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So, who won the midterms? IYHO

Who "won" Nov 6th 2018 Midterms?

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Felis Leo said:
With the Democrats winning the House and the Republicans the Senate, it was essentially a draw. Both sides did well in their respective races, so hail the conquering heroes.
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The Dems won the house, the GOP won nothing.
 
The Dems had no power on the federal level before the election. They didn't hold the House, the Senate or the WH.

After the election, they'll hold the House but not the Senate of WH.

It seems the Dem's position is better than where they started. That's a win in my book.

In addition, the Dems picked up 7 governors -- who will hold the line on gerrymandering.
Plus, the FL referendum that allows reformed convicts to vote will help in future years -- as most of those who are incarcerated are minorities, who traditionally vote "D".

Trump stumped pleading with voters to keep the control of the House in R control. They didn't listen. Democrats won the popular vote by seven percentage points. That would match the margin the Republicans achieved in the 2010 midterms, which Barack Obama famously described as “a shellacking.”
 
TRUMP WON BY A MILE! The sore loser democrats Nelson, Tester, Sinema insisting on recounts while there partners in crime
CNN & the restof the main stream media are pretending that the Republicans might not win Mississippi in the runoff. The
tally will be 55-45 when the next senate is seated.

Trump's exhaustive campaigning brought Florida, Indiana, & Montana back into the fold. All were long shots all won.
 
I have to say that straight party voting has cause a great loss for Harris County Texas.
We have a new County Judge, a lady name Lina Hidalgo, 27 years old, and has never attended a commissioners court session.
She is now the Chief executive of the 3rd largest county in the country, overseeing a population
larger than 26 states, and a very large budget. We know a little about her, she was last working as a medical interpreter,
has a Bachelors degree from Stanford in political science, and was born in Columbia.
We can only hope she can raise to the challenge!
 
Spartacus FPV said:
Hard to say, every President loses seats during midterms. Trump lost the least in almost a century.

The Dems won more in the House than the Reps did in the Senate, but House seats have shorter terms.

Seems like the ones Trump campaigned for won, the ones he didn't (or didn't vote to confirm Kavanaugh) lost. Which means those running in 2020 will be decidedly more Trumpian if they want to win. Says a lot about the Trump bump.

Most interesting is that if the electoral college is tied in 2020, it'll be Nancy Pelosi (or whomever the Dems put in as speaker) will decide the next election.

I see a couple years of gridlock and campaigning in our future. I love gridlock, but I cannot stand the 2020 talk that has already begun.
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It never occurred to me that gridlock could be a good thing. Now that Trump and the Trump Party will see significant obstacles in their goose-step toward fascism I believe gridlock is and will be a welcome relief. That being said, if the Democratic Party wastes their time sitting on their asses while following old, worn, marginally successful strategies and policies the gridlock will prove to be nothing more than a pause.

Much credit for Democratic success last night - and they were successful in achieving their goal of taking the House - goes to women, minorities, young voters and also to Independents. IF the DNC doesn't completely comprehend that their party will be doomed. Women, minorities and young voters must be a major player within the party starting today or Democrats can kiss their future adios. Does the old, shabby, wobbly, worn and tired DNC get it? At this point my money would say no. There will be a long hard battle to do it the way they've always done it.
 
Sabre said:
No real winners, the populace is the ultimate losers. Nothing will be accomplished by either side while the circus plays out.

Pelosi and Waters have a long list of subpoenas they intend to launch, Trump says he will launch investigations into Democrats.

Congratulations to all the haters who, through their myopic goal, have effectively brought the government to a standstill for the next two years, we are now entering government by revenge.

The only group I see feeling as winners is another group of haters, those who hate America and want to see it brought down. But for them it is a short and hollow victory, America has withstood this before and will do so again. It will be a rollercoaster ride for two years so sit back, buckle up and try to enjoy the ride.
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If the Democrats held the House two years ago, we wouldn't have the deficit-making tax-cuts nor efforts to repeal Obamacare, both bad policies and wastes. Stopping bad policies is nearly as good as promoting good policies.

Now, the White House will need Democratic permission on spending bills and the budget.

It will also give Democrats the ability to be a check on White House abuse, corruption and illegal activities -- just as the founders intended and the Republicans in charge abrogated.
 
Dragonfly said:
Based on your own personal perceptions, who won yesterday's midterms?

D's

R's

Nobody won, we all lose regardless
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Given how Democrats played the Kavanaugh confirmation and how it played out in this election, I think them having control of the house sets them up for failure as they will over react and cause more polarization. Republicans having more votes in the Senate gives them more of an advantage with pursuing their agenda in placing judges. I don't think losing the house really hurts Republicans because they weren't going to push for more legislation in the first place, so I think long term this is a win for Republicans as I believe Democrats will double down on TDS and drive more people to the Republican party.
 
These 4 senate bets made me a winner also, +163, I also scalped to win 83=251

Ticket Number: 107021236
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE MISSOURI U.S. SENATE
[75364] JOSH HAWLEY (REP) +105
40 to win 42

Ticket Number: 107021237
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE FLORIDA U.S. SENATE
[75379] RICK SCOTT (REP) +115
40 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033540
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE INDIANA U.S. SENATE
[75360] MIKE BRAUN (REP) +160
29 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033541
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE NORTH DAKOTA U.S. SENATE
[75375] KEVIN CRAMER (REP) -120
35 to win 29
 
PoS said:
As long as the dems and repubs control the government, then everybody loses.
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I have to agree. It's time to change the entire system! Get rid of all political parties!!!!!

P.S. I went to your Amazon link, and I'm intrigued. What would be a good book to start with?
 
slick said:
These 4 senate bets made me a winner also, +163, I also scalped to win 83=251

Ticket Number: 107021236
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE MISSOURI U.S. SENATE
[75364] JOSH HAWLEY (REP) +105
40 to win 42

Ticket Number: 107021237
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0510:40 AM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE FLORIDA U.S. SENATE
[75379] RICK SCOTT (REP) +115
40 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033540
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE INDIANA U.S. SENATE
[75360] MIKE BRAUN (REP) +160
29 to win 46

Ticket Number: 107033541
Nov 1904:00 AM Internet / -1 Oct 0502:15 PM TNT
ODDS TO WIN THE NORTH DAKOTA U.S. SENATE
[75375] KEVIN CRAMER (REP) -120
35 to win 29
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Then again, maybe felons shouldn't vote.



;)
 
Nap said:
Given how Democrats played the Kavanaugh confirmation and how it played out in this election, I think them having control of the house sets them up for failure as they will over react and cause more polarization. Republicans having more votes in the Senate gives them more of an advantage with pursuing their agenda in placing judges. I don't think losing the house really hurts Republicans because they weren't going to push for more legislation in the first place, so I think long term this is a win for Republicans as I believe Democrats will double down on TDS and drive more people to the Republican party.
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Whether the R's have 51 votes in the Senate or 55, it doesn't matter. There hasn't been a single instance where not having enough votes stopped a judicial confirmation. The only time having more votes in the Senate would have helped R's was passing the awful healthcare killing law. But it wouldn't have made it out of the House because the Dems control that now.
 
Dragonfly said:
Based on your own personal perceptions, who won yesterday's midterms?

D's

R's

Nobody won, we all lose regardless
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The Democrats won the election, retaking the house. Number wise, the GOP should have picked up seats than the did in the senate. When one thinks the democrats had 26 seats up for reelection vs only 9 for the Republicans. That too could go down as a victory for the Democrats. The losers were those Democratic Senators who decided to vote party over the people they represented wishes and wants during the Kavanaugh confirmation vote. McCaskill, Donnelly, Heitkampt all lost. Tester could join their ranks as his race is too close to call.

The real losers are the American people. The Democratically controlled house will use their new found power to investigate and investigate and try to destroy Trump and not legislate anything for the betterment of America. the big winners were the corporations, wall street firms, lobbyists, special interests and mega money donors who backed the winners. You can bet they want a return on their investment of some 723 million dollars.
 
TDGonDP said:
I have to agree. It's time to change the entire system! Get rid of all political parties!!!!!

P.S. I went to your Amazon link, and I'm intrigued. What would be a good book to start with?
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I think you need to read Federalist 10. Factions will form. We have political parties because they provide information -- information on the general viewpoint of a candidate.
 
Anagram said:
By what metric? Republicans gained seats in the House and Senate during Bush’s first midterm for starters.
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He lost the least in the past century, except for those other times!
 
joko104 said:
There will be no cooperation. Democrats of the House will try to destroy Trump every way possible - including destroying the economy as much as possible - while doing everything possible for erasing our borders and kissing the asses of the international super rich for their political money.

The future is chaos and the entire Federal government is going to become a clown car of spitting and ranting fighting clowns. Our political system due to the primary system prohibits "compromise." People who compromise with the other side risk losing their primary election. There will be no compromises.

I've always believed one party or the other should have near total control so things get done. Then flip back and forth between the controlling party every 8 years. The federal courts would protect the Constitution and Bill Of Rights along the way.
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I am curious, after the past 2 years of his treatment of the Dems....did you expect them to roll over and play dead?

If he really wants to compromise, fine. But frankly, the man lies as easily as he breathes. Who would (should?) trust anything that "man" has to say?
 
joko104 said:
There will be no cooperation. Democrats of the House will try to destroy Trump every way possible - including destroying the economy as much as possible - while doing everything possible for erasing our borders and kissing the asses of the international super rich for their political money.

The future is chaos and the entire Federal government is going to become a clown car of spitting and ranting fighting clowns. Our political system due to the primary system prohibits "compromise." People who compromise with the other side risk losing their primary election. There will be no compromises.

I've always believed one party or the other should have near total control so things get done. Then flip back and forth between the controlling party every 8 years. The federal courts would protect the Constitution and Bill Of Rights along the way.
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Well, we'll see, I guess... It can't be worse than how the Republicans acted when they got the house under Obama...and the Republicans were powered by populism, which made their behavior tolerable among the group of people they have already firmly secured. Since the Dems can't "out-populism" the Republicans, and their base hates those tactics anyway, they are probably smart to not act like a bunch of assholes, they'll never beat the GOP on that front, they'll only look like a bunch of whiners in comparison.

I will agree, though, it's between a rock and a hard place, when it comes to compromise. This is where you need one of your great American leaders to step up... Here's hoping one emerges in the next two years, irrespective of what side they come from, as a great leader from either side would be a great redemption story.
 
American said:
But the insured aren't because ACA is a disaster and failure.
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Well, it's too bad the GOP didn't run on repeal and replace for 8 years or so, then win the House, Senate and WH so they could fix that disaster. Oh, right, they did.
 
Spartacus FPV said:
Hard to say, every President loses seats during midterms. Trump lost the least in almost a century.

The Dems won more in the House than the Reps did in the Senate, but House seats have shorter terms.

Seems like the ones Trump campaigned for won, the ones he didn't (or didn't vote to confirm Kavanaugh) lost. Which means those running in 2020 will be decidedly more Trumpian if they want to win. Says a lot about the Trump bump.

Most interesting is that if the electoral college is tied in 2020, it'll be Nancy Pelosi (or whomever the Dems put in as speaker) will decide the next election.

I see a couple years of gridlock and campaigning in our future. I love gridlock, but I cannot stand the 2020 talk that has already begun.
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That's not how it works. The Congressional delegation for each state decides who it will support for President. Wyoming would get one vote and California would get one vote.

Electoral College Tie: Here'''s What Happens | Time

each state delegation gets one vote. Here’s where things get interesting. Currently, Republicans control 33 state delegations in the House; Democrats control 14; three —New Hampshire, Maine and New Jersey—are tied. But it would be the new Congress sworn in on January 3, 2017, that would break the tie.
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The candidates who won their races won and those who lost, lost. The American people won in that they obtained a check on Trump and his Administration. That's who won and lost.
 
So let's see here...

Dems take House, take a bunch of governorships, they pass a bunch of left-leaning ballot initiatives, they lose fewer Senate seats than they had any right to based on the map, they win something like 90% of the tossups and somehow, magically, the developing narrative that "Golly, it wasn't a blue wave after all!". Hell, they even did it in the states that won 2016 for Trump: OH, WI, MI and PA.

"Some of the things that the most fervent Democratic partisans really really really wished for didn't happen" ≠ There was no wave for dems. It's all about perspective.

Remember, when republicans swept to victory in 1994 and 2010, the popular vote margin was 4-5%. With this election cycle for dems it was 9% despite the gerrymandering and the booming economy. THAT says a lot.

Remember as well that in 2010, the dems lost the house and kept the senate and Obama called it a 'shallacking'. This isn't any different.

This was pretty much a rebuke of Trump, his outright racism and hatred and a desire for accountability and investigations into his corruption.
 
American said:
But the insured aren't because ACA is a disaster and failure.
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sorry but thanks to the ACA my wife is walking and not debilitated. It is only a failure because the Republicans only have a "get rid of" attitude about it even though they are now saying the pre-existing condition clause is good.
 
Dragonfly said:
Based on your own personal perceptions, who won yesterday's midterms?
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Trump won.

The Dems may have barely taken the house but without control of the senate there's no hope for impeachment, unless the Muller investigation actually turns up something.(which is highly doubtfully atm)

If the investigation turns up nothing then it will put the dems in a really bad spot, because persident Trump's assertion that the investigation nothing more then witch hunt will be vindicated. This will gimp the effect of the house launching any investigations or impeachment hearing.

Then president Trump will proceed to **** all over the dems for being spiteful obstructionist over Twittard, while giving his base the thing they crave most. Liberal tears.
 
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