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    Re: Will the Mueller report find that Trump worked with the Russians to "steal" the 2016 Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    LOL First of all the Mueller investigation has been going for 18 months and in that short time has netted 192 criminal charges, 36 indictments or guilty pleas, and 4 prison sentences. The Benghazi investigation lasted 2 years and 4 months and netted ZERO. If you want to discuss on this board try not to lie so much, you are not Trump.

    Can I make a couple of points?

    1) 192 Charges doe not have any Americans Colluding or plotting or working together with RUSSIANS. NOT a single American has been charged with interfering with the Elections. The crimes being charged are not in relation to the Initial titled scope dictated by the order of the Acting AG Rosenstien to Muller.

    2) The Benghazi Investigation went 2 years and had ZERO indictments. Are you NOT concerned? 4 Americans LOST their life, 1 of which was an ambassador for the highest ranking official to lose their life and NOT a single person was held accountable for this? You are Telling me. That this specific Situation was handle perfectly and the loss of life was just chance happening? There was NO failures in the systems?

    2a) While I have conceded that the Hearing was intended to damage HRC for her Presidential bid (I had a long discussion in another thread) The facts at hand question at least the due process that if an action in question is considered a crime, it should at least be adjudicated and finalized by a court so that it would not be an issue. If HRC was Not guilty of anything further and her defense was good enough, why would they not allow it to got to court to let it get adjudicate in her favor? Because the AG refused to prosecute and took the odd step to take the FBI's recommendations to not prosecute.


    Imagine THIS... After Mueller is Done he releases his finding. THE Current AG who ever it it says. I will NOT prosecute....... The Left would lose their MINDS!!!! (in all fairness what the right did already)
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    Re: Will the Mueller report find that Trump worked with the Russians to "steal" the 2016 Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by Exactice View Post
    Can I make a couple of points?

    1) 192 Charges doe not have any Americans Colluding or plotting or working together with RUSSIANS. NOT a single American has been charged with interfering with the Elections. The crimes being charged are not in relation to the Initial titled scope dictated by the order of the Acting AG Rosenstien to Muller.

    2) The Benghazi Investigation went 2 years and had ZERO indictments. Are you NOT concerned? 4 Americans LOST their life, 1 of which was an ambassador for the highest ranking official to lose their life and NOT a single person was held accountable for this? You are Telling me. That this specific Situation was handle perfectly and the loss of life was just chance happening? There was NO failures in the systems?

    2a) While I have conceded that the Hearing was intended to damage HRC for her Presidential bid (I had a long discussion in another thread) The facts at hand question at least the due process that if an action in question is considered a crime, it should at least be adjudicated and finalized by a court so that it would not be an issue. If HRC was Not guilty of anything further and her defense was good enough, why would they not allow it to got to court to let it get adjudicate in her favor? Because the AG refused to prosecute and took the odd step to take the FBI's recommendations to not prosecute.


    Imagine THIS... After Mueller is Done he releases his finding. THE Current AG who ever it it says. I will NOT prosecute....... The Left would lose their MINDS!!!! (in all fairness what the right did already)
    1. All in good time. There are many good reasons to believe Trump had a conspiracy with the Russians to influence the election. Just because you don't care is not Muellers fault. I was addressing your false claim that "Mueller has nothing" and the investigation has been going on for over 2 years. Those were BOTH blatantly false and leads me to believe you don't care what Mueller finds in fact you hope it will be covered up to save Trump. That is just plain despicable for any American. BTW Mueller is authorized to pursue ANY crimes he may come across during his investigation of Russian interference. Manaforts crimes concern money received from Russian interests and is certainly within the scope of his powers. Have you ever even wondered what possessed Trump to appoint such a man to #1 in his campaign? Even the crudest of vetting would have revealed how dirty Manafort was with Russian money. I have to conclude that Trump knew all about it when he hired him.

    2. Again your distrust of our legal institutions and for the rule of law for partisan reasons is quite un-American and are more worthy of a Russian troll which is where you probably got those treasonous ideas in the first place.

    2a.. See 2.
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    Re: Will the Mueller report find that Trump worked with the Russians to "steal" the 2016 Election?

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    1. All in good time. There are many good reasons to believe Trump had a conspiracy with the Russians to influence the election. Just because you don't care is not Muellers fault. I was addressing your false claim that "Mueller has nothing" and the investigation has been going on for over 2 years. Those were BOTH blatantly false and leads me to believe you don't care what Mueller finds in fact you hope it will be covered up to save Trump. That is just plain despicable for any American. BTW Mueller is authorized to pursue ANY crimes he may come across during his investigation of Russian interference. Manaforts crimes concern money received from Russian interests and is certainly within the scope of his powers. Have you ever even wondered what possessed Trump to appoint such a man to #1 in his campaign? Even the crudest of vetting would have revealed how dirty Manafort was with Russian money. I have to conclude that Trump knew all about it when he hired him.

    2. Again your distrust of our legal institutions and for the rule of law for partisan reasons is quite un-American and are more worthy of a Russian troll which is where you probably got those treasonous ideas in the first place.

    2a.. See 2.
    Sorry maybe you have me confused with another posters as I do not recall ever saying "Mueller has Nothing" I have always stated we DO NOT know what Mueller has so we only have assumptions and speculations. I dont recall ever saying I do not care either? Sorry I did Jump into your questions. So my apologies if we are confused.

    With that? You have made a lot of your own assumptions? "Fact you hope it will be covered up to save Trump?" That is DESPICABLE and I would NEVER stand for that EVER. If he is guilty I want to know and I would want the fullest extent of the law applied to him in regards to Russian Collusion.

    Yes I have read in fact the scope multiple times to get clarification. As I state in another thread is this the PATH we will be lead for any future President, a FULL back ground scope against all parties related? This is how we will scrutinize from now own? I do NOT know how Trump chose Manafort. But I did not vote for Manafort, I Voted for Trump and his policies. Manafort will pay for his crimes. But does NOT indicated a Russian plot/ploy or collusion to interfere with the Elections .


    Maybe He knew about it, Maybe he didnt I do NOT know that factually so I cannot accuse him without just cause. It does LOOK crappy but unless we get the truth then accusing him is futile.


    As for distrust of our legal institution? Yes when it is NOT equally dispersed. I gave you the EXACT example. 4 Americans DIED. Who died under Trumps Direct watch? The Ambassador was not a subordinate of The Secretary of State? Confliction of Stories, lack of security, SofS did not know of the ehanced Security request, Then a private server etc. Just doest look good, Then throw in all the destruction of evidence , Immunity deals passed out to ALL of Clinton's aides... Peter Strozk and you got a very questionable investigation. Thats all. as for Russian Troll are you now accusing me of being one? Funny you dont retort but reserve to name calling ......


    If thats where this is going there is no need, Im just here for a debate and would rather not go to name calling.
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