View Poll Results: What do we do about mass shootings in the US?

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  • Ban US citizens from owning any firearm - confiscate those already purchased

    7 5.69%
  • Ban US citizens from owning certain kinds of firearms (explain)

    21 17.07%
  • Don't ban firearms at all

    23 18.70%
  • Institutionalize the violent and mentally ill

    29 23.58%
  • Something else

    71 57.72%
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    There are too many things that our government could do that are blatantly not on the poll:

    Government could remove gun show loopholes;

    strengthen background checks on every firearm legally purchased to include any/all family members who might have access to said weapon to make sure felons and those who have documented mental health issues will not have access;

    loosen psychiatric ethics/laws to allow names of potentially violent individuals with severe mental health issues to be included on the "firearm prohibited" background check list;

    make it easier for family members to get meaningful mental health care for those who are a danger to themselves and others without having to hire a million lawyers and fight various gun/medical lobbyists in court;

    ban automatic assault weapons (along with bazookas, missiles, rpgs and other weaponry clearly intended for military use) by private citizens, and also ban any bump stocks/"fixes" that turn semi-automatic weapons into full-on automatics;

    require all gun owners to have a damned renewable license, similar to a driver's license, where they are forced to demonstrate their proficiency with and knowledge of the weapons they own.

    That's just common sense, off the top of my head. The choice is not, as too many here would like us to believe, "the Second Amendment either means citizens can own any weapon they wish, or the government will confiscate all our guns and leave us defenseless."

    This poll is useless lip service on a very sad day when more innocent people, and children, have been unnecessarily slaughtered... and will be ignored until the next slaughter, with more cloying lip service to that.
    The Sanford, Florida school shooter had been on the FBI watch list for months when he shot up his school. They already knew he was crazy and a threat, but they did not move in and stop him before he killed many kids in his school. Having all the background info on a mentally troubled thug does not mean law enforcement can stop the thug before he starts shooting people.

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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    We are finding a huge problem exists in America in which murderers who kill with guns never obey existing gun laws making it illegal for them to own a gun.
    Add Dayton Ohio to our list.
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Since 99% of mass shootings are perpetrated by males, ban males from owning firearms.
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    In the US, handguns are predominately used in murder cases, with 7,032 cases in 2017 alone, This is followed by firearms (type not stated) and knives or cutting instruments withn 3,096 and 1,591 cases respectively in 2017.
    • Murder - number of victims by weapons used | Statista

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    Why do you restrict gun deaths to only murders but for alcohol deaths you use a much wider criteria?
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    What laws in existence in Chicago, for example, banning thugs from owning guns, have been found to be effective? Leftists have not proved that thugs will give up guns if all Americans are disarmed, especially when thugs are not obeying sensible gun laws that are in existence already.
    The law must cover every state in the USA to be effective .
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by marke View Post
    Even if the government found a way to force honest Americans to give up 300 million guns, the thugs on the street would still have guns supplied from the 300 million given up by honest Americans as well as those supplied by black market gun makers and worldwide gun traffickers. Forcing good Americans to give up their guns so bad Americans will be safer from resistance in criminal enterprises and assaults is not a good idea.
    No need for do that. Just use sensible restrictions and limits and you can keep your handgun or rifle to enjoy your right to keep and bear arms.
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    There are too many things that our government could do that are blatantly not on the poll:

    Government could remove gun show loopholes;

    strengthen background checks on every firearm legally purchased to include any/all family members who might have access to said weapon to make sure felons and those who have documented mental health issues will not have access;

    loosen psychiatric ethics/laws to allow names of potentially violent individuals with severe mental health issues to be included on the "firearm prohibited" background check list;

    make it easier for family members to get meaningful mental health care for those who are a danger to themselves and others without having to hire a million lawyers and fight various gun/medical lobbyists in court;

    ban automatic assault weapons (along with bazookas, missiles, rpgs and other weaponry clearly intended for military use) by private citizens, and also ban any bump stocks/"fixes" that turn semi-automatic weapons into full-on automatics;

    require all gun owners to have a damned renewable license, similar to a driver's license, where they are forced to demonstrate their proficiency with and knowledge of the weapons they own.

    That's just common sense, off the top of my head. The choice is not, as too many here would like us to believe, "the Second Amendment either means citizens can own any weapon they wish, or the government will confiscate all our guns and leave us defenseless."

    This poll is useless lip service on a very sad day when more innocent people, and children, have been unnecessarily slaughtered... and will be ignored until the next slaughter, with more cloying lip service to that.
    In the UK, terrorists are stabbing people, or throwing acid in their faces. We know cars and trucks have been used in mass killings.

    Some lunatic, white, brown, or green, hell bent on killing, will find a way to do so, whether by bomb, gun, or some other method.

    Seems to me the thing that needs to be addressed is the why, not the how
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    It is clear that we need government to protect us from gun owners, not vice versa.

    This doesn’t mean, of course, that people can’t have guns. But this idea that any law about guns is unconstitutional has got to go.

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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    If WE didn't make them and sell them in the first place the bad guys wouldn't have them now would they
    The epic flaw of your argument is that if there is a demand there will always be a supply, when the soviet union fell massive amounts of arms dissapeared, most of which ended up on the black market and are still sold worldwide to any buyer with the money to buy them and determination o find them. There are also many full auto m-16's and even tow missiles circulating through central and south america due to america arming various rebels in the past, many of them ended up being sold to cartels in central and south america.

    There are also counterfeit guns from countries like austria and brazil and the phillipines, as well as full auto sub machine guns that can be cheaply made from off the shelf parts at home depot, so the supply exists worldwide and always will as long as there is a demand for them, people in the black market will supply them.
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    Re: What to do about the mass shootings in the US

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    My seven year old granddaughter told me they had a drill in her public school where the girls from her class took refuge in a girls bathroom for "a long time" and some of the girls argued that they should stand on the toilets to fool the gunman who might look in.

    When is enough enough?

    Look - to all the right wing whack jobs out there - you are NOT going to go to war against the government someday so stick your excuses about needing your big firepower where the sun does not shine.


    I for one have had it and all the lame excuses don't hold water anymore.
    Remember this?

    Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    There is a war for the soul of this country. And your side - the right wing conservative side - is going to lose.

    I do not believe in being a good little liberal and bringing a pillow to a gun fight. I believe in bringing an uzi. Correct that - I believe in bring a whole truckload of freaking uzis.
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