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"Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Do you support Boston granting a Straight Pride Parade permit?

  • Yes

    Votes: 36 73.5%

  • No

    Votes: 7 14.3%

  • I'm not sure

    Votes: 1 2.0%

  • Other

    Votes: 5 10.2%
  • Total voters
    49
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Accidentally voted no.
Who gives a ****, people are free to waste as much of their time as they want.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Captain Adverse said:
I just found this video after viewing a report by TimCast (Tim Pool) a Center-Left commentator. Link to his video here: YouTube

This is the news report from WCVB channel 5 Boston, an ABC affiliate:




According to the TimCast video, the three member group is seeking a permit for a one day event on 08/31/19 to march down the same route used by the Gay Pride parade which ends at City Hall, where they also hope to raise the "Straight Pride Flag" (seen below) for 3 hours and give some speeches.


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Of course, "everyone" (i.e. those opposed to anything they consider "hate expression") per the TimCast video appears to be outraged at this effort.

I think it is hilarious; and if they are serious, then as both a free expression AND gay rights advocate I think they should be allowed to do so.

I do not believe arguments that claim those who are "privileged" lose their right to free experssion and the freedom of assembly. Non-violent free expression is a foundational principle of our society.

The essential idea is to allow non-violent freedom of expression for ALL viewpoints regardless of whether or not you agree with it; most especially if you don't agree. Else by limiting opposing expression you set a dangerous precedent which can eventually be used against you.

Meanwhile, these guys seem to be on a lark, or at worst testing the waters to see if our society is tilting too far to edge of totalitarian thought/speech controls.

So I say, let them be permitted and have their march. What say you?
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I say "yes".
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

bearpoker said:
The Jews were never privileged. Let's not go there!
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So what if they were. Wealth is not a crime.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
The majority in question is power not population. The subject at hand is social dynamics not population demographics. The disproportion of female population to power is what makes females a minority.

Females: 50% of population and perhaps 10% of power.
Black people: 13% of the population and perhaps 3% of the power.

You agree, of course, that all groups in total are of equal capacity. So what's up with that. Bigotry is up with that.


From a previous edit, for clarity regarding my point:

The majority is privileged. Pretending a minority is privileged is not good. It's very bad. It's historical nightmare bad.

Again: Not The Same Thing. Got it?
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There's a revenge element in these groups. No one should have to just sit there and take it.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

SDET said:
There's a revenge element in these groups. No one should have to just sit there and take it.
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Majority privilege is real. A scientific fact.

"Minority privilege" is hate.


See the difference?
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

SDET said:
So what if they were. Wealth is not a crime.
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Some people see others as stereotypes rather than individuals.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

SDET said:
So what if they were. Wealth is not a crime.
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They were not. Just as gays are not privileged now. The imagination of those who use scapegoats to explain their own inadequacies is a dangerous thing.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

SDET said:
There's a revenge element in these groups. No one should have to just sit there and take it.
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Really? You drip with revenge against women.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

SDET said:
So what if they were. Wealth is not a crime.
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Privilege is not wealth. I don't think you understand the concept.

Privilege is preferential treatment in housing, employment and the justice system. Privilege is a majority power that insulates a group from social constructs to their detriment as a group.

Wealth is part of it, but not even the beginning of a definition of majority privilege.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Captain Adverse said:
I just found this video after viewing a report by TimCast (Tim Pool) a Center-Left commentator. Link to his video here: YouTube

This is the news report from WCVB channel 5 Boston, an ABC affiliate:




According to the TimCast video, the three member group is seeking a permit for a one day event on 08/31/19 to march down the same route used by the Gay Pride parade which ends at City Hall, where they also hope to raise the "Straight Pride Flag" (seen below) for 3 hours and give some speeches.


View attachment 67257717

Of course, "everyone" (i.e. those opposed to anything they consider "hate expression") per the TimCast video appears to be outraged at this effort.

I think it is hilarious; and if they are serious, then as both a free expression AND gay rights advocate I think they should be allowed to do so.

I do not believe arguments that claim those who are "privileged" lose their right to free experssion and the freedom of assembly. Non-violent free expression is a foundational principle of our society.

The essential idea is to allow non-violent freedom of expression for ALL viewpoints regardless of whether or not you agree with it; most especially if you don't agree. Else by limiting opposing expression you set a dangerous precedent which can eventually be used against you.

Meanwhile, these guys seem to be on a lark, or at worst testing the waters to see if our society is tilting too far to edge of totalitarian thought/speech controls.

So I say, let them be permitted and have their march. What say you?
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I support them getting the permit, because there is no legitimate reason to deny them the permit, short of the date/time they are asking is already taken by another event.

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Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Captain Adverse said:
I just found this video after viewing a report by TimCast (Tim Pool) a Center-Left commentator. Link to his video here: YouTube

This is the news report from WCVB channel 5 Boston, an ABC affiliate:




According to the TimCast video, the three member group is seeking a permit for a one day event on 08/31/19 to march down the same route used by the Gay Pride parade which ends at City Hall, where they also hope to raise the "Straight Pride Flag" (seen below) for 3 hours and give some speeches.


View attachment 67257717

Of course, "everyone" (i.e. those opposed to anything they consider "hate expression") per the TimCast video appears to be outraged at this effort.

I think it is hilarious; and if they are serious, then as both a free expression AND gay rights advocate I think they should be allowed to do so.

I do not believe arguments that claim those who are "privileged" lose their right to free experssion and the freedom of assembly. Non-violent free expression is a foundational principle of our society.

