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Are the ICE border detention centers "concentration camps"?

Are ICE detention centers concentration camps?

  • Yes, they have always been

    Votes: 12 16.4%

  • Yes, but only since Trump became President

    Votes: 9 12.3%

  • Yes, but only when Obama was President

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • No, they aren't comparable whatsoever to Nazi concentration camps

    Votes: 52 71.2%
  • Total voters
    73
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When illegal aliens choose to cross the border they are housed in ICE detention centers at the border. Would you call these centers "concentration camps"?
 
Josie said:
When illegal aliens choose to cross the border they are housed in ICE detention centers at the border. Would you call these centers "concentration camps"?
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Short answer...no. :no:
 
Luther!
 
Definitely since Trump has been in office. We saw the pictures of the little children wrapped in aluminum foil and being prepped for baking. The worst part - and nobody is talking about it - is that after they cook the kids they feed them to the adults!

If you don't believe me, there's even an immigrant cook book being sold! - The Immigrant Cookbook: Recipes That Make America Great
 
When they start gassing and cremating them yes.But until then they are like country clubs.
 
gulfman said:
When they start gassing and cremating them yes.But until then they are like country clubs.
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Perhaps you are referring to extermination camps?
 
Are they concentration camps? No
These centers are to house and detain until a solution can be found. Those who come to the border know the risks. They can leave to the south.
 
Lovebug said:
Are they concentration camps? No
These centers are to house and detain until a solution can be found. Those who come to the border know the risks. They can leave to the south.
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A concentration camp is a facility to keep large groups of people in detention who haven't been charged and convicted of a crime.
 
gulfman said:
When they start gassing and cremating them yes.But until then they are like country clubs.
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And you continue to outdo yourself in the stupidity department.
 
Grand Mal said:
A concentration camp is a facility to keep large groups of people in detention who haven't been charged and convicted of a crime.
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I'll bet the Jews getting off the train at Auschwitz couldn't wait to get in line for a nice hot shower and hot meal.
 
gulfman said:
I'll bet the Jews getting off the train at Auschwitz couldn't wait to get in line for a nice hot shower and hot meal.
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Educate yourself. Begin by researching concentration camps.
 
Josie said:
When illegal aliens choose to cross the border they are housed in ICE detention centers at the border. Would you call these centers "concentration camps"?
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Well how do you define a concentration camp? Normally it's a place where political or ethnic minority prisoners are "concentrated", usually with inadequate facilities. This definitely applies to the US border camps.
 
Grand Mal said:
Educate yourself. Begin by researching concentration camps.
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concentration camp
n
(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a guarded prison camp in which nonmilitary prisoners are held, esp one of those in Nazi Germany in which millions were exterminated
 
These latest comments of AOC of her comparing detention centers on the border of people who illegally entered to concentration camps is just appalling. She just keeps on showing her ignorance of history. It was a slap in the face of every Jew living today who lost their family members and those that survived that were hauled in cattle cars to destinations where they were first tortured and lived through seeing family members being killed. And it wasn't just Jews that ended up in these camps but everyone who was caught hiding them.

I am compelled to send AOC a copy of Corrie ten Boom's "The Hiding Places". Her ignorance is just shocking.
 
gulfman said:
When they start gassing and cremating them yes.But until then they are like country clubs.
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Wow. That was the dumbest **** I've seen all day, and I've seen a few posts from James.
 
vesper said:
These latest comments of AOC of her comparing detention centers on the border of people who illegally entered to concentration camps is just appalling. She just keeps on showing her ignorance of history. It was a slap in the face of every Jew living today who lost their family members and those that survived that were hauled in cattle cars to destinations where they were first tortured and lived through seeing family members being killed. And it wasn't just Jews that ended up in these camps but everyone who was caught hiding them.

I am compelled to send AOC a copy of Corrie ten Boom's "The Hiding Places". Her ignorance is just shocking.
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You seem to be having difficulty with the definition of "concentration camps."
 
Hamish Howl said:
Wow. That was the dumbest **** I've seen all day, and I've seen a few posts from James.
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Then can we stop comparing Trump to Hitler than?
 
gulfman said:
concentration camp
n
(Government, Politics & Diplomacy) a guarded prison camp in which nonmilitary prisoners are held, esp one of those in Nazi Germany in which millions were exterminated
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Where's that from?
Non-military, yeah, and also not charged or convicted of a crme.
 
gulfman said:
Then can we stop comparing Trump to Hitler than?
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I'm just gonna sit here and chew on some popcorn, and watch to see if you can top that last post.
 
