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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeltoid View Post
    I was a captain in the FD. When I went to a new station, I would always put the crew through the paces, to see what I had to work with. My 2nd duty station as a Capt., was a single engine company with 2 men and 2 women, not counting myself. When one of the men were off, I had 2 women and a male driver. The first drill I had the driver pull up to the rear of the station, pull an attack line off, and told the two females to throw a ladder to the roof, then climb it with the attack line. I started the stopwatch as they approached the pumper to pull the ladder. I stood there and watched as the girls struggled to get the ladder off the hooks. After a good 10 minutes of this, I stopped the drill. The driver and I had the ladder off the hooks and up in under 2 minutes. I was at another station when we took the engine out to service hydrants. I watched as a female struggled to take the 4 1/2 inch cap off to flow the hydrant. After a few minutes of her yanking on the hydrant wrench, then standing on it and jumping up and down on it, I told her to stop, and took it off in about 30 seconds. I spoke to the Battalion chief about it. He told me it was my job to train them to do it. He said, "They passed the academy, they should be able to do it." So, it has nothing to do with being open minded, and for the record, when it comes to that, I'm not. I put in a transfer immediately after the first incident.
    My experience was similar to yours. I owned a construction company. Over the years I had a couple of women who could definitely pull their weight with the guys. But generally, they just didn't have the physical strength or stamina. Funny thing is, the one or two women that could do the heavy lifting were the hardest on the ones who couldn't.

    What women could do better than the guys was detail work. They just had much more patience than most guys. So I put them on things like trim, wallpaper and many complex painting jobs. All jobs requiring attention to detail more than speed or strength. I don't see how that would work at a fire department though.

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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by rickc View Post
    I have always wondered why they claimed that title while running up trillions of dollars in debt.

    Do Republicans just ignore the fiscal side of conservatism and focus on church, abortion, hating gays and other issues. Is that what conservatism means to republicans?
    Do Republicans consider themselves Conservative?
    While I can't really define myself as a Republican, Democrat, or supporter of any other political affiliation, I can easily be defined as a Conservative, who can at times be liberal within the means I posses, not religious, but tolerant of others religious views as long as they don't impose them on me, accepting ALL people as simply other humans regardless of race, colour, sex, gender, politics, etc., as long as they respect our equal right to live our individual lives without forceful imposition upon each other.

    As I've said before, Liberal and Conservative, as I define them is simply the equivalent of wasteful and frugal.

    Our government has become very Liberal, regardless of its' political affiliation at any moment of time.

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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    I define myself as a cultural and fiscal conservative. I also have some socially conservative leanings but I do not believe the government should be used to impose those viewpoints.
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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Vadinho View Post
    Well, I have a very close family friend who was one of the first female firefighters in our city, began in the late 80s. She is 6-1, about 170 pounds of muscle and she can do anything any man can do. The rest of her female associates were just as strong and capable. I know plenty of her male firefighters that have worked with her and the other women for decades. Not a single one of them thinks they were below standard or less then a man on the job. Your example is one of being more selective in the academy and is not representative of women firefighters here in SoCal. These ladies kicked butt.
    You are absolutely right. The academy under our liberal administration here was more concerned with political correctness than hiring the most qualified applicant. I took the entrance test 5 times. Many of my friends did as well. Every now and then I would go visit the academy when they were running the physical strength and agility test. One part of it was lifting a 100 lb dummy, go up a flight of stairs, set it down, pick it up, turn around and carry it back down the stairs. The groups went from testing area to testing area. When the females got to the tough parts, the men were taken into a room and weren't allowed to watch. Like I said, I never had a problem with the woman that could do the job. I have a problem with hiring applicants that can't do the job. Male or female.

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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    My experience was similar to yours. I owned a construction company. Over the years I had a couple of women who could definitely pull their weight with the guys. But generally, they just didn't have the physical strength or stamina. Funny thing is, the one or two women that could do the heavy lifting were the hardest on the ones who couldn't.

    What women could do better than the guys was detail work. They just had much more patience than most guys. So I put them on things like trim, wallpaper and many complex painting jobs. All jobs requiring attention to detail more than speed or strength. I don't see how that would work at a fire department though.
    You bring up a good point. There are a lot of very good female paramedics in the dept. Back in the day, we would put the men that seemed a little on the weak side on the medic. Now days the EMS is very technical . We had 2 female paramedics in my station. They were pretty good. They were not very strong, so a lot of times they would request an engine to assist with carrying the stretcher down steps, etc. I didn't mind too much, unless I was asleep in my bunk.

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    Re: Why Do Republicans Consider Themselves Conservatives

    Quote Originally Posted by mrdeltoid View Post
    You are absolutely right. The academy under our liberal administration here was more concerned with political correctness than hiring the most qualified applicant. I took the entrance test 5 times. Many of my friends did as well. Every now and then I would go visit the academy when they were running the physical strength and agility test. One part of it was lifting a 100 lb dummy, go up a flight of stairs, set it down, pick it up, turn around and carry it back down the stairs. The groups went from testing area to testing area. When the females got to the tough parts, the men were taken into a room and weren't allowed to watch. Like I said, I never had a problem with the woman that could do the job. I have a problem with hiring applicants that can't do the job. Male or female.
    Well hopefully they learned a lesson. I guess we were lucky over here.
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