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Black Panther

Should white kids dress as black panther for Halloween?

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Do you think it is acceptable for a white kid to go trick or treating on Halloween dressed as the Black Panther? It's not technically blackface, but it kind of is.
 
Do you think it is acceptable for a white kid to go trick or treating on Halloween dressed as the Black Panther? It's not technically blackface, but it kind of is.

Sorry, but the final option should be, "I'm a white non-Trump voter and I think it's wrong."
 
Yes. It's perfectly fine for kids to dress up as the superheros they enjoy. We have much more pressing issues, than being concerned about Halloween costumes.

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I support Trump and I think its fine for kids to dress up whatever they want for halloween.
 
Why on Earth WOULDN'T it be?
 
Just as I cannot yet give a definitive answer to this question, I will choose not to be upset by a question that does not oppress me or incite any oppression against me in any way.
 
N0, no one should dress in that costume.

This is 2018.

Everyone is looking for something to be offended about.

Sometimes being offended can result in a cash settlement.

Sometimes being offended can earn at least 15 minutes of fame.


Don't jeopardize your job or standing in the community by letting your kids dress in that costume. You are only asking for trouble.


Oh, be careful, too, about the kind of candy that you give out. I don't eat candy, but no doubt there are some brands with names or wrappers that can offend some troublemakers.
 
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One of my favorite heroes from over 40 years ago.

Some people and their ever present racial goggles are over the top annoying and stupid. Keeping that up must be exhausting.

People can just be cool without having to box them into some kind of category.

The poll is ridiculous by the way.
 
Yes. It's perfectly fine for kids to dress up as the superheroes they enjoy. We have much more pressing issues, than being concerned about Halloween costumes.

So as a black kid whose waited forever to finally have one cool superhero movie that reflects their culture in a sea of hundreds of other white superheroes you don't think it would bother you if you showed up for school as the black panther and some white kid copied your costume as if he was as big of a fan as you were? There are countless other white superheroes for that kid, why does he have to pick the one character that represents you? You want to tell a black child that shouldn't bother him?

Blank Panther is more than just another superhero he's a cultural icon for African Americans. He's the one superhero that black kids really have to look up to, and I could definitely see how seeing a white kid in the same costume would piss him off. Why do that?
 
So as a black kid whose waited forever to finally have one cool superhero movie that reflects their culture in a sea of hundreds of other white superheroes you don't think it would bother you if you showed up for school as the black panther and some white kid copied your costume as if he was as big of a fan as you were? There are countless other white superheroes for that kid, why does he have to pick the one character that represents you? You want to tell a black child that shouldn't bother him?

Blank Panther is more than just another superhero he's a cultural icon for African Americans. He's the one superhero that black kids really have to look up to, and I could definitely see how seeing a white kid in the same costume would piss him off. Why do that?

Maybe you should stop worrying about the race of the heroes and just let them be heroes. Who says your heroes have to be the same race as you?
 
So as a black kid whose waited forever to finally have one cool superhero movie that reflects their culture in a sea of hundreds of other white superheroes you don't think it would bother you if you showed up for school as the black panther and some white kid copied your costume as if he was as big of a fan as you were? There are countless other white superheroes for that kid, why does he have to pick the one character that represents you? You want to tell a black child that shouldn't bother him?

Blank Panther is more than just another superhero he's a cultural icon for African Americans. He's the one superhero that black kids really have to look up to, and I could definitely see how seeing a white kid in the same costume would piss him off. Why do that?

T'Challa does not reflect anyone's culture. Wakanda is a fictional nation and he is a fictional character. And no, it wouldn't. Kind of like when a black girl dresses up as Rey. I don't care, and I don't get offended by silly trivial crap such as this. Black kids can look up to every single superhero in the Marvel franchise. They are all great people and role models. They don't have to be black, and it's silly to think that black kids only have T'Challa to look up to because he's the only major black superhero (there is the Falcon and War Machine, but they get overshadowed a lot). That's like if I only could look up to the white superheros. I don't, because that would be stupid. If it bothers anyone, then they need to grow up.
 
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Maybe you should stop worrying about the race of the heroes and just let them be heroes. Who says your heroes have to be the same race as you?

Well if you're a black kid, or a woman, or a Latino or an Asian you really don't have a choice given that virtually every big superhero movie that comes out is featuring a white guy as the lead character. Do you really think that a white boy can truly appreciate what the black panther means to a black child? What Wonder Woman means to a young girl?

Cultural appropriation can definitely be taken too far, but I'd say it definitely exists.
 
If a white kid can't dress up as Black Panther, then we have reinforcement of racial separation; each race gets their segregated superheroes.
 
T'Challa does not reflect anyone's culture. Wakanda is a fictional nation and he is a fictional character.
Wakanda is very clearly intended to be a broad representation of African cultures in general. If you don't understand that you are seriously out of touch.

And no, it wouldn't. Kind of like when a black girl dresses up as Rey. I don't care, and I don't get offended by silly trivial crap such as this.
That's because as a white girl you don't live in a world where virtually every single solitary female character in every movie and television show is black except for one. As a black kid dressing up for Halloween for years you've really had no choice, but to dress as a white superhero or white character because there aren't any other characters. This is basically the first year in your life when there's a really cool black character. You have to know there's already going to be a ton of black kids dressed as him. Why not stay away and let them have it?

Black kids can look up to every single superhero in the Marvel franchise.
They can, but up until recently they basically have had no choice, but to look up to white heroes because there are no black ones. At least none that are lead figures of their own movie.

