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Do we need Term Limits in the US Congress/

TheRepublican said:
So let me ask you this why did we have term limits? It’s funny how the democrats postponed the vote because the speaker already knows that if this bill gets to the desk of her best friend. Then she is done! She doesn’t want the bill to be voted on. Honestly I would like to get the United States Supreme Court involve because this is a United States constitutional problem! What if it passes Nancy Pelosi will never respect it.
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Look at amendment 22nd section II and tell me is that dead because it’d be alive if Congress would wake up and, realize that Congress Is the one that’s abusing power. How? Running for re-election after you two years in house or six years in senate
 
Cephus said:
There should be no such thing as career politicians. Our founding fathers spoke out against such things and they were right. So long as these idiots are not in touch with the common people, they have no business being in charge.
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Really? You realize that there’s a such Of thing
 
Integrityrespec said:
Do we need term limits and if so what should be the limit?
No we don't need term limits.
We need term limits for two terms like the President.
We need term limits that total 12 years.
We need term limits that total 18 years.
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won't help
 
Integrityrespec said:
Do we need term limits and if so what should be the limit?
No we don't need term limits.
We need term limits for two terms like the President.
We need term limits that total 12 years.
We need term limits that total 18 years.
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We need to make it two terms across the board period because why do we have people who get re elected and people wake up and realize that they just wasted their vote on their politicians who did the same thing as the past 20 years or whatever
 
Moderate Right said:
The resistance is all that matters. In their minds, resisting Trump alone is good for the country. Trump was elected by voters because of their extreme hatred of the establishment of both sides.
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Are you pretending that Trump's election was 'the voice of the people'?
The mid-term congressional election was the voice of the people. The Presidential election is the voice of the States.
 
btthegreat said:
And that, sir will require you to amend the first Amendment of the US Constitution. I will let you figure out how you will define 'lobbying' without inhibiting the most valued kind of speech - political speech headed straight for our political leaders or our voters. We have had one hell of a time trying to structure a bill that would pass constitutional challenge. Then you get to cobble together the votes to get this amendment of yours passed .
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I should not need to explain what modern day lobbying is: Professional lobbyists. I already stated that lobbying is not what it used to be. Today lobbying is nothing more than corruption. This is not even a Constitutional issue at all other than how lobbying has corrupted it.

As far as "this amendment" and getting votes, I said nothing of the sort.
 
TheRepublican said:
So let me ask you this why did we have term limits? It’s funny how the democrats postponed the vote because the speaker already knows that if this bill gets to the desk of her best friend. Then she is done! She doesn’t want the bill to be voted on. Honestly I would like to get the United States Supreme Court involve because this is a United States constitutional problem! What if it passes Nancy Pelosi will never respect it.
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Unfortunately, American voters are typically dumb. They do not vote, or think, rationally. It's one of the reasons the whole country is in the mess it's in.
 
****, yes we do!
 
Integrityrespec said:
Do we need term limits and if so what should be the limit?
No we don't need term limits.
We need term limits for two terms like the President.
We need term limits that total 12 years.
We need term limits that total 18 years.
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Yes we do or at least a 5 year waiting period after serving a couple terms. You serve two terms as senator or two terms for the house of representatives and then you got to wait another five years before you can run again for any office or five years before you can be appointed to any office. This would make it hard for someone to serve as a career politician and they can't easily bounce from one office to another.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I should not need to explain what modern day lobbying is: Professional lobbyists. I already stated that lobbying is not what it used to be. Today lobbying is nothing more than corruption. This is not even a Constitutional issue at all other than how lobbying has corrupted it.

As far as "this amendment" and getting votes, I said nothing of the sort.
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Modern day lobbying is just paid advocacy. People get paid to represent the interests of an organized group or institution. Its still speech directed at our govt officials or speech through our public officials. Now I would like to rein it in, as much as you would but courts keeps striking down any effective reform as a restriction on first amendment rights. We are stuck in a trap that only an amendment can release us from.
 
Grand Mal said:
Are you pretending that Trump's election was 'the voice of the people'?
The mid-term congressional election was the voice of the people. The Presidential election is the voice of the States.
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And the 2010 midterms were the voice of the people up to and eventually including the presidency, the US Senate, and the US house, not to mention 2/3's of the states governorships and state legislatures. Do you agree that after 6 years of Democrats under Obama that voters wanted Democrats gone?
 
btthegreat said:
Modern day lobbying is just paid advocacy. People get paid to represent the interests of an organized group or institution. Its still speech directed at our govt officials or speech through our public officials. Now I would like to rein it in, as much as you would but courts keeps striking down any effective reform as a restriction on first amendment rights. We are stuck in a trap that only an amendment can release us from.
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I am by no means advocating any 1st Amendment restrictions. There certainly are laws though, that restrict speech in certain specific situations. One of those situations is the speech of government officials (elected or otherwise) dealing with corruption. The method here would be to deal with corruption not speech. Things like bribery, extortion, etc are not allowed because of the 1st Amendment, therefor the corruption that is inherent in modern lobbying should be enacted against using existing laws. The problem really is that lobbying is something that politicians seem to want to protect out of love of their own financial gain.
 