The essential idea is to allow non-violent freedom of expression for ALL viewpoints regardless of whether or not you agree with it; most especially if you don't agree. Else by limiting opposing expression you set a dangerous precedent which can eventually be used against you.

Meanwhile, these guys seem to be on a lark, or at worst testing the waters to see if our society is tilting too far to edge of totalitarian thought/speech controls.

So I say, let them be permitted and have their march. What say you?
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i don't mind if they march but it seems ****ing retarded

never been atakced or put down for bieng hetero sexul
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

I think it is absolutely stupid, ridiculous and pathetic because every day is straight pride day IMHO, but if they have a permit they should be allowed to make idiots of themselves.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
Majority privilege is real. A scientific fact.

"Minority privilege" is hate.


See the difference?
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Since you said it, then show that science.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

FreedomFromAll said:
Since you said it, then show that science.
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Stats. Lots and lots of stats, controlled for a million things. And history. And economics. And anthropology. Take a class or wiki it. I'm not here to hold ignorant hands. If you think "majority privilege doesn't exist, prove it" is convincing, rest your argument on it. Do you have any claim upon which that depends?
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
Stats. Lots and lots of stats, controlled for a million things. And history. And economics. And anthropology. Take a class or wiki it. I'm not here to hold ignorant hands. If you think "majority privilege doesn't exist, prove it" is convincing, rest your argument on it. Do you have any claim upon which that depends?
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I asked you a question do not jump to ignorant conclusions. Science is science and if you do not want to back it then you are the one being ignorant. I am not going to make your argument for you. Its just that your assertion would have been a lot more effective with the actually evidence instead of just a claim.

You were bold enough to say that something is "A scientific fact." yet you cannot even raise a finger to back it?

No one is going to take you serious making such a bold claim then running away from it.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

FreedomFromAll said:
I asked you a question do not jump to ignorant conclusions. Science is science and if you do not want to back it then you are the one being ignorant. I am not going to make your argument for you. Its just that your assertion would have been a lot more effective with the actually evidence instead of just a claim.

You were bold enough to say that something is "A scientific fact." yet you cannot even raise a finger to back it?

No one is going to take you serious making such a bold claim then running away from it.
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And I said look it up. I'm not giving a lecture. Don't cry.

If your objection is sufficient to carry debate or even make a point (what is that?) then do so. I'm waiting.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
And I said look it up. I'm not giving a lecture. Don't cry.

If your objection is sufficient to carry debate or even make a point (what is that?) then do so. I'm waiting.
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If its a scientific fact then it should be pretty damn easy for you to give a damn link. A lot easier then squirming around with all these posts that you are currently making.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

FreedomFromAll said:
If its a scientific fact then it should be pretty damn easy for you to give a damn link. A lot easier then squirming around with all these posts that you are currently making.
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Do you have a point?
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
Do you have a point?
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DO not try to pin this on me. You claimed a scientific fact, prove it is indeed a scientific fact. The more that you evade a simply request the more that you claim seems empty. It was your claim, the way that it works in science is that when you make a claim that something is a scientific fact then it your burden to prove it. It is not my burden, you own it completely. [ffs I gave you a chance for a slam dunk in your argument, why are you fighting against it?]
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

FreedomFromAll said:
DO not try to pin this on me. You claimed a scientific fact, prove it is indeed a scientific fact. The more that you evade a simply request the more that you claim seems empty. It was your claim, the way that it works in science is that when you make a claim that something is a scientific fact then it your burden to prove it. It is not my burden, you own it completely. [ffs I gave you a chance for a slam dunk in your argument, why are you fighting against it?]
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I already told you. I'm not gonna prove it. No lectures tonight.

What I'm wondering is what that means to your argument or point. Or even what your argument or point is. If your only point herein is "Eco refuses to prove it's a scientific fact", then gratz. Awesome work. But there's no point.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

ecofarm said:
I already told you. I'm not gonna prove it. No lectures tonight.

What I'm wondering is what that means to your argument or point. Or even what your argument or point is. If your only point herein is "Eco refuses to prove it's a scientific fact", then gratz. Awesome work. But there's no point.
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I never asked for a lecture. I asked you specifically back this claim "Majority privilege is real. A scientific fact." It is clear that you cannot and will not even try. Therefor everyone reading this will see that it was just BS. You made a claim and failed a simple test of said claim. If thats where you want to leave your argument, then so be it. Im not going to make your argument so, dont expect me too. But Im fine with you failing to back your assertion, makes it easier for me to just say no I dont believe you.

Either knock of the games or debate, if you cannot debate then just stand there looking ignorant.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

I don't care whether straights march for their 'pride'. It shows a woeful misunderstanding of what gays actually claim to feel pride about, but its not especially harmful.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

btthegreat said:
It shows a woeful misunderstanding of what gays actually claim to feel pride about, but its not especially harmful.
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Of course it's harmful. It's supremacist. Gay parades are not supremacist.
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Captain Adverse said:
The essential idea is to allow non-violent freedom of expression for ALL viewpoints regardless of whether or not you agree with it; most especially if you don't agree. Else by limiting opposing expression you set a dangerous precedent which can eventually be used against you.

Meanwhile, these guys seem to be on a lark, or at worst testing the waters to see if our society is tilting too far to edge of totalitarian thought/speech controls.

So I say, let them be permitted and have their march. What say you?
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It is an outrage.
How dare they place in on the very same day I had planned for my "Attractive people with low BMI" pride parade?
 
Re: "Group's plans to hold 'straight pride' parade in Boston." Do you support a permit or not?

Of course, those people should be permitted to march.

Everybody has a right to make a fool of him-, herself.
 
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