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Topless Teacher Demands $3 million from School District- What's Your Opinion?

Should Lauren Miranda collect $3 million from the school district she used to work for?

  • Yes, pay her $3 million

    Votes: 17 34.7%

  • No, don't pay her $3 million

    Votes: 14 28.6%

  • Other- I'll explain

    Votes: 9 18.4%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 3 6.1%

  • I'm going to have to do more 'research' by seeing the topless picture, before I can decide anything

    Votes: 6 12.2%
  • Total voters
    49
She’ll win, he’ll get locked up, and the kid will get expelled for 10 days play video games, lay about, smoke weed while loppin’ his mule.
 
Yes, gender discrimination. The topside of a woman is still being made extra special to those of a man. A man would never be fired for topless pictures but because, mostly men, go nuts when they see a woman's top, she needs to be fired?

I am not sure about the amount, but compensation is owed IMHO. She did not release the picture. These were not public pictures meant for anybody except the one whom she was in a relationship with.

The amount of 3 million seems way too much, but this was indeed not something she had any hand in, it is not insulting, there weren't nudes, you just saw her boobs, big ****ing deal.
 
truthatallcost said:
A Teacher Is Fired Over a Topless Selfie, Stirring a Debate Over Gender Equity - The New York Times

Despite this being framed as a 'gender equality issue' by the plaintiff's lawyer, I see it as an attempt to shakedown a school district for a large sum of money. We're constantly told today that employers have the right to fire employees if they engage in conduct outside of the parameters of acceptable behavior recognized by the employer. This reasoning has been used quite often in recent years, to terminate employment over distasteful social media posts, attending political rallies, and even in cases of supporting the BDS movement.

I say this was Ms Miranda's mistake, and if she wishes to sue somebody for her mistake, she should sue the male teacher who shared the topless picture with students. His behavior was beyond immature and stupid.

What do you think? Should Lauren Miranda collect $3 million from the school district she used to work for? I say no.
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This teacher was screwed. She should get her job back and a reasonable settlement from the school system, not 3 million. However, she should sue those responsible for 3 million for the text winding up in student's hands and the subsequent events happening to her afterward.
 
Nap said:
I think 3 Million is rather ridiculous, but at the very least she should get her job back with back pay and some extra for her time/lawyer costs etc. I agree with the earlier poster that the man should have been fired and investigated over distributing the picture to minors.
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As I said earlier, suing for three million means that you'll probably be able to be offered an out of court settlement around a quarter million.
Even if it goes to trial, suing for three million helps ensure that your actual award will be pretty decent, even though nowhere near the original figure.

Aim high.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
As I said earlier, suing for three million means that you'll probably be able to be offered an out of court settlement around a quarter million.
Even if it goes to trial, suing for three million helps ensure that your actual award will be pretty decent, even though nowhere near the original figure.

Aim high.
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I got no problem asking for that much, hell aim for 50 billion for all I care. I was merely saying a 3 million judgement would be rather ridiculous if it were to come down that way.
 
She is certainly entitled to return to her job without prejudice, full back pay, and a punitive monetary award.

In some states revenge porn is illegal. Her lawyers should look into that.
 
truthatallcost said:
A Teacher Is Fired Over a Topless Selfie, Stirring a Debate Over Gender Equity - The New York Times

Despite this being framed as a 'gender equality issue' by the plaintiff's lawyer, I see it as an attempt to shakedown a school district for a large sum of money. We're constantly told today that employers have the right to fire employees if they engage in conduct outside of the parameters of acceptable behavior recognized by the employer. This reasoning has been used quite often in recent years, to terminate employment over distasteful social media posts, attending political rallies, and even in cases of supporting the BDS movement.

I say this was Ms Miranda's mistake, and if she wishes to sue somebody for her mistake, she should sue the male teacher who shared the topless picture with students. His behavior was beyond immature and stupid.

What do you think? Should Lauren Miranda collect $3 million from the school district she used to work for? I say no.
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Red:
To the extent the employer in question is a private entity, it (it's managers) have imprimatur to dismiss employees who transgress the standards the firm sets for itself and its personnel. That's so too for governmental employers, but in a different way: governmental employers may only dismiss employees who violate the government's (as a whole and the specific governmental entity for which one works) clearly stated publicly viewable ethical guidelines (where allowed -- NY does not allow its ethical code of ethics for educators to be used as a basis for disciplinary actions) and legal standards.

