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Thread: Single-Use Plastic Bans

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Why concentrate on only one thing that is not biodegradable?
    That's only in your head.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Dude go troll someone else for a change.
    Your entire routine in this thread is: "What about my ignorance."


    You're not debating. You're putting up a wall of ignorance. When people explain one thing, you cry "what about another". You've contributed nothing.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    About one-third of an average dump is made up of packaging material. So what about the other two-thirds?
    I'm not about to go the dump to check, but this link includes a breakdown.

    Landfills are the most widely utilized solid waste management option. What is in our landfills? Although findings differ slightly, in 2006 approximately 26 percent of materials entering landfills were paper products, 18 percent food scraps, 16 percent plastic, 9 percent rubber, leather, and other textiles, 7 percent each of yard waste, metals, and wood, and 6 percent glass. This does not, however, reflect actual landfill content at any point in time since some materials decompose faster, or compact better, than others.
    Landfills - The Environmental Literacy Council
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Why concentrate on only one thing that is not biodegradable?
    I wasn't aware we are. But I'm fine with that, if it's reasonable.

    But the non-bio-degradable problem is a big one, for obvious reasons. Bio-degradable stuff eventually breaks down.
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    Well technically you are not suppose to sticking things in your ears, that is how you damage things. The outside of the ear can be cleaned with cloth or towel. However if you really need to buy a metal instrument or something.
    Wouldnt recommend a reusable towel for that :p

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Sabre View Post
    Well as to butchers, I have a butcher shop near me and even Costco has butchers that will do request cuts for you.

    Aluminum is already used widely even in drinks and it is totally recyclable. If you do just toss it, it will biodegrade where as most plastics do not. I recently saw a video being taken from a robot surveying the bottom of the ocean two miles down when it passed over a plastic bag.

    Everything takes energy so is that an excuse not to choose less polluting things than plastics? Plastics take energy too. No most answers are not simple, but if you wait for the simple way the damage will already have been done, like a trip, it all starts with the first step.
    You're avoiding my question. Which packaging material takes the most energy to sustain it's use? It isn't JUST about recycling.

    And your answer about butchers. Are you suggesting we go to butchers in every grocery store and custom cut meat? THAT sounds pretty costly.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I wasn't aware we are. But I'm fine with that, if it's reasonable.

    But the non-bio-degradable problem is a big one, for obvious reasons. Bio-degradable stuff eventually breaks down.
    Bio-degradable stuff does not really save landfill space. Also bio-degradable stuff produces methane since it is in a oxygen free spot. More bio-degradables means more methane gas released into the atmosphere resulting in more effects on the climate. My local landfill that I use does not capture methane gas. The largest town that use the same landfill has a ordinance against plastic bags. That means that said law is causing more methane to be released into the atmosphere.

    Half assed solutions can be worse than well thought out and backed by research and science solutions. We should let the people qualified on such things make the suggestions rather than political activists. This after all a a field of science and government bans (or un-bans see trumps crap) are usually not based on science on things like this.

    Let science fix this conundrum then suggest their solution and if laws need to be enacted then the political debate can start. Until then the government needs to stay out of the way of science.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    The recycling systems in North America are at capacity. A friend of the family works in a depot and their backlog is 8 years at last check. Until now we have been splitting the burden by sending our recycling to China, but they have stopped accepting it. Most our backlog is now going to landfill.

    This means that the only way to really cut down is at the "reduce" stage of reduce, reuse, recycle. If people aren't using it at the entry level then it won't need to be processed. Until now, consumers and industry have put all the emphasis on the "recycle" part. We really just need to stop buying this crap.

    The problem is that anything that replaces the plastics has to also be energy efficient. Those reusable textile grocery bags often cost a larger carbon footprint to create. The plastic bags are actually less costly, in terms of carbon. However, the plastics are choking the oceans, so for the interim, a ban on them makes sense.

    I would like to see plastic packaging reduced. There's no reason for most of it.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal View Post
    Are you going to include single use throw away diapers? You will if you are serious.
    Could you explain this post? Thanks
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    Could you explain this post? Thanks


    You need diapers explained to you? Seriously?

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