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Will Epstein flip??

Will Epstein flip??

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Without knowing what the FBI found in his separate mansions, we don't even know if it's going to be necessary for Epstein to flip at all. If he has kept a record of names, or if the FBI uncovers where his sources of income have been coming from, there's going to be a schitstorm because his income hasn't come from him being a smart hedge-fund guy like Bernie Madoff. His income has come from blackmailing corporate degenerates, high profile politicians and public figures that paid him hush money to stop him from telling their dirty little secrets.
 
JANFU said:
As are you
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I could care less. My entertainment is watching fools get all hot and bothered.

Selective outrage as 200k children go missing in this nation every year. From you, not a peep of outrage.
 
HumblePi said:
Without knowing what the FBI found in his separate mansions, we don't even know if it's going to be necessary for Epstein to flip at all. If he has kept a record of names, or if the FBI uncovers where his sources of income have been coming from, there's going to be a schitstorm because his income hasn't come from him being a smart hedge-fund guy like Bernie Madoff. His income has come from blackmailing corporate degenerates, high profile politicians and public figures that paid him hush money to stop him from telling their dirty little secrets.
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Epstein's wealth seems to have been acquired through only one source; billionaire retail owner Les Wexner. Wexner is the octogenarian owner of Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie and Fitch, and others. Wexner transferred ownership of his Manhattan mansion (the largest single house in the borough) to Epstein. If we're going to start a comprehensive investigation into who was boinking kids at Epstein's residences, Wexner is the first place I'd start.
 
truthatallcost said:
Epstein's wealth seems to have been acquired through only one source; billionaire retail owner Les Wexner. Wexner is the octogenarian owner of Victoria's Secret, Abercrombie and Fitch, and others. Wexner transferred ownership of his Manhattan mansion (the largest single house in the borough) to Epstein. If we're going to start a comprehensive investigation into who was boinking kids at Epstein's residences, Wexner is the first place I'd start.
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I'm sure that when it all comes out, Les Wexner will be one of many high powered men along with presidents and heads of state that are involved in this sex scandal.

From Bloomberg:

"The much-buzzed about 71st Street Manhattan mansion transfer took place after this. Wexner had paid about $13 million for it in 1989 and then remodeled it. In 1998, he sold it to Epstein’s NES LLC, according to a person familiar with the matter. There’s no documenting of an ownership change until the deed transfer in 2011, and those records show that Epstein’s Maple Inc. acquired the place for $0 and that Epstein signed for both sides of the transaction.

Broker Dolly Lenz, who worked in the 1990s for the firm handling a possible sale of the mansion, said there were prospective buyers lined up when, suddenly, it was pulled off the market. Wexner was “giving it to his associate Jeffrey Epstein,” Lenz said."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-13/a-billionaire-and-a-sex-offender-the-wexner-and-epstein-ties via @business
 
If he want's to live, then most likely not. We've heard tons of things about the man over the years. But it's just impossible to actually know who all was involved with him, and just what might happen if he even comes close to letting his tongue slip.
 
Top Cat said:
Your messiah will be on that list too.
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Gulfman isn't a democrat sycophant. So claiming that your lords as his own, is probably one of the weakest attacks that you can muster right now.
 
HumblePi said:
I'm sure that when it all comes out, Les Wexner will be one of many high powered men along with presidents and heads of state that are involved in this sex scandal.

From Bloomberg:

"The much-buzzed about 71st Street Manhattan mansion transfer took place after this. Wexner had paid about $13 million for it in 1989 and then remodeled it. In 1998, he sold it to Epstein’s NES LLC, according to a person familiar with the matter. There’s no documenting of an ownership change until the deed transfer in 2011, and those records show that Epstein’s Maple Inc. acquired the place for $0 and that Epstein signed for both sides of the transaction.

Broker Dolly Lenz, who worked in the 1990s for the firm handling a possible sale of the mansion, said there were prospective buyers lined up when, suddenly, it was pulled off the market. Wexner was “giving it to his associate Jeffrey Epstein,” Lenz said."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-13/a-billionaire-and-a-sex-offender-the-wexner-and-epstein-ties via @business
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Suspect #2, and someone who literally makes me cringe every time I see him appear on Fox News- the guy who bragged about getting Epstein off, Alan Dershowitz.

Attorney Alan Dershowitz and the Jeffrey Epstein Case

Dershowitz' first wife mysteriously, and conveniently wound up falling off the Brooklyn bridge 45 years ago, after Dershowitz used his background in law to obtain custody of their children. Rumor has it that wife #1 found out about Alan's peccadilloes, and refused to stay married to him. She's been written out of Dersh's life story.

