Redeeming Trump Qualities.

Smartmouthwoman said:

If you can vote for pro abortion candidates if the pro abortion party while swearing youre anti abortion, that's between you and God.

Assuming you believe in God.. most liberals don't.

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Logician Man said:

link to support your claim ' most liberals don't believe in a God'

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Smartmouthwoman said:

My opinion, based on personal experience. Gonna tell me you sing in the choir?

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Logician Man said:

claim dismissed due to lack of credible, factual evidence....that was extremely easy...class dismissed....moving on....

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Smartmouthwoman said:

Dont blame you... run away!!!

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tecoyah said:

Listed above are qualities I woud hope to see in a leader...any leader. Please indicate those you see in Donald Trump.

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Smartmouthwoman said:

My opinion, based on personal experience. Gonna tell me you sing in the choir?

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Nickyjo said:

Thanks for your thoughtful response. Have been to the South frequently, though mainly Louisiana, where my son is in school and where my nephew was married to a southern gal. Think of this: her family had mixed race relatives, they did the wedding at a plantation and the wedding party, including the young black guys, were dressed in Confederate uniforms with stars and bars on their sleeves. Wouldn’t happen now, I presume. To top it off, my wife and I stayed in cabins near the plantation house, in remodeled shacks that were slave dwellings. The managers had an exhibit on slavery and its cruelties.

As to the NAACP banner about lynching, it was race neutral. What struck me about the phenomenon was that the number of white people lynched in, say Mississippi, was more than the total lynched in the entire northeast and mid-Atlantic combined, if I remember the stats correctly. Lynching was mainly a racist phenomenon, but what in the culture of southern states accounted for the lynching of so many whites? I can’t imagine the courts were lenient. Interesting book on the subject by the way, is “At the Hands of Persons Unknown,” which was the phrase the coroners often put as the cause of death.

As to the gerrymandering, I think it was a court in the area of NC that stated that in its decision, not the 9th Circuit. The 9th is indeed a liberal circuit. Years ago in the 80s, I used to evaluate and issue opinions on asylum claims for Amnesty International and joked that if I were advising Salvadoran and Guatemalan refugees I would tell them to run to the 9th to avoid the terrible asylum decisions under Reagan that would get overturned there, tho to be fair, other circuits did that as well.

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Amelia said:

Has anyone come up with a redeeming Trump quality yet?

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concernedpuma said:

You are rare. I appreciate your post whenever you reply. You are thoughtful and considerate, but still liberal. I am glad you visit the south. We have a hard time throwing off the aged mantle of racism. I am sure there are bigots here, in fact I know some. I do have to mention that some of the most vociferous bigots come from up north. I don't know why that is. Maybe they think the are traveling to Race hating Mecca, but they are are wasting a trip. The south I know is inclusive and anxious to move forward with our neighbors, regardless of their race or religion.
Regards,
CP

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Nickyjo said:

Thanks for your kind words. The old phrase I heard from the 60s about the differences in regions was that in the South, whites didn't care how close blacks got, so long as they didn't get political power. In the North, whites didn't care how much political power blacks got, so long as they didn't get close. Thus despite segregation, there might have been more black-white interactions and friendships within the social limits of the time in the South than in the North. If memory serves, reports were that Willie Mays had trouble finding housing when the Giants moved to San Francisco. Willie ****ing Mays!!

But there was this sense by self-satisfied folks like us in the North that the South was alien, hostile territory. Sad example: Jerry Lewis said at the height of the bitterness over civil right struggles, that he fulfilled a lifetime ambition by using the toilet while the plane was flying over Mississippi. Funny example: my folks lived in Baltimore, where I was born in the 1940s. Later on, speaking to me of that time, my mother, in the innocence of a first generation Italian's observations, said she couldnt understand why blacks couldn't be served in the restaurants, since all the people in the kitchen preparing the food were black.

In California where I live, I still remember proposition 14 from the early 1960s that repealed fair housing legislation and said that none could be passed in Sacramento without another plebiscite. (It was declared unconstitutional.) One of our now most diverse cities, one that advertises its mix of ethnicities, San Leandro, was one of the bastions of housing segregation. One great change I have noticed: there now seems to be little if any resentment over mixed-race marriages, what was considered the ultimate taboo when I was a kid.

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VanceMack said:

If you are looking for reasons to or why Conservatives support Trump, then the following trumps all else...

Supreme Court Justice Neil Gorsuch
Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh
The potential of at least 1 and maybe 2 more Supreme Court nominees during the current term
Plus
Record low unemployment in black American communities
Record low unemployment in Latino American communities
Record low unemployment for women.
Record high opportunities for business startups groeth, and expansion.
Record low unemployment figures across the board.
Sustained economic growth with high GDP%s
Return of manufacturing jobs in the US which the previous administration insisted were lost for good.
additionally
Attempts to correct trade imbalances that have been created for many decades
Attempts to reduce the nuclear threat in peace negotiations with North Korea

All this while fighting a collection of mindless idiot leftists in congress and an inept republican congress.

I didnt vote for Trump. I wont vote for him regardless of who runs in 2020. However my opinion of him is similar to that of my opinion of Bill Clinton. Dood has the morals of a ****ing sewer rat...but I want to see him successful for the good of the country. Anyone that doesnt is just a ****ing moron in my book.

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LouC said:

Your "opinion" based on "personal experience".

Yeah.

That is so much BS all wrapped up in one little 6 word sentence, it is to die laughing at! :lamo

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Smartmouthwoman said:

How you feeling about President Trump now? Have you posted an apology yet?

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