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Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make Senate 'More Diverse'?

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make Senate 'More Diverse'?

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Waddy said:
Still trying to import those voters, I see.
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Regardless of the fact that they don't actually want to be a state, why should someone born with American citizenship be prohibited from voting for their own representatives in the House, Senate and Presidency?
 
Waddy said:
Yeah, we only want actual citizens to vote.
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Puerto Ricans ARE REAL AND ACTUAL citizens....just like you....oh except they aren't white....neither am I ...but guess what my passport says....it
says US citizen. Guess what I do every 2 and 4 years? VOTE.
 
truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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I support any territory etc that has the legal path to be a state and they CHOOSE to do so and "diversity" has nothing to do with it. All Americans should and if you dont the problem is with you.
As for DC thats a totally different thing vs PR, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Mariana Islands, U.S. Virgin Islands.
 
rocket88 said:
That's what it's all about isn't it? The Republican party can't compete with Democrats when it comes to minorities, so obviously that's the fault of minorities.
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Republicans can't compete with anything unless they cheat, so they hard bake cheating into the system, create laws that legalize cheating, and then continue to cheat even more.

This is not the least bit surprising, by the way. This is how authoritarians always work, it's what they do.
 
rocket88 said:
I support statehood, but I don't think diversity has anything to do with it.
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Since DC was created as a federal district, I cannot see how statehood would work, but I still do happen to think that they deserve better representation than they are getting, statehood or not.

Puerto Rico? There is a process, and if they go through that process successfully, then they deserve statehood fair and square.
 
Cardinal said:
No worries. Republican-controlled states can just purge more voters from the registries to make sure there's no threat of them ever going Democrat.
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It's always hilarious watching Republicans whine and cry about cheating.
 
Moderate Right said:
That's just a partisan talking point. Pretty much no voter who wants to vote would be purged. They only purge people who have not voted in a very long time and it would include both Democrats and Republicans. Either they are dead or moved or something else, including they just don't want to vote anymore. Anyone who is eligible and wants to vote are always able to vote. Very few would actually have to re-register. Almost no one.
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Don't forget closing hundreds of polling places in primarily black Democratic districts.
 
truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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I suspect Laurence Tribe and the the huge majority of the NY Times staff think proper diversity is translated that only far leftists/progressives/statists/liberals/Democrats are in control of Congress.
 
phattonez said:
So there's one party that represents the interests of those people who have been here for generations, and there's another party that represents the interests of those who more recently immigrated and have less of an attachment to this country.

And I'm supposed to be okay with that latter party?
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It is incredibly easy to make people who have recently immigrated develop a deep and loving attachment to this country.
 
Masterhawk said:
I believe that all of DC (save for the White House, Capitol Building, and Supreme Court Building) should be annexed by Maryland. One seat would be added to the House which would go to Maryland.

As for Puerto Rico, they need to host a fair referendum before we can even debate integrating the territory into the US.
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Why should Maryland have to assume responsibility, it's a federal district.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Don't forget closing hundreds of polling places in primarily black Democratic districts.
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What's that called, moving the goal posts? We were talking about purging registered voters. Apparently you have given up on that topic and now you want to change it to something else.
 
Moderate Right said:
What's that called, moving the goal posts? We were talking about purging registered voters. Apparently you have given up on that topic and now you want to change it to something else.
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Both happened, so it's not moving the goalposts, it's opening up the seats near the end zone so that your fans can watch OUR team sack your quarterback and make a touchdown.

Not only DID you purge voter rolls, you closed polling places.
You did both, and you're still doing it this year, too.
There's nothing to stop you down South anymore.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Why should Maryland have to assume responsibility, it's a federal district.
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Because the DC that exists today is on land which was donated from Maryland (Virginia also donated land but took it back in the civil war). And because Maryland and DC vote very similarly (both are progressive bastions).
 
Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make Senate 'More Diverse'?
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I support statehood for those two jurisdictions; however, I do because the citizens of those places deserve representation in Congress, not because it'd make the Senate more diverse.

Indeed, it's not even clear to me that giving D.C. statehood would make the Senate more diverse. D.C. is, as of 2014, roughly half minority and half white. About the only existential trait a D.C. elected senator might have that, AFAIK, no currently sitting senator has is that of being gay/transgender -- it's relatively difficult to find D.C. residents who give a damn about one's sexuality and other such things. Otherwise, a senator from D.C. is going to be much like senators from everywhere else in that, prior to being elected, they are members of a rarefied segment of American society.

I don't know Puerto Rico well enough to remark on how alike or dissimilar a senator from there is likely to be, though I'm certain s/he would fluently speak both Spanish and English.
 
Masterhawk said:
Because the DC that exists today is on land which was donated from Maryland (Virginia also donated land but took it back in the civil war). And because Maryland and DC vote very similarly (both are progressive bastions).
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Irrelevant.
 
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