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Has diversity benefited the USA?

Has ethnic/racial/cultural/religious diversity benefited the USA?

  • Yes, people are happier and the country is better than ever in history

    Votes: 48 44.0%
  • No, people are angrier with escalating conflicts and problems

    Votes: 20 18.3%
  • Yes and No. It depends which demographic you are

    Votes: 20 18.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 21 19.3%

  • Total voters
    109
No one has ever said that I should not be able to adopt or am an unfit parent because I am a white heterosexual male Unless you've used drugs, shown a pattern of abuse, or are a bat**** crazy liberal...;)

Or want to adopt a non-white child. Then they lose their ****.
 
Re: the thread question


If one will spend one week reading and watching the news about the United States and Europe, the answer will become obvious.
 
but NOT in Australia,Muticulturalism works very well indeed...You see Slick what you really mean is that you want is a WHITE CHRISTAN SOCIETY,A RACIST SOCIETY...I WONDER WHAT NATIVE AMERICANS ATTITUDE WOULD BE IF THEY THOUGHT LIKE YOU...…….I WILL TELL YOU,LET's kick out all these white European debased Christians out...You see Slick it is all a matter of perception from where you stand...your comment is Purile and Racist...THAT IS WHAT IS UNFAIR AND UNWORKABLE...COME TO PARADISE AND SEE WHAT LIFE,AN INCLUSIVE LIFE CAN BE LIKE....YOU WOULD BE MUCH HAPPIER,and think NO GUNS and NO WEIRDNESS...in a word FREEDOM OF BODY AND MIND....steve

So, you have righted the wrongs done to the Australian aborigines? How did you do that so quickly, and without anyone else noticing?
Regards,
CP
 
All the tools, & yet ...

The USA is more ethnically, racially, culturally and religiously diverse than it has ever been in our history. If diversity is a good thing, then the USA should be a better country in its better condition economically and socially with people the happiest they have ever been.

Has diversity benefited the USA?

Yes, of course. Read Empires of the Atlantic world : Britain and Spain in America, 1492-1830 / John H. Elliott, c2006, Yale U. Press, 970.02 Elli.
Subjects
• British -- Atlantic Ocean Region -- History.
• Spaniards -- Atlantic Ocean Region -- History.
• America -- History -- To 1810.

...


Length xx, 546 pages, [32] pages of plates : chapter notes, bibliography

Excellent coverage of the subject - government, religion, culture, demographics, who came & why, distances, geography, trade, policy, the Native People, disease, comparing & contrasting the Spanish & the British models of empire. A splendid introduction to the questions of why two New World empires turned out so differently.

Quote: "Imperial weakness, if measured by the failure of the British state to appropriate more of the wealth generated by the colonial societies and to intervene more effectively in the management of their domestic affairs, proved to be a source of long-term strength for those societies themselves. They were left to make their own way in the world, and to develop their own mechanisms for survival. This gave them resilience in the face of adversity, and a growing confidence in their capacity to shape their own institutions and cultural patterns in the ways best suited to their own particular needs. Since the motives for the foundation of distinctive colonies varies, and since they were created at different times and in different environments over the span of more than a century, there were wide variations in the responses they adopted and in the character their societies assumed. This diversity enriched them all." p. 411.

Note also that if the unitary view of country-building were the model to follow, then Spanish America should have prevailed in the New World, certainly over the British (& French & Netherlands & Swedish) colonies, because Spain exercised top-down government & administration, & took enormous amounts of precious metals & slaves out of the Americas. & Spain did their best to limit immigration to being from Spain, & only Roman Catholic, & controlled the press, books, news to the extent possible. Education was in the hands of the clergy, who allied with the Spanish crown (the crown bore most of the institutional costs for the church). Again, if blinders could have built a successful colonization, Spain had all the makings & more.
 
So, you have righted the wrongs done to the Australian aborigines? How did you do that so quickly, and without anyone else noticing?
Regards,
CP
Nearly but it is still on going in every aspect but we together will succeed<>It is clearly obvious that you have little understanding of Australia/ns BUT WHAT'S NEW

HAVE YOU RIGHTED WRONGS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS...NOPE AND YOU NEVER HAVE OR WILL....YOU ARE ON A HIDING TO NOTHING...RACIST
 
Nearly but it is still on going in every aspect but we together will succeed<>It is clearly obvious that you have little understanding of Australia/ns BUT WHAT'S NEW

HAVE YOU RIGHTED WRONGS TO THE NATIVE AMERICANS...NOPE AND YOU NEVER HAVE OR WILL....YOU ARE ON A HIDING TO NOTHING...RACIST

Nearly, you say. What does that mean? You accuse me of being racist, are you saying you are nearly not racist? What do you know of the treaty's signed here? Those who claim Native American status rule their own reservations and may leave or stay, as they choose. Did you know that, or are you somehow ignorant of America? And as you write, what is new?
Regards,
CP
 
Nearly, you say. What does that mean? You accuse me of being racist, are you saying you are nearly not racist? What do you know of the treaty's signed here? Those who claim Native American status rule their own reservations and may leave or stay, as they choose. Did you know that, or are you somehow ignorant of America? And as you write, what is new?
Regards,
CP
HOW YOU GET TO THINK THAT WE ARE NEARLY RACISTS FROM MY PROSE,BAFFLE'S ME....I KNOW MANY AMERICANS ARE MYOPIC IN VIEW AND MIND,METHINKS YOU COULD BE ONE OF THEM...steve
 
HOW YOU GET TO THINK THAT WE ARE NEARLY RACISTS FROM MY PROSE,BAFFLE'S ME....I KNOW MANY AMERICANS ARE MYOPIC IN VIEW AND MIND,METHINKS YOU COULD BE ONE OF THEM...steve

Well, Steve, I got it from this...
Nearly but it is still on going in every aspect but we together will succeed<>It is clearly obvious that you have little understanding of Australia/ns BUT WHAT'S NEW
You wrote that didn't you? Also, I congratulated you for being nearly not racist. Then you bring up being myopic?

Just so I don't get trapped into an anti-Australia corner, I say here, I have a great deal of respect and affection for our Australian cousins. I just don't like being kicked while we in the United States struggle with our social problems.
Regards,
CP
 
Well, Steve, I got it from this...
Nearly but it is still on going in every aspect but we together will succeed<>It is clearly obvious that you have little understanding of Australia/ns BUT WHAT'S NEW
You wrote that didn't you? Also, I congratulated you for being nearly not racist. Then you bring up being myopic?

Just so I don't get trapped into an anti-Australia corner, I say here, I have a great deal of respect and affection for our Australian cousins. I just don't like being kicked while we in the United States struggle with our social problems.
Regards,
CP

Puma,my apologies I did not explain myself properly...also the insulting back-hander I gave you but hey no real harm.I hope.

Our White History against the First Peoples (there were over 1600 different tribes(for use of a better word) and 700 different languages when Captain Cook arrived here(in fact the Dutch and French had landed here earlier) Our treatment of the Aborigines albeit in a different epoch was disgusting,but this was the mentality(throughout all colonialism of the time)BUT NO EXCUSE


We have worked very hard to draw both communities together,it is a long and difficult process,THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY NEARLY but we firstly have SAID SORRY FOR THE PAST,moreover with Government support improve Aboriginal Heath and Education but we have much to do still.



Today most Aussie just treat First People of this beautiful land,not forgetting the Aboriginal race have been here over 60,000 years and have survived,longer than any other

Today we see their Culture as very important to our Nation,it is taught in all schools from day one....A list of some of the outstanding achievement of Aussies of First People Ancestory(we don't specifically call them Aboriginies anymore like all people in this Multicutural Country...we are all just called Aussies(unlike you,in America...African Americans,White Americans,Irish Americans,Jewish,Korean,Russian and so on Americans)


I digress...Aboriginal ART<>DANCE<>MUSIC<>SPORTING ACHIEVMENT,OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALISTS,WORLD SURFING CHAMPIONS,SUPERB AUSSIE RULES PLAYERS ETC,EDUCATIONISTS,BUSINESS THE LIST GOES ON AND ON


TIMES HAVE CHANGED,IN AUSTRALIA INPARTICULAR,WE ARE VERY ADVANCED IN VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING...WE ARE A HAPPY PEOPLE,ARE A FAIR PEOPLE Puma AND YOU WOULD BE ALWAYS WELCOME AT MY/OUR TABLE...steve


ps Puma,YES we have a certain element of Ignorant Australians that have A RACIST ATTITUDE but a tiny minority,they are despised...THEY SHOULD ALL BE SENT TO AMERICA WHERE THEY CAN THRIVE IN TRUMPS UTOPIA...OF THE LIVING DEADHEAD MORONS,DYE THEIR HAIR ORANGE,SPEAK WITH AN IMPEDIMENT,AND JOIN THEIR SAVIOUR WHO HAS AN IQ OF LESS THAN 60...I AM OF THE UNDERSTANDING HE HAS THE LOWEST IQ OF ALL AMERICAN PRESIDENTS,AND IT SHOWS...Have A GOODAY...st
 
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Puma,my apologies I did not explain myself properly...also the insulting back-hander I gave you but hey no real harm.I hope.

Our White History against the First Peoples (there were over 1600 different tribes(for use of a better word) and 700 different languages when Captain Cook arrived here(in fact the Dutch and French had landed here earlier) Our treatment of the Aborigines albeit in a different epoch was disgusting,but this was the mentality(throughout all colonialism of the time)BUT NO EXCUSE


We have worked very hard to draw both communities together,it is a long and difficult process,THIS IS WHAT I MEAN BY NEARLY but we firstly have SAID SORRY FOR THE PAST,moreover with Government support improve Aboriginal Heath and Education but we have much to do still.



Today most Aussie just treat First People of this beautiful land,not forgetting the Aboriginal race have been here over 60,000 years and have survived,longer than any other

Today we see their Culture as very important to our Nation,it is taught in all schools from day one....A list of some of the outstanding achievement of Aussies of First People Ancestory(we don't specifically call them Aboriginies anymore like all people in this Multicutural Country...we are all just called Aussies(unlike you,in America...African Americans,White Americans,Irish Americans,Jewish,Korean,Russian and so on Americans)


I digress...Aboriginal ART<>DANCE<>MUSIC<>SPORTING ACHIEVMENT,OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALISTS,WORLD SURFING CHAMPIONS,SUPERB AUSSIE RULES PLAYERS ETC,EDUCATIONISTS,BUSINESS THE LIST GOES ON AND ON


TIMES HAVE CHANGED,IN AUSTRALIA INPARTICULAR,WE ARE VERY ADVANCED IN VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING...WE ARE A HAPPY PEOPLE,ARE A FAIR PEOPLE Puma AND YOU WOULD BE ALWAYS WELCOME AT MY/OUR TABLE...steve

I appreciate the invitation to your table, and feel honored.
I could only ask that you consider there are folks like myself(and you)who have seen the problems and are working to correct them. I have been in that camp since the 60's.
Like Australia, we have been a desirable place to live for a long time and blending the different cultures hasn't been easy, as you will know.
I would like to leave it with you as this; we in the United States will get there, together. Maybe not as fast as could be, but someday for sure and forever! The ugly history with the American Indian can't be undone, but every consideration is given. They can assimilate or not, as they choose.
Your friend in then Northern hemisphere.
Regards,
CP
P.S. I've seen your maps, you know they are upside down, right?:2razz:
 
I appreciate the invitation to your table, and feel honored.
I could only ask that you consider there are folks like myself(and you)who have seen the problems and are working to correct them. I have been in that camp since the 60's.
Like Australia, we have been a desirable place to live for a long time and blending the different cultures hasn't been easy, as you will know.
I would like to leave it with you as this; we in the United States will get there, together. Maybe not as fast as could be, but someday for sure and forever! The ugly history with the American Indian can't be undone, but every consideration is given. They can assimilate or not, as they choose.
Your friend in then Northern hemisphere.
Regards,
CP
P.S. I've seen your maps, you know they are upside down, right?:2razz:

THANK you Puma,you know you are always WELCOME,North or South...it all has to do with Gravitational Pull,let me remind you,anyhow "DOWNUNDER" is fine,from our.... awkward beginning Puma,You can call me a friend,but
I prefer the Australian vernacular...to me YOU ARE A Mate,Matey...Now we're talking....SOON FORWARD...steve
 
THANK you Puma,you know you are always WELCOME,North or South...it all has to do with Gravitational Pull,let me remind you,anyhow "DOWNUNDER" is fine,from our.... awkward beginning Puma,You can call me a friend,but
I prefer the Australian vernacular...to me YOU ARE A Mate,Matey...Now we're talking....SOON FORWARD...steve

Read your post and feel elevated by your kind reply! If you ever leave your beautiful country and get over Florida way, I'll be happy to take you and yours on a walkabout(hope that is spelled right).
G'day mate!
CP
 
I always watch out for people who don't like diversity. It's an easy red flag to spot.
 
I always watch out for people who don't like diversity. It's an easy red flag to spot.

Just curious, why is it you feel a champion of diversity? What is it you so like about it? - Not meant to be adversarial, just wondering about your iron in the branding fire.
Regards,
CP
 
If it weren't for diversity this country wouldn't exist. And neither would this forum.
 
If it weren't for diversity this country wouldn't exist. And neither would this forum.

Sort of. Though either could exist without diversity. I embrace diversity and find it so very interesting. But, just for sake of total truth. your premise is not proven and could be false. Right?
Regards,
Cp
 
Sort of. Though either could exist without diversity. I embrace diversity and find it so very interesting. But, just for sake of total truth. your premise is not proven and could be false. Right?
Regards,
Cp

Wrong. That goes against what our country is all about.
 
Diversity has always been great for this nation, until liberals started to race-bait every chance they get.

Take a look at a picture of congressional republicans and put it next to a picture of the democrats in congress. Notice anything? Correct, the GOP is overwhelmingly white men and the democratic party is a make up of america, we even finally got a real native american in congress and a korean person, a transgender, gays, and straights. What do you guys on the right have? Mostly white men. Yup, it's those race baiting liberals ruining everything...or as our now current governor of florida said about his black democratic opponent...do you really want him in tallahassee monkeying things up.
 
Take a look at a picture of congressional republicans and put it next to a picture of the democrats in congress. Notice anything? Correct, the GOP is overwhelmingly white men and the democratic party is a make up of america, we even finally got a real native american in congress and a korean person, a transgender, gays, and straights. What do you guys on the right have? Mostly white men. Yup, it's those race baiting liberals ruining everything...or as our now current governor of florida said about his black democratic opponent...do you really want him in tallahassee monkeying things up.

How about considering the point of view of a Caucasian: If they don't slavishly agree with everything an African-American spokesperson says, they are racist. If they object to a transsexual being in the same restroom with their children, they are homophobic. If the idea of terrorists being included in an undisciplined immigration worry's them, they are Islamaphobic. It has become so untenable, that even using a well worn phrase(monkey things up, monkeys in a barrel, etc.) has been twisted into an accusation of bigotry.
The bigot isn't the one who said monkeying things up, it is the one who took it upon themselves to identify it as racist. Why was that person so sure it meant something that wasn't said, prejudice maybe? I understand the gut reaction to the N word, how about easing up on the W word? We live here too!
Regards,
CP
 
Diversity can be a good thing. I think we suffer from reverse diversity to some degree. Meaning we assume diversity is always good and therefore those of the diverse groups are somehow always correct. The left is a perfect example. They are diverse, they are welcoming, they are open minded. At least until you don't agree with them.
 
Diversity can be a good thing. I think we suffer from reverse diversity to some degree. Meaning we assume diversity is always good and therefore those of the diverse groups are somehow always correct. The left is a perfect example. They are diverse, they are welcoming, they are open minded. At least until you don't agree with them.

Yes, we are bigoted against the KKK and similar groups. Who would have thunk!
 
Most caucasians I know are also opposed to the KKK so what does that make you, special? Most Conservatives are principaled people who hold certain values and moral beliefs and that doesn't mean they aren't fair minded. I'm opposed to the practice of homosexuality I am not anti gay. I don't dispute a gay persons right to live life as a gay person, I just disagree with it. I also disagree with with open borders, I don't hate Mexicans, Latinos, or anyone else because of where they come from. I think Adolf Hitler was an evil guy, I don't therefore hate all Germans. Because I disagree with things you do doesn't mean I hate you. For Liberals this seems to be the opposite, they attack young high school boys for wearing a hat.
 
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