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Thread: Single-Use Plastic Bans

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    I live in southern CA., (San Diego), home of the best margaritas in the nation. Trust me when I say sipping a margie through a paper straw is beyond intolerable and an insult to humanity. It just ain't right!
    I don't mind a ban on plastic straws if it saves a turtle, but make an exception plz., and bring back my plastic straws for margaritas.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I live in southern CA., (San Diego), home of the best margaritas in the nation. Trust me when I say sipping a margie through a paper straw is beyond intolerable and an insult to humanity. It just ain't right!
    I don't mind a ban on plastic straws if it saves a turtle, but make an exception plz., and bring back my plastic straws for margaritas.
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Bio-degradable stuff does not really save landfill space. Also bio-degradable stuff produces methane since it is in a oxygen free spot. More bio-degradables means more methane gas released into the atmosphere resulting in more effects on the climate. My local landfill that I use does not capture methane gas. The largest town that use the same landfill has a ordinance against plastic bags. That means that said law is causing more methane to be released into the atmosphere.

    Half assed solutions can be worse than well thought out and backed by research and science solutions. We should let the people qualified on such things make the suggestions rather than political activists. This after all a a field of science and government bans (or un-bans see trumps crap) are usually not based on science on things like this.

    Let science fix this conundrum then suggest their solution and if laws need to be enacted then the political debate can start. Until then the government needs to stay out of the way of science.
    I don't know the numbers, so I can't argue the ratio of degradable to non-degradable refuse. But it's a bit scary to be producing stuff that, for most purposes, sticks around nearly forever.
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    I don't know the numbers, so I can't argue the ratio of degradable to non-degradable refuse. But it's a bit scary to be producing stuff that, for most purposes, sticks around nearly forever.
    Its only scary if said stuff is toxic.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by trixare4kids View Post
    I live in southern CA., (San Diego), home of the best margaritas in the nation. Trust me when I say sipping a margie through a paper straw is beyond intolerable and an insult to humanity. It just ain't right!
    I don't mind a ban on plastic straws if it saves a turtle, but make an exception plz., and bring back my plastic straws for margaritas.
    I always thought the rim of the glass was coated with salt to enhance the taste of the drink. You would lose that using a straw....but....glass straws are made, and if you use a straw for a cocktail I think glass might be nicer than either paper or plastic.

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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    There is probably some law against that based on a public health risk.
    Something could be worked out, for example customers accepting the risk of using their own containers, and the food safety up to the point of it being placed in the customer's container being regulated - perhaps the restaurant can have accept/refuse veto on a given container?

    Or standardized reusable containers that are washed by the restaurant or a service for such to an acceptable standard, then used to transport food to customers and returned to the service or the restaurant.

    Frankly the former would be easiest, but there might be issues with odd containers, and such.

    The latter would involve an entire infrastructure to support standardized reusable containers.
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Something could be worked out, for example customers accepting the risk of using their own containers, and the food safety up to the point of it being placed in the customer's container being regulated - perhaps the restaurant can have accept/refuse veto on a given container?

    Or standardized reusable containers that are washed by the restaurant or a service for such to an acceptable standard, then used to transport food to customers and returned to the service or the restaurant.

    Frankly the former would be easiest, but there might be issues with odd containers, and such.

    The latter would involve an entire infrastructure to support standardized reusable containers.
    The problem is with the restaurant's serving utensils or personnel touching the customer introduced containers. The option of no longer using one time use containers for to go food orders is dependent on the cost of the containers (are they to be purchased by new customers in addition to each meal initially?), having to wash them (for re-use if they are returned) and the odds of them being returned on a regular basis (any that are taken out may never be returned).
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The problem is with the restaurant's serving utensils or personnel touching the customer introduced containers. The option of no longer using one time use containers for to go food orders is dependent on the cost of the containers (are they to be purchased by new customers in addition to each meal initially?), having to wash them (for re-use if they are returned) and the odds of them being returned on a regular basis (any that are taken out may never be returned).
    Perhaps the solution is to have the containers remain single-use but be easily biodegradable or recyclable.
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    Re: Single-Use Plastic Bans

    Quote Originally Posted by The Mark View Post
    Perhaps the solution is to have the containers remain single-use but be easily biodegradable or recyclable.
    That seems to be the best idea. The main loss would be the insulating quality of styrofoam but customers with a need for it could place the other containers (or the food product itself) into their own (better?) insulated or heated/cooled containers.
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