Xelor said:
Do we need Term Limits in the US Congress?
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No...

TheRepublican said:
Explain
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Red:
I don't know who you think you are, but you don't get to summarily demand of me an explanation for my direct and clear answer to the thread question and, in turn, expect that I'll respond substantively/topically to your demand.

I don't expect you to be formal, but I expect you to solicit things from me in a polite fashion....some way other than a command/demand.
 
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Yeah, right, we need term limits;....... that way, on a regular basis, a new set of greedy jerks can make their fortunes off the American taxpayer. How many of these people ON BOTH SIDES go to Congress well off to begin with and over their "careers" become multi-millionaires? They put Martha Stewart in prison for trading on insider information because it's illegal for you or me to do that --- but it's totally legal for Congressmen to make money from insider trading. As I've stated before, we no longer live in a democracy; not for quite a while now.

the reason I like Donald Trump is that he wasn't supposed to be there. NEITHER side thought he had a chance. The establishment hates him; and the establishment is both sides of the aisle, including the bureaucracy. He owes the establishment NOTHING. He's smart NOT to trust any of them. Donald Trump will be the last democratically elected leader we ever have in this country. We will never see another president that hasn't been rubber stamped by the elites. You think Barack Obama was elected by "the People"? He was chosen long before the election ever took place. As is the norm.
 
Mycroft said:
I think we do need limits, but I don't have any firm total in mind.

For a Senator, 2-3 terms sounds about right.

For a Representative, 3-4 sounds good.

Bottom line, we need to get rid of the Congressional careerists because they end up working more for the power and money and less working for the people and the country.
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I pretty much agree with you Mycroft.

You hear a lot of folks against term limits because they want experienced people to serve. Well that doesn't wash with me because there's a whole lot of ignoramuses serving today without term limits.


Washington is a very corrupted place. There is an old saying, "If you are around wet paint long enough you are bound to get some on you"

Our Constitution was written in a way that over 100 years ago a person with an 8th grade education could understand. The education provided to our youth over a 100 years ago is equivalent if not better than those who graduate from high school today. They certainly had a full understanding of our founding, first principles. Today they do not. And by the time they get to college completely ignorant, their minds of mush are a well plowed field to be brainwashed because the have not the skills of critical thinking nor the knowledge.

Restoring education to teach the Constitution, Civics 101 and term limits would be a blessing to this country.
 
TheRepublican said:
Really? When Pelosi speaks I have a hard time getting her point
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What does that have to do with term limits?

We get it, you're a liberal basher - MAGA and F. that caravan, am I right?
 
Waddy said:
Yeah, right, we need term limits;....... that way, on a regular basis, a new set of greedy jerks can make their fortunes off the American taxpayer. How many of these people ON BOTH SIDES go to Congress well off to begin with and over their "careers" become multi-millionaires? They put Martha Stewart in prison for trading on insider information because it's illegal for you or me to do that --- but it's totally legal for Congressmen to make money from insider trading. As I've stated before, we no longer live in a democracy; not for quite a while now.

the reason I like Donald Trump is that he wasn't supposed to be there. NEITHER side thought he had a chance. The establishment hates him; and the establishment is both sides of the aisle, including the bureaucracy. He owes the establishment NOTHING. He's smart NOT to trust any of them. Donald Trump will be the last democratically elected leader we ever have in this country. We will never see another president that hasn't been rubber stamped by the elites. You think Barack Obama was elected by "the People"? He was chosen long before the election ever took place. As is the norm.
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The president has to abide by the constitution of their terms but, whenever we were talking about congress which we are. We don’t have checks and balance for that
 
Cephus said:
There should be no such thing as career politicians. Our founding fathers spoke out against such things and they were right. So long as these idiots are not in touch with the common people, they have no business being in charge.
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However our founding fathers gave that decision making process over to "we the people" and it has been "we the people" who have created career politicians via reelection of multi term office holders.

Thankfully though, those founding fathers also gave "we the people" the power to amend that Constitution that they so carefully for their time crafted, which we did with the presidential term limits, and could do again with Congressional term limits.

I have always been a close Constitutionalist, in other words keeping close to the original text and intent, however there were obviously things the Founders got wrong.

I am thinking not having term limits for Congress in the original document was one of those things they got wrong.

Likely they never thought the men of this country would ever become so eager to make Congress a career?

I am
 
lurchadams said:
What does that have to do with term limits?

We get it, you're a liberal basher - MAGA and F. that caravan, am I right?
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She is a good example of why we have to enforce the terms limits
 
Grand Mal said:
You'd think so but if the Presidency is an entry-level position...
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The incompetence of Trump demonstrates that the Presidency should not be an entry level position.

Making a career of telling gullible people what they want to believe is a poor preparation for the presidency.
 
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