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Gun Control Law- Give Police Your Social Media Passwords, or be Refused a License?

Should Americans be Required to Give Police Their Social Media Passwords, or be Refused a License?

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Felis Leo said:
Please stop trolling, Logician Man.
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C'mon Felix..Lighten up a little.Clearly the post was made in jest. Almost every gun owner I know, including myself, is a responsible gun owner. Not every post has to be so serious.
 
Logician Man said:
C'mon Felix..Lighten up a little.Clearly the post was made in jest. Almost every gun owner I know, including myself, is a responsible gun owner. Not every post has to be so serious.
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Oh fine, you cheeky little monkey. ;) But please add an emoji next time to indicate that, because sometimes one cannot tell if one is being dead serious like calamity, or pulling our leg like you just did.
 
Felis Leo said:
Please stop trolling, Logician Man.
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He posted some real nonsense and cannot understand why what he said about conservatives was so stupid
 
Felis Leo said:
Oh fine, you cheeky little monkey. ;) But please add an emoji next time to indicate that, because sometimes one cannot tell if one is being dead serious like calamity, or pulling our leg like you just did.
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if you look at his posting history, you could easily conclude he was being serious
 
Felis Leo said:
Oh fine, you cheeky little monkey. ;) But please add an emoji next time to indicate that, because sometimes one cannot tell if one is being dead serious like calamity, or pulling our leg like you just did.
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I just assumed it was so over the top any/all would know it was a sarcastic post. I have as many,if not more conservative friends IRL than libs. and a gun collection 2nd to none, many of them handed down for generations dating back to the revolutionary war.
 
TurtleDude said:
if you look at his posting history, you could easily conclude he was being serious
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careful there...past post history might just bite you in the behind......again
 
Myview said:
Everyone has their opinion. Social media background checks are now common. I understand that connecting it with guns will cause the right to piss in its collective pants at the very mention. There isn't much chance that such a gun related law will be passed in Democrat controlled New York State. Depends on how limited or expansive the law is. I have my opinion, you are welcomed to yours.
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This is not a social media background check, it's a deep dive into your private life.
The proponents of this type of law actually believe that they can offer a one hundred percent guarantee of safety, "IF THEY CAN POLICE YOUR BACKGROUND ENOUGH."

Well sure, a police state is the safest place you can live in, do we want to live in a police state?
We're almost headed that way right now.

In addition to all the points made by people who posted before I did, here is another reason why the law won't accomplish diddly squat in preventing gun crime...
People will simply acquire firearms through non-legal means, circumventing the entire process altogether.

There are no 100% guarantees, in anything, not in gun safety, or in any other aspect of modern life.
The best that we can expect to hope for is whenever somebody screws up big time, THEN they get the deep dive background check into their lives, as a part of their mental health screening process. If they can show cause why they should be allowed to keep their guns, they are afforded that right. If they lose, they get most of the proceeds from the auction of their firearms and they are placed on the no-gun list.
And that STILL will not prevent determined individuals who want to get a firearm by any means necessary, you're dealing with 330 million guns already in private hands.

But everyone deserves the right to start out in life with the clean slate and should not be subjected to more than a standard criminal background check when purchasing a firearm. If they're not on the NCIC, or on the No Fly List, they should be afforded their right to own a firearm.

Last but not least, as others have said, there is no way such a law will survive a court challenge, not even in a mostly liberal court. It is just too invasive and simply not effective to begin with. It's dumb lawmaking designed to placate people who think that guns can be magically made to disappear.

And again, repeating for all needing: No law is going to force sick and dangerous people to become healthy and peaceful, and no law can ever be expected to force criminals to become law abiding. Society has many tools that can help with those problems but they do not take the form of punitives.

Unfortunately for those on the Right, those tools that are needed are more costly than the Right is willing to allow, despite the fact that, in the long run, they represent not only a huge savings, but a valuable investment.
 
Logician Man said:
careful there...past post history might just bite you in the behind......again
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no escaping the fact that your rant against conservatives was not something out of character for you
 
TurtleDude said:
no escaping the fact that your rant against conservatives was not something out of character for you
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whatever TD..you wanna get your panties in a wad over a sarcastic post, go right ahead. I'm not in the mood to baby sit you tonight.
 
Hrmm... I dunno. Seems pretty far outside the broad categories they addressed in Heller (but by virtue of the case & controversy clause in A3, they never go into real depth in questions not presented and most certainly do not resolve them).

Perhaps the idea is to wedge the requirement into their nod to restrictions based on mental health, but that's a bit far. I mean...3 years of social media use? The user's password, not just a list of accounts whose posts can be viewed? Probably won't pass muster.

My main suspicion is that they just want another way to monitor people to try to catch crimes to up their numbers. This is another way to get access to stuff they would otherwise need a warrant for. Shame on them.
 
TurtleDude said:
given the politics of cuomo I suspect that if on FB or other sites you stated

1) affirmative action is racism

2) many illegal immigrants are criminals

3) that the Democrat party is trying to eliminate gun rights

4) the wall should be built

5) men should be restricted to using men's designated bathrooms

6) abortion or homosexuality is a "sin"

etc, the bannerrhoid bureaucracy would deny you a license
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They're insanely jealous of the controls placed on free speech & gun ownership in the EU, and are looking for any way possible to move the US closer to resembling the hyper restrictive environment of Europe.

One interesting side note: the upcoming signing of the UN Global Migration Pact will bring an even greater degree of repressive measures in relationship to speech for countries that sign. The UN document proposes that countries should be begin defining criticism of migration as hate speech.
 
Myview said:
Yes, why not? Many American companies require your social media keys before they hire you as part of a back ground check. If you are a wacko making threats on social media why should you be given a gun license? America's independence and privacy obsession should end where the rights of the public to safety begin. There are too many shooters who after the fact are said to have given red flag signals on social media. Why don't we give anyone a gun, no questions asked? That is what it amounts to in America today. You can have serious mental issues and not have a criminal record. It does not surprise me that so many Americans have no problem with giving anyone without a criminal record guns and permits.
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Why not? Because you'd be depriving someone of their constitutionally protected rights without due process.
 
Myview said:
Yes, why not? Many American companies require your social media keys before they hire you as part of a back ground check. If you are a wacko making threats on social media why should you be given a gun license? America's independence and privacy obsession should end where the rights of the public to safety begin. There are too many shooters who after the fact are said to have given red flag signals on social media. Why don't we give anyone a gun, no questions asked? That is what it amounts to in America today. You can have serious mental issues and not have a criminal record. It does not surprise me that so many Americans have no problem with giving anyone without a criminal record guns and permits.
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Strange to characterize citizens love of independence and privacy as an "obsession". Sorta gives a negative spin to it. But yes, I would go so far as to say Americans cherish independence and privacy. If that's an obsession, then count me in. BTW; in your police state, who gets to decide what's a "serious mental issue"?
 
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