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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Why certainly.....

    A timeline of DACA offers Trump has rejected

    Now, where are those specifics/parameters of the wall that I asked you for?
    Swell. That brings you through March of last year and COMPLETELY avoids what I was talking about from June of last year.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Swell. That brings you through March of last year and COMPLETELY avoids what I was talking about from June of last year.
    Where is the wall data? Does it exist or not? Stop prevaricating and deliver.


    We are now in → Day 30 ← of the Donald Trump/Mitch McConnell government shutdown.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    You know I hate to make light of the suffering (on all sides), but it's looking like it's becoming ... wait ... are you ready for it? ... a Mexican stand-off!

    That's an old-time slang term, but seems to describe the situation pretty well.




    (Wikipedia) Mexican Standoff
    Pretty much.

    I'm not really a big supporter of the wall and firmly believe that manpower is more important than fences but if putting up some wall is the way to get all the other stuff moving then I'll gladly back it 100%. Democrats keep saying that the wall is useless. Well, if that's the case and it's only $5B out of the budget then it sure seems to me that it's worth it as a way to get DACA done.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by slick View Post
    Trump was too generous he doubled the amount of DACA recipients that were originally included but insisted
    the wall, ending the diversity lottery & sections of chain migration be among the conditions. The Democrats
    then balked & the plan became history. That's the facts summed up. Why did the Dems balk it's simple:

    A memo, co-authored by former Clinton communications director Jennifer Palmieri, was sent
    around to allies calling on Democrats to “refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills
    that do not offer a fix for Dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them.”
    “If Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will
    jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond,” reads the memo. “In short,
    the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.”

    If illegals voted Republicans, Democrat governors would beg ICE to come to California, and New York State.
    Concede the point!
    Why did you quote me and post this drivel? Please quote someone else next time. It has exactly nothing to do with my post.
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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    How will the $5.6 billion will be spent? Steel or concrete? Made by whom? At how much a section? How high/deep/wide? How deep does it go into the ground? Who are the contractors? Has the choice been tested by DHS? Environmental studies? If steel does it rust? Open bidding process? Penalties for worker injuries and behind schedule? Where exactly are the panels going to placed? Any effects on the Rio Grande River or underground aquifers? Is everything USA? What are the QC parameters?

    etc. etc. etc.

    No one knows anything. Yet Trump wants $5.6 billion and we'll do this on the fly. Typical Trump incompetence.


    We are now in → Day 30 ← of the Donald Trump/Mitch McConnell government shutdown.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    How will the $5.6 billion will be spent? Steel or concrete? Made by whom? At how much a section? How high/deep/wide? How deep does it go into the ground? Who are the contractors? Has the choice been tested by DHS? Environmental studies? If steel does it rust? Open bidding process? Penalties for worker injuries and behind schedule? Where exactly are the panels going to placed? Any effects on the Rio Grande River or underground aquifers? Is everything USA? What are the QC parameters?

    etc. etc. etc.

    No one knows anything. Yet Trump wants $5.6 billion and we'll do this on the fly. Typical Trump incompetence.
    It seems like something dr. Christmas made when he pitched his experimental plane design he called the Christmas Bullet.
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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    Where is the wall data? Does it exist or not? Stop prevaricating and deliver.
    What "wall data" are you even talking about? You want to know what it's going to be made out of? The current construction varies from place to place and I figure any new construction would also vary as not every construction type is suitable for every area it will have to be built. I suppose, based on that, I'll have to concede that I have no data on the specific engineering of the wall. I guess you win.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Valley View Post
    How will the $5.6 billion will be spent? Steel or concrete? Made by whom? At how much a section? How high/deep/wide? How deep does it go into the ground? Who are the contractors? Has the choice been tested by DHS? Environmental studies? If steel does it rust? Open bidding process? Penalties for worker injuries and behind schedule? Where exactly are the panels going to placed? Any effects on the Rio Grande River or underground aquifers? Is everything USA? What are the QC parameters?

    etc. etc. etc.

    No one knows anything. Yet Trump wants $5.6 billion and we'll do this on the fly. Typical Trump incompetence.
    That's what you're going on about? You want to know the construction specs before funding gets approved? Wow. That really is getting down in the weeds with this.

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Why did you quote me and post this drivel? Please quote someone else next time. It has exactly nothing to do with my post.
    You & I have a different interpretation of the word drivel. carry on

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    Re: DACA For The Wall?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chomsky View Post
    My house is not a border. You're using an incorrect analogy, here.
    Your house is your border, do you leave the locks open so anyone may enter anytime?
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