Josie said:
When illegal aliens choose to cross the border they are housed in ICE detention centers at the border. Would you call these centers "concentration camps"?
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How is "concentration camp" defined?
 
By some definitions, yes
concentration-camp noun - Definition, pictures, pronunciation and usage notes | Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary at OxfordLearnersDictionaries.com
a type of prison, often consisting of a number of buildings inside a fence, where political prisoners, etc. are kept in extremely bad conditions

Concentration Camp | Definition of Concentration Camp by Merriam-Webster
a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard

Concentration camp | Definition of Concentration camp at Dictionary.com
a guarded compound for the detention or imprisonment of aliens, members of ethnic minorities, political opponents, etc.,




By some definitions, maybe not
concentration camp | Facts, History, & Definition | Britannica.com
Concentration camp, internment centre for political prisoners and members of national or minority groups who are confined for reasons of state security, exploitation, or punishment, usually by executive decree or military order.
Persons are placed in such camps often on the basis of identification with a particular ethnic or political group rather than as individuals and without benefit either of indictment or fair trial.
Concentration camps are to be distinguished from prisons interning persons lawfully convicted of civil crimes and from prisoner-of-war camps in which captured military personnel are held under the laws of war.
They are also to be distinguished from refugee camps or detention and relocation centres for the temporary accommodation of large numbers of displaced persons.
 
Irredentist said:
Well how do you define a concentration camp? Normally it's a place where political or ethnic minority prisoners are "concentrated", usually with inadequate facilities. This definitely applies to the US border camps.
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What image comes to your mind when you hear "concentration camp"? I think of the stacks of human bodies and the fingernail scratches on the walls of the gas chambers. Yes, I know it can have a less than horrific definition, but Hitler changed that.

"Detention center" is what it is. It isn't a "concentration camp" as we all know it today.
 
Hamish Howl said:
You seem to be having difficulty with the definition of "concentration camps."
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You seem to be having difficulty with how concentration camps were defined in WWII and all the writings defining the killing of 6 million Jews and those who were caught hiding them and their destinations were defined as concentration camps. The killing of Jews and those who helped to hide them that were sent to said camps facing torture and death but it was also any person in any country that fought the Nazis were rounded up and sent to concentration camps as well. Members of my family in Yugoslavia at the time that were fighting the Nazis and were captured met hideous deaths. Their wives, children and elderly grandparents from the village they were from were ordered into the church. It was boarded up and set on fire by the Nazis killing all of them.

So I don't know what definition you are clinging to but all the writings from WWII where Nazis were gassing, torturing and killing them in mass were defined as concentration camps.

I can't believe in the 21st century that our citizens are so ignorant in history.
 
vesper said:
You seem to be having difficulty with how concentration camps were defined in WWII and all the writings defining the killing of 6 million Jews and those who were caught hiding them and their destinations were defined as concentration camps. The killing of Jews and those who helped to hide them that were sent to said camps facing torture and death but it was also any person in any country that fought the Nazis were rounded up and sent to concentration camps as well. Members of my family in Yugoslavia at the time that were fighting the Nazis and were captured met hideous deaths. Their wives, children and elderly grandparents from the village they were from were ordered into the church. It was boarded up and set on fire by the Nazis killing all of them.

So I don't know what definition you are clinging to but all the writings from WWII where Nazis were gassing, torturing and killing them in mass were defined as concentration camps.

I can't believe in the 21st century that our citizens are so ignorant in history.
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Those were commonly referred to as death camps or extermination camps.

At the same time as those occurred, we had Japanese citizens in concentration camps. We didn't kill them, but they were still concentration camps.
 
Josie said:
What image comes to your mind when you hear "concentration camp"? I think of the stacks of human bodies and the fingernail scratches on the walls of the gas chambers. Yes, I know it can have a less than horrific definition, but Hitler changed that.

"Detention center" is what it is. It isn't a "concentration camp" as we all know it today.
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Does it feel less filthy when you call them "detention centers"?
 
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