They don't have to be black, and it's silly to think that black kids only have T'Challa to look up to because he's the only major black superhero
It isn't that they only have T'Challa, it's that he's likely to be their favorite. Given that there's likely to be a ton of black kids dressed as him, why can't a white kid pick a different costume from the 100's of other choices?

That's like if I only could look up to the white superheroes. I don't, because that would be stupid. If it bothers anyone, then they need to grow up.
I think part of growing up is learning how to be respectful to others and consider how your actions and choices might be perceived by other people. To be the belief that you should just be able to do whatever you want and to hell how that makes anybody else feel is the sign of someone very immature.

There are plenty of fo pah's, traditions and rude blunders one can make by not taking into account your audience and the others around you. They may seem small and insignificant, but your seeming unwillingness to be considerate of others around you still does make you look like a jack ass.
 
If a white kid can't dress up as Black Panther, then we have reinforcement of racial separation; each race gets their segregated superheroes.

It's not segregation, it's about being considerate. To me, it's comparable to a kid going to another kids birthday party and taking the biggest piece of cake with the most frosting on it. It's just a dick thing to do. It's the other kids birthday, and he should get the first choice. Or a woman showing up to another woman's wedding wearing a fancier more expensive dress than the bride. That's just not cool, you don't do that. There are just certain things you don't do to steal someone else's thunder and try and garner attention for yourself.
 
It's not segregation, it's about being considerate. To me, it's comparable to a kid going to another kids birthday party and taking the biggest piece of cake with the most frosting on it. It's just a dick thing to do. It's the other kids birthday, and he should get the first choice. Or a woman showing up to another woman's wedding wearing a fancier more expensive dress than the bride. That's just not cool, you don't do that. There are just certain things you don't do to steal someone else's thunder and try and garner attention for yourself.

No kid dressing as a superhero stops any other kid from dressing as that superhero.

Unless their parents are raging dicks, I'd suspect that the most common reaction would be for everyone dressed as Black Panther to think it's cool that other kids like/dressed as him, too. They'll probably high-five each other.

Kids don't carry this kind of identity politics nonsense with them unless they're taught to.
 
If a kid of any color is fascinated and interested in another culture than their own, it's a good thing. People learn about what they are interested in and that leads to growth.

Shutting down a kid that doesn't know about racism by emphasizing their skin color also teaches bad habits that they are likely to start emulating...as that is what kids do. We should judge people not by the color of their costume, but by the contents of their candy-stash.
 
" Sorry I ruined your Black Panther party."- Forrest Gump -
 
If a kid of any color is fascinated and interested in another culture than their own, it's a good thing.
That's fine, but that's not the point. Things like Halloween costumes and general clothing styles are frequently used for the purposes of self-promotion and getting attention. If two women wear the same outfit to school on the same day they both get embarrassed by it because they lose a bit of their individuality. If one girl clearly wears it better that can lead to a very ****ty day for the other girl who was proud of her new dress until she saw someone else in it.

For Halloween, there's already likely to be a ton of young black kids running around dressed like T'Challa. Do you really want to be the one white kid whose stealing their thunder too?

Shutting down a kid that doesn't know about racism by emphasizing their skin color also teaches bad habits that they are likely to start emulating
And what about teaching children respect for other cultures and to not be insensitive?
 
Kids don't carry this kind of identity politics nonsense with them unless they're taught to.

It has nothing to do with identity politics. It's about standing out and getting attention. If you showed up for school on Halloween and the dorkiest least popular kid in school was wearing the same costume you were that would piss a lot of kids off. Or vice versa, if you weren't that popular and a more popular kid wore the same costume and everyone thought there's was cooler than yours that would make a lot of kids feel bad.

To finally have an opportunity to wear a superhero costume that is representative of your race only to find out a bunch of white kids is wearing the same one? I could definitely see that pissing a kid off.
 
For Halloween, there's already likely to be a ton of young black kids running around dressed like T'Challa. Do you really want to be the one white kid whose stealing their thunder too?

If there are "a ton" of black kids running around as T'Challa, how is "one" white kid going to "steal their thunder"?


And what about teaching children respect for other cultures and to not be insensitive?

I would say wanting to model yourself after something shows respect for it.
 
Well if you're a black kid, or a woman, or a Latino or an Asian you really don't have a choice given that virtually every big superhero movie that comes out is featuring a white guy as the lead character. Do you really think that a white boy can truly appreciate what the black panther means to a black child? What Wonder Woman means to a young girl?

Cultural appropriation can definitely be taken too far, but I'd say it definitely exists.

I'd say he would appreciate it as much as any hero means to any kid. Gender might be a bigger factor but I don't really think so. My wife loves Superman, Spiderman, Iron man ect. She don't like them any less simply because she pees differently than they do. She even likes Black Panther. I don't think it would make sense for her to be forced to like wonder woman just because she has the same genitalia and skin pigmentation. I support her decision to like who she wants to like. Based on their stories. I think men are going to have to be ok with her liking male heroes even if she can't appreciate them on the same level as men do for whatever reason you seem to think exists.
 
You knew it was coming....

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SJW virtue signaling....now with 50% more faux outrage.
 
It has nothing to do with identity politics.

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It is 100% identity politcs.

It's about standing out and getting attention. If you showed up for school on Halloween and the dorkiest least popular kid in school was wearing the same costume you were that would piss a lot of kids off. Or vice versa, if you weren't that popular and a more popular kid wore the same costume and everyone thought there's was cooler than yours that would make a lot of kids feel bad.

None of that would have ever occured to me, nor to anyone I grew up with. You must have had a hell of an insecure childhood.
 
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