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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Lunaphiles View Post
    I can go on and on describing the steps. I am wondering why you allow your remark to make it appear that you didn't realize that it is complicated, as to, generating and then validating the referendum choices for the referendum ballot??? Do you have you any ideas as to how we determine what the choices are???

    How do you think legislators would do it for you?
    I was thinking of a vote as to whether to remove the statues from their respective positions. A "yes" vote means that the statue will be torn down and the city government will decide things from there. A "no" vote means that the statue will stay up. If a city has more than one statue, then it should be one measure per statue.

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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Lunaphiles View Post
    Putin
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    and, me, have this One World Order thing all worked out.

    We got the Illuminati to help us, too.

    You, and the rest of you, Debate Politics asshats, will be executed upon a full trial that will have this thread to present as evidence of your complete stupidity and uselessness to humanity.

    You will die!!!

    YOU WILL DIE!!! MOTHER ****ERS!!! YOU WILL DIE!!!!

    !!!ALLAH AKHABAR!!!
    What a goofy post. I've not seen you here before under that handle. So...you're just pretending to be nuts, right?
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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Omega Man View Post
    I'm game. How about you? Or would you prefer to continue confirming personal biases by way of argumentum ad nauseam? You can always create another thread.
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    The primary problem is gathering the people to participate, and then generating the rules that will graduate issues and arguments.

    The founding of Debate Politics was based on the mission to do so, but they lost interest, probably because they had limited ideas for rules once they got sufficient membership - its some difficult stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by Schweddy View Post
    We originally thought that three groups (Liberals, Independents, and Conservatives) would each have their own forum with the caveat that each could view and comment on each others threads unrestricted and still allow for agreement within their own ideology. For example - a Conservative could only post in a Conservative forum, but *reply* to a Liberal thread. We volleyed back and forth on ideas. He is an Independent and I am a very strict Conservative.
    The founders only had one simple formula for organizing government, and a relatively limited supply of paper, ink, endurance; and basically, parameters of simple designs that would engage the few literate citizens of 1787. We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people and technology that the founders could not gather.

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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    I suggest that instead of fighting the consensus definition and trying to define atheism as a political ideology, you debate over whether its reasonable to not believe in God, whether its reasonable to believe he doesn't exist, whether an anti-religious political ideology is reasonable, or whether most people who don't believe in God hold an anti-religious political ideology.
    That is some serious gobble-de-guk. Maybe that seems worth while to you, but you are not going to get anywhere without rules. just saying, "Let's have a real debate," is not going to organize a "real debate."

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    Instead of debating the meaning of words all the time, lets have a real debate of ideas and ensure that at least we understand the ideas other people are referring to when they are using words.
    Yeah, "let's have a real debate of ideas and ensure that at least we understand the ideas other people are referring to when they are using words." That means we have to agree to the terms that are going to be discussed, and I can guarantee you that any well organized debate, "real debate," is going to have rules concerning the definitions of words used in the debate.

    Get real.
    The founders only had one simple formula for organizing government, and a relatively limited supply of paper, ink, endurance; and basically, parameters of simple designs that would engage the few literate citizens of 1787. We need to have a constitutional convention that gathers the diversity of people and technology that the founders could not gather.

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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prof_Lunaphiles View Post
    That is some serious gobble-de-guk. Maybe that seems worth while to you, but you are not going to get anywhere without rules. just saying, "Let's have a real debate," is not going to organize a "real debate."


    Yeah, "let's have a real debate of ideas and ensure that at least we understand the ideas other people are referring to when they are using words." That means we have to agree to the terms that are going to be discussed, and I can guarantee you that any well organized debate, "real debate," is going to have rules concerning the definitions of words used in the debate.

    Get real.
    We don't have to agree on our terms. As long as I understand what you mean when you use your personal terms and you understand what I and everyone else mean by our terms, then we can communicate. I lack belief in God and I don't hold any belief that God doesn't exist or any anti-religious political ideology. We can debate these ideas and just leave out the atheism label completely for convenience. I don't really care which of these ideals you choose to label atheist, all I care about is that we can debate the ideas behind these labels even if we disagree on labels.

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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Quote Originally Posted by distraff View Post
    We don't have to agree on our terms. As long as I understand what you mean when you use your personal terms and you understand what I and everyone else mean by our terms, then we can communicate. I lack belief in God and I don't hold any belief that God doesn't exist or any anti-religious political ideology. We can debate these ideas and just leave out the atheism label completely for convenience. I don't really care which of these ideals you choose to label atheist, all I care about is that we can debate the ideas behind these labels even if we disagree on labels.
    Seems reasonable to me.
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    Of course we can. I solved the deficit problem about a hundred times over. Shame the little piggies don't listen.

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    Re: Can We Resolve Social Issues Using Internet Forums?

    Are 31,000 people really going effect 380m? Not statistically.
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