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Poll: Epstein case accmplices

Did Clinton or Trump molest girls that Epstein provided?


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So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

I'm kicking off with number five: either or both knew. Trump has said as much ("some of the girls were on the younger side") and Clinton can't not have heard the same rumors. I guess there's a sort of don't ask, don't tell policy among the rich and powerful.

We're going to know in the trial anyway. This is more of a panic-o-meter.
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

I tried to make a similar poll, doesn't seem like DP wants the mark.
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

I don't know if we can say that either Clinton or Trump actually partook in the same actions as Epstein. I believe that both knew what he was doing, however.

And neither Trump nor Clinton will see any repercussions from this.
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

Rather than yet another silly Clinton attack: nobody will ever know and no victims have come forward. How about just concentrating on the fact that Epstein is a child trafficker who knows a lot of people and will probably skip.
 
Rather than yet another silly Clinton attack: nobody will ever know and no victims have come forward. How about just concentrating on the fact that Epstein is a child trafficker who knows a lot of people and will probably skip.

He's going down. Hard. Lots of victims have come forward and having gone down once before and been given a yuge break no court in the country will cut him any slack this time.
 
Rather than yet another silly Clinton attack: nobody will ever know and no victims have come forward. How about just concentrating on the fact that Epstein is a child trafficker who knows a lot of people and will probably skip.

I dunno if he can wriggle out this time. It's not 2008 and he doesn't have Jim* Acosta. It's post Me Too and Weinstein was just as rich and connected.

*correction, Alex Acosta
 
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I don't know if we can say that either Clinton or Trump actually partook in the same actions as Epstein. I believe that both knew what he was doing, however.

And neither Trump nor Clinton will see any repercussions from this.


Well just having heard rumors isn't a crime, even if you believe them. Clinton won't face any repercussions because there are none to be had - he's out of politics anyway.

Trump won't suffer much because his base won't believe it, won't care, will give him another Mulligan and can rest assured his surrogates will protect him. Again the only risk from having been in the loop is to his political reputation and that's already shot to hell among all but his base. He'll bottom out at 30% no matter what now.

Even if the trial produces witnesses or evidence that one or another did commit crimes with Epstein, isn't it outside the statute of limitations? In any case again, Trump's fan base will just call it 'fake news' if he's accused.
 
We don't know for a fact that either of them were in on it, but there's no way in hell that either of them didn't know about it. Trump himself has alluded to Epstein being into "very young girls," and while I don't have a specific quote at hand, I would be surprised if Bill "I'd bang that mummy" Clinton hasn't said something pervy related to this subject.
 
I dunno if he can wriggle out this time. It's not 2008 and he doesn't have Jim Acosta. It's post Me Too and Weinstein was just as rich and connected.

I think you mean Alex Acosta. Jim is the CNN guy.
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

Let me know when you have something more than rumors. Until then, there's no way to answer your poll.
 
We don't know for a fact that either of them were in on it, but there's no way in hell that either of them didn't know about it. Trump himself has alluded to Epstein being into "very young girls," and while I don't have a specific quote at hand, I would be surprised if Bill "I'd bang that mummy" Clinton hasn't said something pervy related to this subject.

Just a point of context to the “young girls” comment. Trump was in his 50s when he said that. Isn’t it at all plausible he was referring to women in their 20s or 30s? I’m in my 50s now and I certainly consider 20 year old women to be very young.
 
Let me know when you have something more than rumors. Until then, there's no way to answer your poll.

Jesus Christ, the whole point of the poll is we have nothing yet. It specifically asks for opinions in the absence of facts. I am not making any accusations here. Just inviting everyone to openly have an honest guess.

If the poll had mentioned only Clinton and not Trump, I probably wouldn't be responding to this post am I right? It's harmless speculation, enjoy the ride for once.
 
Just a point of context to the “young girls” comment. Trump was in his 50s when he said that. Isn’t it at all plausible he was referring to women in their 20s or 30s? I’m in my 50s now and I certainly consider 20 year old women to be very young.

You beat me to it. I am in my fifties as well and, unfortunately, women in there 20's and 30's are very young girls. My daughter is 21 and her girl friends are all that age or older. They are women, but to me they are kids.
 
I dunno if he can wriggle out this time. It's not 2008 and he doesn't have Jim* Acosta. It's post Me Too and Weinstein was just as rich and connected.

