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The 2021 Federal Government

House, Senate, White House

  • Democrat, Democrat, Democrat

    Votes: 7 15.9%

  • Democrat, Democrat, Republican

    Votes: 2 4.5%

  • Democrat, Republican, Democrat

    Votes: 14 31.8%

  • Democrat, Republican, Republican

    Votes: 9 20.5%

  • Republican, Democrat, Democrat

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Republican, Democrat, Republican

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Republican, Republican, Democrat

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Republican, Republican, Republican

    Votes: 6 13.6%

  • See the purple bunny rabbits

    Votes: 6 13.6%
  • Total voters
    44
  • Poll closed .
Beowulf said:
Okay, I guess you're right. Haymarket opposes social security. There you go.
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Again I will repeat: Your claim means nothing without a citation, because I don't believe that you are telling the truth. :)
 
Phys251 said:
Again I will repeat: Your claim means nothing without a citation, because I don't believe that you are telling the truth. :)
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Agreed. So we can agree that Haymarket opposes social security. Right, @Haymarket? You oppose social security?
 
Phys251 said:
And there it is. Having lost the argument, you begin the juvenile finger-pointing games. All too easy. :cool:
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Phys251 said:
Again I will repeat: Your claim means nothing without a citation, because I don't believe that you are telling the truth. :)
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So @Haymarket, do you oppose social security? Medicare? The Federal Reserve? Fiat money? and Union Laws?
 
Jay59 said:
How will it beak down. The order is House, Senate, White House.
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I believe the criminals in the democrat party will win everything in 2020, not because that is what the majority of Americans want, but because the crooks know how to illegally turn an election in their favor.
 
Beowulf said:
Because he is advocating the initiation of violence against their person, property, and liberty.
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Never did and it is senseless to try and twist it that way - and this has already been pointed out to you. You are really failing here when you have to warp, pervert and distort what somebody actually says in favor of a frankenstein monster version to fit your own sad narrative.

You should be ashamed of your tactics.
 
marke said:
I believe the criminals in the democrat party will win everything in 2020, not because that is what the majority of Americans want, but because the crooks know how to illegally turn an election in their favor.
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Where do you get.this 8nformation?
 
rickc said:
Where do you get.this 8nformation?
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We saw what the black democrat woman did in Florida, refusing to turn in elections returns on time while fiddling with the results as they constantly changed over several days in violation of federal election laws. And that is just one example of many across the nation in the last several years. Voter fraud is not only real, but getting worse.
 
haymarket said:
Never did and it is senseless to try and twist it that way - and this has already been pointed out to you. You are really failing here when you have to warp, pervert and distort what somebody actually says in favor of a frankenstein monster version to fit your own sad narrative.

You should be ashamed of your tactics.
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So you don't support, say, the social security act?
 
Beowulf said:
So you don't support, say, the social security act?
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What does Social Security have to do with the topic of this thread or your false attacks on me?
 
haymarket said:
What does Social Security have to do with the topic of this thread or your false attacks on me?
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The social security act is simply an example of your advocating the initiation of violence against the person, property, and liberty of your fellow Americans. Those you profess to love so much. You advocate the social security act, correct?
 
I think Democratic House, Republican Senate, Democratic White House is the most likely outcome, but it's a wild-ass guess heavily biased by what I want to happen at this point. The large field of Democratic presidential candidates has things too uncertain to make any really accurate guesses at this point.
 
Beowulf said:
The social security act is simply an example of your advocating the initiation of violence against the person, property, and liberty of your fellow Americans. Those you profess to love so much. You advocate the social security act, correct?
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I have no idea what political extremism you are attempting to foist here as advocating violence. The Social Security Act is not violence.
 
haymarket said:
I have no idea what political extremism you are attempting to foist here as advocating violence. The Social Security Act is not violence.
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So it's completely voluntary?
 
Beowulf said:
So it's completely voluntary?
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Every person here has a choice to make and that choice is voluntary: as an adult citizen, do I live here in the United States and submit myself to the duly passed laws of the nation - OR - do I disobey the laws of the nation knowing I could suffer the penalties - OR - will I deny the United States government my participation and consent as a citizen by withdrawing from the authority of the USA and going elsewhere because I cannot participate in something I object to.

YES - those choices are voluntary.
 
haymarket said:
Every person here has a choice to make and that choice is voluntary: as an adult citizen, do I live here in the United States and submit myself to the duly passed laws of the nation - OR - do I disobey the laws of the nation knowing I could suffer the penalties - OR - will I deny the United States government my participation and consent as a citizen by withdrawing from the authority of the USA and going elsewhere because I cannot participate in something I object to.

YES - those choices are voluntary.
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Yeah, that what I was talking about when I observed that you advocate the initiation of violence against their person, property, and liberty.
 
Beowulf said:
Yeah, that what I was talking about when I observed that you advocate the initiation of violence against their person, property, and liberty.
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What is this VOILENCE you keep floating in your posts? Social Security is NOT VIOLENCE.
 
haymarket said:
What point do you believe the quotation from me establishes for you?
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He asked for an email where you advocated violence. I provided one.

Why are you asking? This was all very up front.
 
Jay59 said:
He asked for an email where you advocated violence. I provided one.

Why are you asking? This was all very up front.
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Where in that post did I advocate violence. I simply commented that sometimes an authoritarian gets what they deserve. I was not alive during the career of Mussolini so I never advocated what happened to him. When I talk about Trump as a wanna-be authoritarian, I have never advocated violence be done upon him but always say he must be roped ASAP by any legal means necessary.

There is a practical difference in accepting the events of history and advocating for the events of the future.

It is sad that you do not see that difference in your zeal to attack me.
 
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