will actually work.

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Global Terrorism Database
 
ttwtt78640 said:
Hmm... how is that plan working?
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Yeah, we won't know until all those things have been banned from sale. You gun guys better start thinking rationally...
 
Individual said:
Perhaps a mandatory death penalty for ALL those convicted as a result of being involved in a crime where a gun was employed, regardless of it being fired or not.
Allow a choice of being hung or shot to those convicted, with execution promptly carried out.
If that doesn't eliminate violent crime, I'm certain it would reduce it greatly and completely eliminate repeat offenders.
Law abiding gun owners should not have to give up their guns, and those who put them to misuse should instead give up their lives as a result.
The only question is, what would become the NEW weapon of choice for those who wish to commit crimes and remain alive?
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Martyrs won't care abut that: these are suicide missions.
 
jet57 said:
Yeah, we won't know until all those things have been banned from sale. You gun guys better start thinking rationally...
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Hmm... is that advocating stocking up to have one's personal arsenal legally "grandfathered in"?
 
marke said:
How many innocent Americans are killed each year on average with an assault weapon with a 30 round clip?

By comparison, killers used a rifle on 323 people, 2.5% of all murders. Assault rifle murders aren't split out, but it's safe to assume it's less than 323.

Good Question: How Many People Are Killed By Assault Rifles? – WCCO | CBS Minnesota

By comparison:

About 88,000 U.S. deaths each year traced to alcohol use, study says - Los Angeles Times
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Your denial embarrasses the country. I would hope you'd be more interested in the welfare of your countrymen over idiot assault weapons.
 
ocean515 said:
Guns have been around a long time in the US.

In fact, they were so important, it was the second issue the Founding Fathers addressed when forming the basic rules by which the United States of America was to operate.

Today, we have another young person going on a killing rampage. In Ohio, another shooter who has yet to be identified.

So logic would conclude, it's not the guns, it's the people who are doing the shooting.

Why?

We find a way to address that, we actually deal with the killing.
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We're in the very same situation we found ourselves in in Vietnam: who's the enemy?
 
marke said:
Even if the government found a way to force honest Americans to give up 300 million guns, the thugs on the street would still have guns supplied from the 300 million given up by honest Americans as well as those supplied by black market gun makers and worldwide gun traffickers. Forcing good Americans to give up their guns so bad Americans will be safer from resistance in criminal enterprises and assaults is not a good idea.
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"Honest Americans" is a BS denial phrase. These people pick these weapons in their planning stages for exactly the reasons I've stated on the pages for years: it's their capacity to do mass harm very quickly. Guns on the black market were once guns on legal market... get it now?
 
jet57 said:
We're in the very same situation we found ourselves in in Vietnam: who's the enemy?
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The governmental actors who’d see us give up our rights in the name of safety and give up our sovereignty in the name of humanity.
 
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