Dershowitz is a serial liar, that much I can prove. Consider these two very different versions of his friendship with Epstein, one from 2000, the other from this year.

2019 Dersh-
“He was an acquaintance,” he said. “In retrospect, I wish I hadn’t taken the case, but I didn’t see a problem with taking the case. We didn’t have a close, personal relationship.”

2000 Dersh

He told Vanity Fair that he shared manuscripts of his books with Epstein before they were published and swore that his money was irrelevant. “I would be as interested in him as a friend if we had hamburgers on the boardwalk in Coney Island and talked about his ideas,” he told the magazine.

Attorney Alan Dershowitz and the Jeffrey Epstein Case
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truthatallcost said:
Suspect #2, and someone who literally makes me cringe every time I see him appear on Fox News- the guy who bragged about getting Epstein off, Alan Dershowitz.

Attorney Alan Dershowitz and the Jeffrey Epstein Case

Dershowitz' first wife mysteriously, and conveniently wound up falling off the Brooklyn bridge 45 years ago, after Dershowitz used his background in law to obtain custody of their children. Rumor has it that wife #1 found out about Alan's peccadilloes, and refused to stay married to him. She's been written out of Dersh's life story.

Dershowitz is a serial liar, that much I can prove. Consider these two very different versions of his friendship with Epstein, one from 2000, the other from this year.
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Since the O.J. trial, I knew that Alan Derschowitz was trash. He's a fame-seeking double-talking lowlife. If Alan Derschowitz would argue in defense of a murderer then defending a sexual predator and rapist is almost second worst thing he could do. Very suiting that he's a regular paid commentator for Fox Network. Ken Starr is also a paid commentator for Fox and no one on the network has asked Ken Starr anything about his sex predator client.
 
Oborosen said:
Gulfman isn't a democrat sycophant. So claiming that your lords as his own, is probably one of the weakest attacks that you can muster right now.
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You're not very bright are you?
 
HumblePi said:
I'm sure that when it all comes out, Les Wexner will be one of many high powered men along with presidents and heads of state that are involved in this sex scandal.

From Bloomberg:

"The much-buzzed about 71st Street Manhattan mansion transfer took place after this. Wexner had paid about $13 million for it in 1989 and then remodeled it. In 1998, he sold it to Epstein’s NES LLC, according to a person familiar with the matter. There’s no documenting of an ownership change until the deed transfer in 2011, and those records show that Epstein’s Maple Inc. acquired the place for $0 and that Epstein signed for both sides of the transaction.

Broker Dolly Lenz, who worked in the 1990s for the firm handling a possible sale of the mansion, said there were prospective buyers lined up when, suddenly, it was pulled off the market. Wexner was “giving it to his associate Jeffrey Epstein,” Lenz said."

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-07-13/a-billionaire-and-a-sex-offender-the-wexner-and-epstein-ties via @business
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100% agreed.

Some seriously sketchy **** is going on here and I'm almost certain Epstein has Les by the blackmail balls.
 
apdst said:
LOL...the only reason y'all even care, is because you think it might take Trump down.
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I don't care if it takes Trump, Obama, Britney Spears and Tom Brady all down. Child molesters need to be in prison. Regardless of party or politics. Not everyone excuses molestation just because of politics. Others do. Repeatedly and often and you people are disgusting.
 
Epstein is a Democrat. He has given a lot of money to Democrat political candidates and causes. The main stream media, which is the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, has given Epstein cover for years, since he was one of their card carrying money cows. Very powerful Democrats got Epstein off, easy, in Florida the last time.

It would be interesting if Epstein will name all the Democrats in politics, business and media who have accepted donations and party favors. One could research who he gave campaign donations, since this is part of public record.

The odds are Epstein is using his guest list of shady Democrat guests, to leverage the legal system, and as an insurance policy, so guilty Democrats will not try to take out in prison and call it suicide.

Fake news is trying to connect Epstein to Trump. This is a smoke screen to hide the fact Epstein was a card carrying Democrat donor and enabler to the rich and powerful perverts in the Democrat party. These party favors were not just for Democrat men.
 
apdst said:
He isn't going to do any time. He'll get probation.
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Since he is likely affiliated with covert Intelligence, either the Mossad or CIA or both, much of the evidence will be classified and under lock and key. It will be difficult to try him and even more difficult to reveal details. This will be another Mena, Arkansas, 9-11, Kennedy assassination, type show and nothing will be revealed. That's my opinion.
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Surrealistik said:
100% agreed.

