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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    I don't get your point, if there is one. That timeline puts the responsibility for stopping Russian intervention squarely on Obama's shoulders. Most of it happened prior to the change of power. Best you read it again to educate yourself, if it's possible for you to do that.
    You haven't read it obviously... never-mind, I won't waste any more time on trying to educate you to any facts.

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by HumblePi View Post
    "nasty business".....seriously that's all you consider Russia's attempts to modify, change, and interject themselves and their own agenda into our United States democratic election?? "nasty business" ???

    wow, just wow
    I don't find you grounded enough to carry this conversation on any further. Have a nice easter.

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    I don't get your point, if there is one. That timeline puts the responsibility for stopping Russian intervention squarely on Obama's shoulders. Most of it happened prior to the change of power. Best you read it again to educate yourself, if it's possible for you to do that.
    It is strange how the lad is suddenly outraged about Russian attempts at interfering in elections, considering that they have been doing such since the Bolshevik Revolution.
    Democrats were for the border wall before they were against it!

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by ObamacareFail View Post
    It is strange how the lad is suddenly outraged about Russian attempts at interfering in elections, considering that they have been doing such since the Bolshevik Revolution.
    If you are referring to the many, many times we have interfered in Russian elections and politics, then yes, it is difficult for me to get outraged at the Russians for doing the same thing we routinely do everywhere in the world; and have done so over many decades.

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Serious question, wouldn’t sanctuary cities be the safest/best place for them? How is it not a win win?
    I suppose. But how in the world do you isolate that germ? SF and the other fruits and nuts in their voting neighborhoods have shown they just don't understand or care about the rest of the nations' concern. I don't think we could count on support for lassoing it up in and to the state of California. They seem so willing to disregard the expectation to obey any federal law, that at this point I wonder of their value to the Union.
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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    If you are referring to the many, many times we have interfered in Russian elections and politics, then yes, it is difficult for me to get outraged at the Russians for doing the same thing we routinely do everywhere in the world; and have done so over many decades.
    Waddy, it would be helpful to know your definition of many. My own idea be one, a couple, a few, then perhaps many. Where does many fit into that scenario? Can you at least provide one or more times(proven) that we have attempted to interfere with a Russian election? Better yet, other than the in play revolution, even one time the United States has done anything like that?
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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    No, it's not. I don't like the idea of using people as tools of political revenge.
    Helping illegals go to sanctuary cities is an act of revenge? What if they want to go there? Where else can they go?

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by concernedpuma View Post
    Waddy, it would be helpful to know your definition of many. My own idea be one, a couple, a few, then perhaps many. Where does many fit into that scenario? Can you at least provide one or more times(proven) that we have attempted to interfere with a Russian election? Better yet, other than the in play revolution, even one time the United States has done anything like that?
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    Here's a little light reading for you. And thanks for asking that question in a civil manner. As for the US meddling in Russia, we have a long history of direct and indirect meddling, the type we would NEVER allow.

    What many Russians, but few Americans, know is that 20 years before Russia tried to swing an American presidential election, America tried to swing a presidential election in Russia. The year was 1996. Boris Yeltsin was seeking a second term, and Bill Clinton desperately wanted to help. “I want this guy to win so bad,” he told Deputy Secretary of State Strobe Talbott, “it hurts.” ..... So the Clinton administration sprang into action. It lobbied the International Monetary Fund to give Russia a $10 billion loan, some of which Yeltsin distributed to woo voters. Upon arriving in a given city, he often announced, “My pockets are full.” ....Three American political consultants—including Richard Dresner, a veteran of Clinton’s campaigns in Arkansas—went to work on Yeltsin’s election bid. ......Thomas Graham, who served as the chief political analyst at the U.S. embassy in Moscow during the campaign, later conceded that Clinton officials knew the election wasn’t truly fair. “This was a classic case,” he admitted, “of the ends justifying the means.”
    The U.S. Has a Long History of Election Meddling - The Atlantic

    In the period from 1917 to 1933, such interference was extreme on both sides. In 1918, President Woodrow Wilson sent approximately 8,000 US troops to Siberia to fight against the “Reds” in the Russian Civil War. ...... During the 1990s, under the banner of “democracy promotion,” there was a virtual American political invasion of Russia. Washington openly supported, politically and financially, the pro-American faction in Russian politics, as did American mainstream media coverage. US government and foundation funding went to desirable Russian NGOs. And the Clinton administration lent ample support, again political and financial, to President Boris Yeltsin’s desperate and ultimately successful reelection .....Until more restrictive Russian laws were passed, US funding continued to go to Russian media and NGOs perceived to be in US interests. Hillary Clinton felt free in 2011 to publicly criticize Russian elections, and, the same year, then–Vice President Joseph Biden, while visiting Moscow, advised Putin not to return to the presidency. (Imagine Putin today advising Biden as to whether or not to seek the US presidency.)
    The Long History of US-Russian ‘Meddling’ | The Nation

    And we are the global leader in the meddling in the elections of foreign nations. There isn't even a close second. This WIKI page lists just the elections we have interfered with; it does not count the many, many regime changes, assassinations, and other forms of meddling.

    One study indicated that the country intervening in most foreign elections is the United States with 81 interventions, followed by Russia (including the former Soviet Union) with 36 interventions from 1946 to 2000 - an average of once in every nine competitive elections.[2][3][4][5]
    Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

    I gave you snippets here; read the full articles. Our hands are FAR from clean on this. We are being quite hypocritical.
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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    Quote Originally Posted by Waddy View Post
    Here's a little light reading for you. And thanks for asking that question in a civil manner. As for the US meddling in Russia, we have a long history of direct and indirect meddling, the type we would NEVER allow.



    The U.S. Has a Long History of Election Meddling - The Atlantic



    The Long History of US-Russian ‘Meddling’ | The Nation

    And we are the global leader in the meddling in the elections of foreign nations. There isn't even a close second. This WIKI page lists just the elections we have interfered with; it does not count the many, many regime changes, assassinations, and other forms of meddling.



    Foreign electoral intervention - Wikipedia

    I gave you snippets here; read the full articles. Our hands are FAR from clean on this. We are being quite hypocritical.
    Bill Clinton applied democrat tactics to try to help Yeltsin win the Russian election? I believe it. They gave borrowed government money to the crooks running for election to spread around in crafty giveaway schemes among the illiterates in order to buy their votes without them knowing it. Such tactics have worked in liberal political circles in America for decades.

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    Re: Is relocating illegal immigrants to sanctuary cities/states a good idea?

    I think Trump is starting to realize how much it would actually take to deport roughly 10 million people, especially when there are only 20,000 ICE agents.

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