*correction, Alex Acosta

If Epstein doesn't skip, then he'll do life for sure. I'd like to see him remanded to Rikers Island until sentencing.
 
He's going down. Hard. Lots of victims have come forward and having gone down once before and been given a yuge break no court in the country will cut him any slack this time.

Rumor is that he's gonna rat some people out. I hope he does, and then he'll die in prison...
 
Just a point of context to the “young girls” comment. Trump was in his 50s when he said that. Isn’t it at all plausible he was referring to women in their 20s or 30s? I’m in my 50s now and I certainly consider 20 year old women to be very young.

It could, but in this case I doubt it. It seems that Epstein's proclivities were well known in fact, and that was Donald's PC way of saying Epstein is a pedo.
 
So far I've seen that Bill Clinton rode on Rapesteins plane.

Trump OTOH:

A suit alleging that Trump knowingly raped a 13-year-old in Epstein's Manhattan residence was filed in 2016, but was then voluntarily dismissed by the anonymous Jane Doe accuser.

The complaint, brought against Trump and Epstein, alleges that the victim attended multiple parties at Epstein's residence in the summer of 1994 that Trump also attended. An anonymous witness claimed to be an employee of Epstein.

The plaintiff alleged that she "was enticed by promises of money and a modeling career to attend a series of parties, with other similarly situated minor females" at Epstein's Manhattan residence. Trump was said to have attended at least four of the same parties, and to have known the plaintiff was 13-years-old, since he knew her for the previous 7 years, too.

The document alleges that Trump repeatedly initiated sexual contact with the plaintiff, then on the fourth encounter at one of Epstein's parties, tied her to a bed, exposed himself, and "forcibly raped" her.

"During the course of this savage sexual attack, Plaintiff loudly pleaded with Defendant Trump to stop but with no effect," the document alleges. "Defendant Trump responded to Plaintiff's pleas by violently striking Plaintiff in the face with his open hand and screaming that he would do whatever he wanted."

The plaintiff further alleged that Epstein raped her after Trump, and that both told her she and her family would be killed if she ever revealed the details of what had happened. Trump and Epstein denied the accusations. One attorney said the unnamed accuser backed out due to threats.

But by all means if Bill Clinton did anything wrong, lock him up too.
 
Just a point of context to the “young girls” comment. Trump was in his 50s when he said that. Isn’t it at all plausible he was referring to women in their 20s or 30s? I’m in my 50s now and I certainly consider 20 year old women to be very young.

It would be quite plausible that Trump mean adult women, were it not for allegations of Trump of walking in on underage girls deliberately. Specifically, alleged by Trump himself, as well as by numerous models who were there when Trump was doing this, although there was exactly one girl that denied the claims.

And either way, both men are notorious horn-dogs with a history of unsavory allegations and rumors, who had extensive connections to a man guilty of countless cases of sex trafficking and child abuse. Aren't you at least the least bit concerned by Trump's connections to him? I'd certainly bet that you buy into the Clinton concerns.
 
Rumor is that he's gonna rat some people out. I hope he does, and then he'll die in prison...

It's gonna be revolting to watch, the pervs pointing fingers trying for deals.
 
Damn Clinton for being such a scumdog that Democrats felt compelled to adopt the mantra that someone can be a bad man and a good president. That paved the way for the current scumdog who is both a bad man and a bad president, but because of Clinton Trump supporters find it easy to chant the mantra which Democrats used in the 80's. As if somehow Trump being a horror of a human being is proof that he's a good president.

Can't wait for all the cases pending against Trump, his family and his associates to finally catch up with him in court.
 
Jesus Christ, the whole point of the poll is we have nothing yet. It specifically asks for opinions in the absence of facts. I am not making any accusations here. Just inviting everyone to openly have an honest guess.

If the poll had mentioned only Clinton and not Trump, I probably wouldn't be responding to this post am I right? It's harmless speculation, enjoy the ride for once.

Well, I know how y'all love to spout off with opinion that have no basis in fact. I'm not one of you.

So yeah...let me know when you have something more than rumors. That's when I'll present my opinion.
 
So there are rumors and reports left and right and old pictures going back decades of powerful people smiling and shaking hands with Epstein. The right are gleefully predicting Clinton will finally get his comeuppance and the Left's media are are pointing fingers at Trump.

So a simple poll to gauge the DP community's opinion...

Don't we have better things to do than indulge in salacious speculation? There are enough things woefully askew without having to spend our brain cells speculating.
 
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