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Are the ICE border detention centers "concentration camps"?

Are ICE detention centers concentration camps?

  • Yes, but only when Obama was President

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Thing to keep in mind is the people claiming that these detention centers are providing holiday inn type accommodations are just outright lies probably crafted from the same center they were yakking about that was built during the obama administration. Ill see if i can grab some links from the videos i made on this subject, but especially the private facilities are largely unregulated and contribute funding to political campaigns to make more harsh laws that get people thrown into their prisons. These prisons are under oversight by a private firm that works with these prisons to give them false ratings. The private prison industrial complex dates at least back to reagan.
 
The British empire was all for concentration camps which the nazis picked up from.

The US frowns on the term. Hence, we have Indian "Reservations." Didn't some nut in the Trump House call these detention centers summer camps?

They are all concentration camps. Just some have a casino while others have crematoriums.
 
This is nitpicking and you know it.
We know, you know, that it is eluding to the fact that "Trump is like Hitler when he first started" and all who think we need to have a better immigration system "must be a Nazi".
I don't buy into the "lets carefully at the definition of concentration vs extermination camp", because we all know that, once the Jews, and may others, were on their way to Auschwitz, their fate was sealed.
The Japanese were held during for entirely different reasons. Wrongly so, but no comparison.
We don't round anyone up south of the border. We don't transport anyone to the centers. They come. When they do, they must be checked out. Their fate is not the gas chamber. They are released going north or back south.
Coming over is their choice. Big difference.
If you want to blame someone for their misery, blame those who spread false information while forgetting to mention that we do have laws.
My goodness, this pretense of compassion and false outrage is beyond pale.

Nobody cares about your faux neutrality in this regard. You dont even know jack about the facilities they are detained in nor are you particularly honest about the policy that Trump enacted specifically for deterrence.
 
The US frowns on the term. Hence, we have Indian "Reservations." Didn't some nut in the Trump House call these detention centers summer camps?

They are all concentration camps. Just some have a casino while others have crematoriums.
Yep but nobody seems to have any of this faux rage about those lies.
 
Yep but nobody seems to have any of this faux rage about those lies.

Nope. All they ever get mad about is. "You compared us to Nazis!"
 
From Merriam Webster:

Concentration camp - a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard.

And I chose the second option, because detaining them based on their status is specifically the policy.
 
Wow. It's delusional to think we are putting Central Americans in concentration camps where, instead of showers, we turn on the gas to kill them all. It is very disrespectful of victims of the Holocaust to make such a comparison. In fact, it is downright disgusting.

Where exactly in the definition of a concentration camp does it say they include death by gas?
 
Nope. All they ever get mad about is. "You compared us to Nazis!"

Truth and justice are what these people who defend concentration camps fear.
 
From Merriam Webster:

Concentration camp - a place where large numbers of people (such as prisoners of war, political prisoners, refugees, or the members of an ethnic or religious minority) are detained or confined under armed guard.

And I chose the second option, because detaining them based on their status is specifically the policy.

And again, do you really beleive AOC or CNN was talking about the Merriam Webster definition of a concentration camp?
 
When they start gassing and cremating them yes.But until then they are like country clubs.

How about the little Mexican flags they make them wear on the their armbands?
 
And again, do you really beleive AOC or CNN was talking about the Merriam Webster definition of a concentration camp?

Yes, she used that inflammatory language on purpose to incite hate for ICE, which she wants to eliminate.
 
Nobody cares about your faux neutrality in this regard. You dont even know jack about the facilities they are detained in nor are you particularly honest about the policy that Trump enacted specifically for deterrence.

Illegal activity should be deterred. You think it should be encouraged.
 
No, it has nothing to do with them.

All this is is a little dumb girl who gets a few glasses of $2 buck Chuck in her and goes attention whoring.

Those that defend her, show their dishonesty. Those that believe her, their stupidity.
 
And again, do you really beleive AOC or CNN was talking about the Merriam Webster definition of a concentration camp?

By now it is obvious that the like-minded don't care what AOC or CNN was attempting to convey. They only wish to rabbit foot it to a dictionary, find one of several definitions, and then posture (without justification or explanation) that meaning is the only "real" meaning used in all popular discourse.

When numerous posts have demonstrated those claims to be false, they have not responded with a refutation but a parroting of the same disingenuous claim. Whence they learned this talent for text parsing and obfuscation is unknown (perhaps Bill Clinton "I did not have sex" or Joe Izuzu) I am unsure.

The bright side is that outside the fortified illogic bunker of debatepolitics, the game "let's play stupid" on AOC's intent is doing very poorly. More to follow...
 
