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Oh COME ON, you know you have to LAUGH HARD when someone says "left-libertarian".
First, it is an endangered species, if for no other reason than YOUR reason! :lamo
Actually, libertarians are mostly of the left in every country except the United States. But if you want to take an Ameri-centric bias on this that is fine.
Most people "around here" (the entire United States!) think of libertarians as right wing, because the ratio of RW-LP to LW-LP is about 300:1 and LW-LP's generally agree with a lot of the social democrat and progressive platforms, just in a more "smaller government" way of thinking.
I am well aware left-libertarians are a rare breed in the USA. And yes, they are more open to social programs but on a decentralized level. The dogmatic positions of right-libertarians and their idolizing of Mises and Hayek were a turn off for me.
Example: I used to think Penn Gillette was some kind of hardcore RW-LP, but it is evident that he's closer to the center or even mildly LW Libertarian.
He has expressed a lot of flexibility but he backs up his reasoning rather well.
I could be wrong, though. What is your take on Gillette.
I used to watch Bulls*** and listen to Penn's podcast. Yeah, I would agree he has become less of a hard-right libertarian over the years. I heard a friend say he expressed some regret on a couple of their B.S. episodes, particularly the one where they defend Wal-Mart. I know when I was listening to his podcast during the election run of 2016 he said he'd reluctantly place a Clinton bumper sticker on his car if Trump won the GOP primary (and he did).
Anyway, I am not mocking LW-LP, just saying there are very few of you in comparison to your counterparts on the Right side of libertarianism.
Not denying it when it comes to mainstream politics, but if you pay attention to the leans of a lot of posters on DP you would notice quite a few have their lean as left-libertarian. Hey, at least I didn't complain about there not being an option for geo-mutualism. :mrgreen: