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Democrats/progressives/liberals, what have you personally done to help refugees?

Democrats/progressives/liberals, what have you personally done to help refugees?

  • Contributed money to aid organizations - state how much

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Offered a spare room or couch to sleep on

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Contributed food, clothing and other essentials

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Offer transportation for shopping, job seeking and legal matters

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Invited a refugee family to your house for dinner

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Taking supplies to a tent city were refugees stay

    Votes: 1 5.0%

  • Made meals and/or worked a shelter

    Votes: 2 10.0%

  • Nothing but ranted on forums and will vote Democrat

    Votes: 4 20.0%

  • Other - say what it is exactly

    Votes: 10 50.0%

  • I OPPOSE the Democratic Party's immigration policies & goals

    Votes: 8 40.0%
  • Total voters
    20
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MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
 
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joko104 said:
So... YOU invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to your non-stop declarations of compassion and charity.
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Suppose you're house sitting your parents' mansion. You throw open the door, cry "Come one and all! Mi casa es su casa!", leave the door wide open, and return to watching reruns of "The Batchelor" on TV.

Haven't you "done" enough for the poor and indigent?
 
I voted other because it depends on the illegal, er I mean the refugee. If the refugee is a drug smuggler, accepted. If the refugee is a criminal gang member, I try to recruit them. If the refugee is seeking asylum from a horrific situation, I turn them away or call the cops on them because I'm a law abidin' citizen.
 
joko104 said:
MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
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Why only leftists? What have all the other political ideologies done? Some have even hurt them, but I think the bottom line is jack ****.
 
As a typical liberal i believe my tax dollars should be used to handle this situation. There is/was a system to handle the asylum seekers that worked pretty well before Trump.

My thoughts are the whole Trump Immigration Wall Roundup etc is just a political stunt to rope in the deplorables.

If they really wanted to do something about illegal immigration they would go after those hiring them. Hell congress could at least make E Verify mandatory. But they (The Republicans in Congress) won't do it. They know their donor base wants that cheap labor here.

The whole immigration thing is a.political stunt. A scam on you deplorables. Republicans will never cut off that supply of cheap labor.
 
rickc said:
As a typical liberal i believe my tax dollars should be used to handle this situation. There is/was a system to handle the asylum seekers that worked pretty well before Trump.

My thoughts are the whole Trump Immigration Wall Roundup etc is just a political stunt to rope in the deplorables.

If they really wanted to do something about illegal immigration they would go after those hiring them. Hell congress could at least make E Verify mandatory. But they (The Republicans in Congress) won't do it. They know their donor base wants that cheap labor here.

The whole immigration thing is a.political stunt. A scam on you deplorables. Republicans will never cut off that supply of cheap labor.
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Amen brother. Well said.
 
joko104 said:
MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
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What have you personally done to build Trump's wall?
 
rickc said:
As a typical liberal i believe my tax dollars should be used to handle this situation. There is/was a system to handle the asylum seekers that worked pretty well before Trump.
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As it does for the poor and the homeless as well, wherever those tax dollars are wisely spent.

The 'Let them starve' brand of 'conservative' is quick to insist anyone who shows an ounce of communal passion make a personal sacrifice to help "your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free"...or just 'the brown'. They do this only as a mask for their own insensitivity. In addition to any volunteering or donations, I pay my taxes and vote for candidates who will attempt to use them to show compassion.

I do not, nor do I feel I need to, share my house with strangers. The bar is not set there. Facilities exist for that, and not Trump's cages either.
 
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rocket88 said:
What have you personally done to build Trump's wall?
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Amen to that. Let every fat trucker hat-wearing 'conservative' take his boots and his shovel down the border and start digging if its so important. Or they could just pay into a kickstarter who's going to bilk them anyway.
 
rickc said:
As a typical liberal i believe my tax dollars should be used to handle this situation. There is/was a system to handle the asylum seekers that worked pretty well before Trump.

My thoughts are the whole Trump Immigration Wall Roundup etc is just a political stunt to rope in the deplorables.

If they really wanted to do something about illegal immigration they would go after those hiring them. Hell congress could at least make E Verify mandatory. But they (The Republicans in Congress) won't do it. They know their donor base wants that cheap labor here.

The whole immigration thing is a.political stunt. A scam on you deplorables. Republicans will never cut off that supply of cheap labor.
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Of course, it's a scam. So what if a bunch of people who aren't white want to enter our country? I'm part American Indian and I consider myself white. If I lived where they lived, I'd be as dark as they are. I was hoping we were over killing Native Americans, but I guess not.

I really don't give a damn, if some of those people from coming from the Central American Triangle countries are lying about their asylum needs. All people are valuable and our country should appreciate having them.
 
joko104 said:
MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
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When you put your MAGA hardhat on and begin putting southern wall sections in place, then we'll talk.
 
joko104 said:
MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
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You first. :)
 
rocket88 said:
What have you personally done to build Trump's wall?
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If you will recall, Democrats raged and went to court to block private financing the wall and otherwise declared it illegal, plus the corporate fascist gzillionaires who own the Internet search engines and info sources banned it. Otherwise we would have contributed significantly.

In other words, you side fought successfully to make it illegal.
 
Phys251 said:
You first. :)
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Unlike every Democrat but one desperate to divert from answering, I will answer directly. I have done absolutely nothing for foreign refugess, other than any tax dollars used. I checked that I oppose the Democrat's immigration policies.

On the other hand, I have done more for poor and defenseless Americans in desperate or truly needy situations more than anyone on this forum would ever believe. There are many such people alive specifically because of my actions, which included putting my life on the line (and for which I was once shot for it. Fortunately it was superficial).

IF I supported welcoming impoverished immigrants I would minimally throw money at it, a lot, since none are coming to this small city.
 
Gary said:
Of course, it's a scam. So what if a bunch of people who aren't white want to enter our country? I'm part American Indian and I consider myself white. If I lived where they lived, I'd be as dark as they are. I was hoping we were over killing Native Americans, but I guess not.

I really don't give a damn, if some of those people from coming from the Central American Triangle countries are lying about their asylum needs. All people are valuable and our country should appreciate having them.
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So your answer is no, you've done nothing to actually help any refugee, correct? :roll:
 
joko104 said:
Unlike every Democrat but one desperate to divert
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Please stop with the attitude, Joko. It makes your pathetic OP look even worse.

On the other hand, I have done more for poor and defenseless Americans in desperate or truly needy situations more than anyone on this forum would ever believe. There are many such people alive specifically because of my actions, which included putting my life on the line (and for which I was once shot for it. Fortunately it was superficial).
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You want a participation trophy?
 
Rogue Valley said:
When you put your MAGA hardhat on and begin putting southern wall sections in place, then we'll talk.
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The Democratic Party successfully battled to make doing so illegal, nor do I have the power of eminent domain for the land.

Your answer is "no, you've done nothing to help any refugees whatsoever," correct?
 
joko104 said:
MULTIPLE CHOICE - you can pick more than one. This is a PUBLIC poll. No hiding on this one, folks.

The Democratic Party has openly invited desperately and/or endangered poor defenseless person anywhere in the world to come here, promising them "sanctuary" in cities and states they control, declaring we need them and they will be welcomed with compassionate and generous open arms, sharing wealth with them to help them.

Hundreds of thousands already rounded up every dollar they can, selling what little they have leaving nothing to return to, family maybe collectively contributing so one of them or one family can set off on their quest to come to the American Promise Land of the rich white people. They give this money to violent, sadistic, brutal rapist drug cartel "coyotes" - facing every possible hardship.

Maybe millions, maybe tens to hundreds of millions now share the dream created by these Democratic Party promises and are rounding up what little money they can to come here to the Democratic Party's "sanctuaries" for them in the Promise Land of the generous rich white people.

Nearly all Democrats on this forum claim these people are fleeing for their lives from death or terror, ranting and sobbing on their behalf.

So... YOU - your side - invited them here. What are YOU doing for them? I mean YOU personally? Let's find out if there is 1 ounce of truth to any of your non-stop declarations of personal compassion and charity towards foreign refugees. You have hundreds or thousands of hours to spare/waste on this forum and online. Have you spent 1 minute or 1 dollar trying to help even 1 refugee? Sacrificed anything? If so, how?
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I am not liberal/progressive/Democrat but I did answer the poll since I have worked hands on resettling LEGAL refugees. You did not specify whether these refugees were legal or illegal.

I strongly oppose policy that encourages refugees to risk their children, their women, their health, their well being to come here illegally. It is cruel. It is inhumane. It is selfishness for political purposes beyond anything the worst of the worst could have dreamed up.
 
bongsaway said:
I voted other because it depends on the illegal, er I mean the refugee. If the refugee is a drug smuggler, accepted. If the refugee is a criminal gang member, I try to recruit them. If the refugee is seeking asylum from a horrific situation, I turn them away or call the cops on them because I'm a law abidin' citizen.
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So your answer is you've done absolutely nothing to help any refugee, instead you decided to use this thread to ridicule and laugh at them. :roll:
 
AlbqOwl said:
I am not liberal/progressive/Democrat but I did answer the poll since I have worked hands on resettling LEGAL refugees. You did not specify whether these refugees were legal or illegal.
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That is a clarification you can make. I congratulate you - and for seeing the distinction and the cruelty aspect as well.

I will not criticize anyone who PERSONALLY is being compassion or helpful. I'd feed, render aid and even temporarily house any truly desperate person - particularly a family and children, regardless of circumstance - if they were before me. No exceptions (other than in theory certain violent criminals, for which I would have no problem watching them die hoping that person would get on with dying quicker. Might even help out on that.)

Can you give an example of what you've done? Again, I will not criticize your compassion. I will criticize people who rant and sob that I should be compassionate, while they do NOTHING themselves.
 
For those checking they've done something, specifics would be nice. Personally, I will not criticize anyone who personally is doing acts of compassion and kindness, despite my opposition to open immigration such as it is.

For example for Americans in need, we've provided housing, food, money, clothing, vehicles to use and to have, even a few we provided jobs to (offering clean looking people on the street a chance at a very good paying low skills job). Done more than that too, but that topic get dicey and too far off topic.
 
rickc said:
As a typical liberal i believe my tax dollars should be used to handle this situation. There is/was a system to handle the asylum seekers that worked pretty well before Trump.

My thoughts are the whole Trump Immigration Wall Roundup etc is just a political stunt to rope in the deplorables.

If they really wanted to do something about illegal immigration they would go after those hiring them. Hell congress could at least make E Verify mandatory. But they (The Republicans in Congress) won't do it. They know their donor base wants that cheap labor here.

The whole immigration thing is a.political stunt. A scam on you deplorables. Republicans will never cut off that supply of cheap labor.
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Exactly. Businesses that own hotels and landscaping contractors and golf course operators can't relocate to a Maquiladora zone to take advantage of cheap labour but they know that cheap labour has feet and can be lured, induced to come to them.
 
joko104 said:
Can you give an example of what you've done? Again, I will not criticize your compassion. I will criticize people who rant and sob that I should be compassionate, while they do NOTHING themselves.
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So the purpose of this thread is to find someone to personally criticize?

As I said before one does not have to make a personal sacrifice - physical or financial hardship - in order to be an earnest supporter of compassionate use of community resources. It is nice to at least volunteer some time, provided one has some to spare, but also not a requirement. people who 'rant and sob' are trying to lobby the authorities - who are often much better equipped than civic organizations and community groups and especially individuals - to do something on their behalf as constituents and taxpayers. This is not a a difficult proposition. It is the way much of the world works and certainly the way a lot of social programs are decided.

The "Well what have you done?" comeback is not an argument, it's a stunt. It's a logical fallacy designed to deflect attention from the argument itself onto an individual to discredit them. Just another logical fallacy.
 
joko104 said:
So your answer is you've done absolutely nothing to help any refugee, instead you decided to use this thread to ridicule and laugh at them. :roll:
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No joko, not at them. Look into the mirror and tell me what you see?
 
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