These latest comments of AOC of her comparing detention centers on the border of people who illegally entered to concentration camps is just appalling. She just keeps on showing her ignorance of history. It was a slap in the face of every Jew living today who lost their family members and those that survived that were hauled in cattle cars to destinations where they were first tortured and lived through seeing family members being killed. And it wasn't just Jews that ended up in these camps but everyone who was caught hiding them.

I am compelled to send AOC a copy of Corrie ten Boom's "The Hiding Places". Her ignorance is just shocking.

She's over her head not ready for prime time but I do feel cheated if I don't get a minute or two of AOCon cable eeveryday.
She's one of a kind I hope she isn't promaried!
 
First, I notice that you did not seem to be concerned with locking children in cages but are mostly only worried about what we call the places where we lock children in cages. That says a lot.

Second, why do you conflate extermination camps with concentration camps? Are you not good with words?
I didn't use the words "extermination camps" ... but those concentration camps during WWII I mentioned had extermination facilities as well.
I'm good enough with words that I wouldn't need to redefine holding facilities here as being the same as those WWII "concentration camps" there just to to justify the hate you might have.
Auschwitz-Birkenau

If you really believe they're the same I'm sure you could never be convinced otherwise.
 
Where exactly in the definition of a concentration camp does it say they include death by gas?

The left get more and more abhorrent every day. They are just disgusting POS. Next thing you know they will be calling all jails and prisons concentration camps.
 
The left get more and more abhorrent every day. They are just disgusting POS. Next thing you know they will be calling all jails and prisons concentration camps.

Like Sheriff Joe Arpaio who called his own tent city prisons "concentration camps".

Boy, he sure is a lefty hero, isn't he??

Also, do you really think places like 'real' concentration camps just pop up overnight?


EDIT: To add, you want to talk about abhorrent. You - the guy who said he would vote for a child molestor over any democrat?? I guess this plus that show how you excuse the abuse of children.
 
And again, do you really beleive AOC or CNN was talking about the Merriam Webster definition of a concentration camp?

It doesn’t matter, because that’s what a concentration camp is.
 
Like Sheriff Joe Arpaio who called his own tent city prisons "concentration camps".

Boy, he sure is a lefty hero, isn't he??

Also, do you really think places like 'real' concentration camps just pop up overnight?

Joe is not my hero. He doesn't speak for anyone but himself. By the way, the poll clearly shows 70% of voters don't agree with the comparison.
 
Joe is not my hero. He doesn't speak for anyone but himself. By the way, the poll clearly shows 70% of voters don't agree with the comparison.

You said the next thing you know lefties will call prisons concentration camps.

I showed you an instance someone not on the left who did that. Guess you can say Sheriff Joe is pretty darn abhorrent, no?

Also, I did edit to add this just is another instance where the abuse of children just flies right under your radar so I am not surprised on your take here.
 
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Where exactly in the definition of a concentration camp does it say they include death by gas?

And where is it decreed that this particular definition IS the only meaning found in dictionaries, reference works, and literature?

And if there are others that point out they are strongly or exclusively linked to the Nazi death camps (which I have shown there are), then what is your (or AOC's) point? To produce a lame excuse for tie Nazi Death Camps as the defining characteristic of border camps?

And are you aware that AOC also linked her "meaning" to the holocaust motto "Never Again" and fascism?

My exasperation with posters unwillingness to engage thoughtfully won't encourage you (or others) to change your mind, none the less its overdue asking "Just how context deaf are you"?
 
And where is it decreed that this particular definition IS the only meaning found in dictionaries, reference works, and literature?

And if there are others that point out they are strongly or exclusively linked to the Nazi death camps (which I have shown there are), then what is your (or AOC's) point? To produce a lame excuse for tie Nazi Death Camps as the defining characteristic of border camps?

And are you aware that AOC also linked her "meaning" to the holocaust motto "Never Again" and fascism?

My exasperation with posters unwillingness to engage thoughtfully won't encourage you (or others) to change your mind, none the less its overdue asking "Just how context deaf are you"?

Look, I have yet to actually agree these are in fact concentration camps. It's a very shaky term with a lot of bad history behind it but if we don't speak up now, could it go that way?

In the end regardless of what we choose to call the places, the treatment of children at the expense to make rich people richer is not a good look for us. We Americans are better than that, right?
 
It doesn’t matter, because that’s what a concentration camp is.

So a concentration camp is a single meaning you selected from a single reference work. How is does that establish exclusively "what is", let alone "why it doesn't matter"?
 
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