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Thread: What can the government force you to do?

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fledermaus View Post
    A. Aids, Hepatitis, Syphilis, Gonorrhea, etc.

    B. Insurance.
    A. Blood type mismatch.
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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Please read the scenarios below carefully before you respond to the poll. This centers around what form of punishment the government can impose upon you and to what extent they can hold you responsible for mistakes you have made.

    A.) If you caused a traffic accident and another person's life hung in the balance would it be acceptable for the government to force you the person who caused the traffic accident to donate blood against your will in order to save the victim of the car accident you caused?

    B.) If you caused a traffic accident and another person's life hung in the balance would it be acceptable for the government to force you the person who caused the traffic accident to pay for the ambulance ride to take the victim of the accident you caused to the hospital and cover whatever medical treatments were necessary to save that person's life?

    Which would be an acceptable thing for the government to do, and which one would not? Is it neither, both, or one or the other and why?
    A is a complete violation of bodily autonomy regardless of blood type compatibility.

    B happens quite often via litigation.
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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Your point being?
    And here I thought that Fled wouldn't have to spell it out for people...

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWonka View Post
    Please read the scenarios below carefully before you respond to the poll. This centers around what form of punishment the government can impose upon you and to what extent they can hold you responsible for mistakes you have made.

    A.) If you caused a traffic accident and another person's life hung in the balance would it be acceptable for the government to force you the person who caused the traffic accident to donate blood against your will in order to save the victim of the car accident you caused?

    B.) If you caused a traffic accident and another person's life hung in the balance would it be acceptable for the government to force you the person who caused the traffic accident to pay for the ambulance ride to take the victim of the accident you caused to the hospital and cover whatever medical treatments were necessary to save that person's life?

    Which would be an acceptable thing for the government to do, and which one would not? Is it neither, both, or one or the other and why?
    The problem with requiring to give blood (A) is that the police instantly then become judge and jury over who caused the accident, so that would never pass Constitutional rights states. Only a court can decide who caused an accident as a governmental decision. Police can only write a report or issue a ticket. Even if the person is arrested, that does not establish guilt - at least not by the Bill Of Rights.

    As for B, that's what lawsuits are for. I see nothing special about the petty ambulance bill for a major accident in which a person's "life hung in the balance." The ambulance will transport the person whether paid or not and it is very rare ambulance companies pursue unpaid transportation costs.

    So the answer is no to both, unless by "government" you mean a court judgment ruling the person owns ambulance fees.

    Why do so many Democrats want to erase the Bill of Rights?

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    I see both as perfectly acceptable. I see why people would have a problem with A as they're taking your body fluids, but at the end of the day I'm a realist. The person in question through negligence seriously endangered the life of someone else, and if they're compatible giving a little blood that they'll replenish naturally anyway is the least they can do. The second scenario is even more acceptable. Of course you should pay for the damage you caused.
    This....this is the type of crap that scares me.
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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    I would be on team "neither A nor B", assuming 'the government' means the federal government... These aren't Federal Government powers...

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by bearpoker View Post
    I voted for B. Covering the medical expenses would include the cost of blood transfusions, so option A wouldn't be necessary. Besides that, I don't like the idea of the Government telling me what to do with my body. At all.
    A would likely be too late since it must occur post criminal conviction or finding of civil liability.
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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    This....this is the type of crap that scares me.
    Boo hoo, you gave blood and saved a life you tried to take. Cry me a river with your melodrama.

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    I voted B. My objection to A has to do with religions that consider blood transfusions wrong for whatever reason.

    They are apparently more common than I had realized, and many of them would rather die than receive a transfusion (it happens regularly,) and wouldn't want to give one either.

    Holding someone financially liable for damage they've caused seems pretty straightforward.

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    Re: What can the government force you to do?

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    Boo hoo, you gave blood and saved a life you tried to take. Cry me a river with your melodrama.
    And doing that stuff voluntarily is wonderful and all... But unconstitutional government compulsion??

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