Some seriously sketchy **** is going on here and I'm almost certain Epstein has Les by the blackmail balls.
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I'm going to get ahead of the Trump supporters here because when the names of clients on Epstein's 'little black book' start hitting the public, exposing high profile democrats in addition to republicans, I'll be the first to condemn them. This scandal is so vile and disgusting that no matter who it is, I'll be happy to see them in handcuffs and locked up. This should transcend politics and obliterate partisan party lines.
 
I do not blame Mr. E. if he flips in order to get a less than life sentence.

In this life, there are very few people who are willing to fall on the sword for their "friends."

Of course, the prosecutors are throwing the book at Mr. E. as an object lesson to other people not to do what he did.

Some countries feel that our laws regarding sexual offenses are too harsh, but there is little likelihood of reform because of the #MeToo Movement. No doubt there are people who feel that Mr. E. is worse than a murderer. That is why the media are going to give massive coverage to the trial -- if there is one.
 
wellwisher said:
Epstein is a Democrat. He has given a lot of money to Democrat political candidates and causes. The main stream media, which is the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, has given Epstein cover for years, since he was one of their card carrying money cows. Very powerful Democrats got Epstein off, easy, in Florida the last time.

It would be interesting if Epstein will name all the Democrats in politics, business and media who have accepted donations and party favors. One could research who he gave campaign donations, since this is part of public record.

The odds are Epstein is using his guest list of shady Democrat guests, to leverage the legal system, and as an insurance policy, so guilty Democrats will not try to take out in prison and call it suicide.

Fake news is trying to connect Epstein to Trump. This is a smoke screen to hide the fact Epstein was a card carrying Democrat donor and enabler to the rich and powerful perverts in the Democrat party. These party favors were not just for Democrat men.
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Keep your orgasmic fantasies to yourself. This has nothing to do with who he donated to. If they were going to look at every Democrat who donated tons of money to Democratic candidates, your crush Trump would be right in the thick of things.
 
JANFU said:
Will Epstein flip??

I say he will. Facing the rest of his life in prison, knowing that parole will never be approved

And the dirt will fly.
We will finally hear who else was aware/participated in his depravity

Listings of some of his friends/contact etc
Jeffrey Epstein’s Political Connections: A Guide – Rolling Stone

Here are all the famous people Jeffrey Epstein is connected to - Business Insider
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I don't see him flipping. He would have to offer something of tangible evidence in the flip, like pictures of someone with a young girl.

I don't care what he does, as long as he spends the rest of his life in prison.
 
Cardinal said:
What I predict is that nobody will be implicated criminally, but that the people he's associated with will look really, really awful. I predict that one of these people will be Trump, and that he'll survive because scandal has been attached to him his whole life and he's just used to it. And if there's one thing Trump has demonstrated, it's that you can get about as far as you like by having no shame and always having somebody nearby to throw under a bus as needed. Also, populism raised him to power so he's immune to scandal in that regard.

One of the people who will also look awful may well indeed be Bill Clinton, and that will basically kill future book deals and speaking engagements.
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I agree with everything except the idea that it will hurt the ability of Clinton to get book deals or speaking engagements.
 
DaveFagan said:
Since he is likely affiliated with covert Intelligence, either the Mossad or CIA or both, much of the evidence will be classified and under lock and key. It will be difficult to try him and even more difficult to reveal details. This will be another Mena, Arkansas, 9-11, Kennedy assassination, type show and nothing will be revealed. That's my opinion.
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The CIA is EVERYWHERE!!!!

Oh, spoiler alert.... Oswald killed Kennedy. Mohammed Atta and 18 of his BFFs did 9/11.
 
tres borrachos said:
I don't see him flipping. He would have to offer something of tangible evidence in the flip, like pictures of someone with a young girl.

I don't care what he does, as long as he spends the rest of his life in prison.
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I expect he has pictures of people with young girls. A private island, in a house he owns, I expect every room had hidden camera's and that he was blackmailing a bunch of people.
 
wellwisher said:
Epstein is a Democrat. He has given a lot of money to Democrat political candidates and causes. The main stream media, which is the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, has given Epstein cover for years, since he was one of their card carrying money cows. Very powerful Democrats got Epstein off, easy, in Florida the last time.

It would be interesting if Epstein will name all the Democrats in politics, business and media who have accepted donations and party favors. One could research who he gave campaign donations, since this is part of public record.

The odds are Epstein is using his guest list of shady Democrat guests, to leverage the legal system, and as an insurance policy, so guilty Democrats will not try to take out in prison and call it suicide.

Fake news is trying to connect Epstein to Trump. This is a smoke screen to hide the fact Epstein was a card carrying Democrat donor and enabler to the rich and powerful perverts in the Democrat party. These party favors were not just for Democrat men.
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Gee, was Trump not a democrat before?
 
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