Were Ms. Miranda to have taken and publicly rather than privately distributed the images involved, sure, firing her would be apropos. Taking the image and providing it to the person whom she at the time dated is not such a behavior. It certainly doesn't transcend any governmental ethical standards.


Blue:
That guy is merely a party, not the party, whom she should sue.
 
Moderate Right said:
This teacher was screwed. She should get her job back and a reasonable settlement from the school system, not 3 million. However, she should sue those responsible for 3 million for the text winding up in student's hands and the subsequent events happening to her afterward.
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I'm guessing that her ex bf doesn't have 3 million to transfer to Ms Miranda, so she's suing the school district instead. I've never liked the idea of using tax payer money to settle a lawsuit, especially one as silly as this.

Dating a co-worker is usually a bad idea, in my experience, and in this case, it may be the tax payers who are punished for it. That isn't progress, imo.
 
americanwoman said:
1. I just can't with that messy floor, forget the boobs I want to go clean her room!

2. An adult should know better than to put her face in the pic but still not her fault someone shared it.
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I gave you a like for #1, but I have to disagree with your #2. Although it was a jerk move to share the topless photo with students, the female teacher should have known that the picture could end up in the wrong hands. Multiple guys have been fired for sending dick pics with female coworkers, who went on to claim harassment. Half of the on air staff at Fox lost their jobs this way!
 
Risky Thicket said:
But, soon after they got fired at Fox News Trump hired most of them. Hey, maybe she can get a job working in the White House. :lamo
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She has the looks for Fox. Part of me wants the school district to give her her old job back, because I know what it's like to be a 13 year old boy, and she would be the highlight of her male student's day.
 
truthatallcost said:
I'm guessing that her ex bf doesn't have 3 million to transfer to Ms Miranda, so she's suing the school district instead. I've never liked the idea of using tax payer money to settle a lawsuit, especially one as silly as this.

Dating a co-worker is usually a bad idea, in my experience, and in this case, it may be the tax payers who are punished for it. That isn't progress, imo.
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If she is the one who sent the text to the student then she should be fired. If someone else sent the text then she should not lose her job and that is apparently the case. The school over reacted and they should be forced to hire her back at back pay.
 
Moderate Right said:
If she is the one who sent the text to the student then she should be fired. If someone else sent the text then she should not lose her job and that is apparently the case. The school over reacted and they should be forced to hire her back at back pay.
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Agreed. God knows the crap that goes on in schools. Teachers are among the most deserving workers in America. They are overworked and underpaid. For the life of me, I cannot understand why they continue to show up and work day after day, year after year. It's a **** job. Really awful.

Once - only once - I lost my mind and served on a school board. What the hell was I thinking?

Early on I decided that hands on knowledge would help me understand more from the teacher's perspective. I substituted in several schools. If anyone would really like to have a better perspective of what teachers, students, and administrators face every day try substituting. You'll have to jump through a few small hoops to be qualified. The requirements aren't much.

Teachers are asked and expected to do wonderful things with limited resources. The work is grinding and continues long after the final bell at the end of the students' day.

One teacher called her paycheck "the final insult". I couldn't argue with that and wouldn't argue with it today.

Teachers are human. They are not miracle workers. They aren't psychiatrists. They are not law enforcement officers. They are not religious leaders. They are not babysitters. They are not saints, though they may be saviors. They are human.

I believe the teacher in question made an honest mistake.

Were I on the school board in a closed session reviewing the teacher in the OP, given the facts that we have I'd recommend to retain her.
 
Cardinal said:
"In a letter provided to The Times, the superintendent said that among the reasons he was recommending Ms. Miranda’s termination was that she “caused, allowed, or otherwise made it possible” for an inappropriate photo to be distributed to students."

Insofar as I can tell from the the information available in the article, it would seem that her misbehavior amounted to having breasts and dating a coworker who, I can only assume, engaged in a form of revenge porn after they broke up. And does this coworker face any disciplinary action? The article doesn't say, but I think it's safe to say that fact would appear somewhere in the article if he did.

I doubt she'll get the full 3 million, but she definitely has a case and I'd be surprised if she lost. The superintendent will be compelled to explain what, exactly, her preventative actions should have been, and that I'd love to hear him say out loud in court with a straight face.
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I am willing to bet it will be something along the lines of "don't take and then send nudes".

Mind you, I think this is obvious wrongful termination, and the male teacher should have been hammered, but it's hardly as if "having breasts" is what they fired her for.
 
Probably. Regardless, I would be a fool to protest against her act of toplessness.
 
Abbazorkzog said:
For some reason this is how I read the last statement of your post.
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HAR HAR!! :lamo

No I said that one needs to AIM HIGH when suing someone for damages, because if you want a quarter million or something like that, you'd better sue for three million, because the judge will probably knock the award down to a fraction of what you sued for...more often than not.

So be sure to make your aim for the lights above the bleachers...AIM HIGH.

I might get high tonight, wifey got some good weed and I have not partaken in months.
 
1. Generally, I personally set a fairly high bar for employers trying to discipline employees for conduct off the premises, off the clock and out of uniform. I prefer employers to recognize that I have a private life and if I am not being paid, not on company land or wearing company cloths, I want to be free of the constraints of my employer. I want to be able to get high, get into a bar fight, march in a political protest, and put what I want on my facebook page or in my yard. If they want me be to consider their feelings, they need to pay me for the time I am supposed to considering their feelings.

But I do see that when you are a public employee, especially a teacher, or a cop, you have to be a little more circumspect and little more careful because what you do off the clock can have huge implications for the school district or the city, especially what you say or write. This is just a topless photo legally created and legally transferred to a third party, no children will be psychologically damaged learning that Miss Jones has breasts. No defense attorney can use it to get their defendant off. This woman did nothing damaging or illegal and had no intention or thought that students would be their hands on this.

2. I think we are far to prudish about those mammory organs. I think society should treat a man's chest like a woman's chest.
 
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give her her job back thats all. fire the teacher that shared that with the kids
 
I have words for both sides. I think its ridiculous that someone spread nude pictures of her without her knowledge and then her being fired for it. She should not have been fired and she should get her job back.

Second, stop taking and sending nude pics to other people, its almost a given this will happen
 
marke said:
Here is another wicked democrat whorish woman barbarian seeking to extort taxpayer money with the help of crooked lawyers, crooked judges, and crooked policies.
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LOL, as if any more proof of being a troll is needed
 
What an idiot...


For some reason, 20 and 30 somethings appear to have a mental block against comprehending how easily information (and pictures) get around the Internet...
 
truthatallcost said:
We're constantly told today that employers have the right to fire employees if they engage in conduct outside of the parameters of acceptable behavior recognized by the employer.
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So what about being a teacher makes sending your boyfriend a topless photograph unnacceptable conduct? The problem wasn't her conduct it was the conduct of whoever released the photo. I mean if I'm having sex and someone secretly films it and publishes it on the internet can I be fired for that? I didn't commit a crime, the person who filmed me did.

truthatallcost said:
I say this was Ms Miranda's mistake, and if she wishes to sue somebody for her mistake, she should sue the male teacher who shared the topless picture with students. His behavior was beyond immature and stupid.
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She likely could sue that man as well, but ultimately that piece of **** didn't make the decision to fire her. The school district did that. They punished her for the crime that a man committed. As if somehow she's the bad person just for sending a naughty picture of herself to a boyfriend. There's nothing wrong with what she did. She's the victim here, but the school district is still blaming her for it.

truthatallcost said:
Should Lauren Miranda collect $3 million from the school district she used to work for? I say no.
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A couple things to understand here. One, she's not actually walking out of this with $3 million dollars even if she wins. A large chunk of that funding will go to her lawyers and to other legal fees. Second, now that a big spectral has been made of this isn't going to be very difficult for her to ever find work in her profession again. Her life is almost certainly damaged long term as a result of this. Now you can debate whether or no $3 million is what she deserves, but certainly she is the victim of both the school district at the ****ty ex-boyfriend.
 
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