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Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make Senate 'More Diverse'?

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make Senate 'More Diverse'?

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Thanks to a combination of historical accident and racism, the Senate gives considerably more representation to white citizens than to dark-skinned ones. It allows a minority of Americans — white Americans — to wield the power of a majority.

Wyoming, Vermont, the Dakotas and Maine, tend to be overwhelmingly white. The Senate, as a result, gives far more special treatment to whites than it once did.

It’s time to fix this inequity and to make Washington and Puerto Rico the 51st and 52nd states, with full representation in the Senate and the House. A few years ago, this idea would have seemed radical (or at least it would have outside of Washington and Puerto Rico, where it’s long been popular.) But it is now starting to get more attention, and it deserves to. Those four million American citizens deserve to be treated as American citizens.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/14/opinion/dc-puerto-rico-statehood-senate.html
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Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
 
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truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States, with the option to vote for Independence, Statehood, or maintain it's current status.

The Puerto Rican's have the option to vote for Statehood. If a majority choose to do so, then I agree that they should become our 51'st State.

The same holds true for American Samoa, the U.S. Virgin Islands, Guam, and the Northern Mariana's

Why not?
 
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I’ll support Puerto Rico becoming a state when the majority of Puerto Rican’s WANT to become a state. Diversity has nothing to do with it. Making DC a state makes no sense to me. It would make more sense for DC to become part of Maryland.
 
I support it mainly because the Senate has a lot of important responsibilities and, due to the 2 Senators from each state rule, it gives a big advantage to a minority of citizens. I see no problem with creating a Senate that more accurately represents the interests of the American people.
 
truthatallcost said:
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It's nothing more than a blatant push to get more Democrats in the Senate and House.
 
Captain Adverse said:
The Puerto Rican's have the option to vote for Statehood. If a majority choose to do so, then I agree that they should become our 51'st State.

Why not?
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Because they're a failed government and we don't need them.
 
phattonez said:
It's nothing more than a blatant push to get more Democrats in the Senate and House.
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From one side, from the other it is a push to make getting compensated for being a victim easier and more profitable.
 
Skeptic Bob said:
I’ll support Puerto Rico becoming a state when the majority of Puerto Rican’s WANT to become a state. Diversity has nothing to do with it. Making DC a state makes no sense to me. It would make more sense for DC to become part of Maryland.
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I agree. A majority of Puerto Rican's don't want to become a state, as such I wouldn't force it on them. I also agree that it makes more sense for DC to become part of Maryland than to become a state. After all, DC is only a city.
 
Perotista said:
I agree. A majority of Puerto Rican's don't want to become a state, as such I wouldn't force it on them. I also agree that it makes more sense for DC to become part of Maryland than to become a state. After all, DC is only a city.
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DC also shares with PR the trait of a long record of having crap government with the citizens with little interest in pursuing better.
 
phattonez said:
Because they're a failed government and we don't need them.
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Look again. You already got them. Up to them whether they want statehood or not.
 
Grand Mal said:
Look again. You already got them. Up to them whether they want statehood or not.
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I want to unload them.

Sent from my HTC phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.
 
I oppose adding any new states. I don't care in the slightest about racial diversity - only racists care about a person's genetic markers.

The response to Warren by the Cherokee Nation was perfect as a statement on the lack of importance of "race" as a genetic matter. There response was to essentially call Warren a racist, without using that word. To be a Cherokee is the be a true member of the Cherokee tribe, which has absolutely nothing to do with genetics. It has to do with being one of their "people, of their tribe"- not someone of similar genetics. Pure NON-racism. A nation consists of its people of its own tribe, not of genetic markers.

To those who can not grasp what they said, ask yourself "what dna test would prove a person is of the American nation?" The answer, of course, is there could be no such test as being an American is not in any manner whatsoever defined by race and genetics. That is what the Cherokee Nation just said about what defines a person as being a Cherokee - genetic having no relevancy whatsoever.

Calling for representation based upon genetic markers is absolute indefensible racism.
 
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truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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"to make the Senate more diverse". Translation: Get more liberals in the legislature.

No.
 
truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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Sure. Make Puerto Rico a state and then Mississippi will finally not be the biggest dump in the Union.
 
The reason I oppose statehood is both non-Partisan and Partisan. Any of those would be an economic drain - not plus - to the USA. They would add Democratic Senators and Representatives, including more Democratic Senators from tiny population groups and more Democratic Representatives. I do not want more Democratic Senators and Representatives in Congress. I want less. Therefore, I do not want to allow any of those territories to have statehood.

^ And that, folks, is a 20 second classic conservative debate response on the negative to the liberal affirmative team presenting a 1 minute resolution to grant statehood to US territories.
 
phattonez said:
I want to unload them.

Sent from my HTC phone. Instaurare omnia in Christo.
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Good luck with that. Maybe Jesus will help you, since it's your charitable interest in helping the less fortunate that drives you.
 
truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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LOL. Of course lefties would want them to be states. Diversify the government? No, to take over the government from Republicans. That isn't diversifying.
 
truthatallcost said:
Surprisingly, some high profile academics have come out in favor of the NYT opinion piece idea, such as Harvard Law Professor Laurence Tribe. Apparently the diversification process isn't happening fast enough for some people, and it's time to radically transform the USA anyway possible.

Do You Support Statehood for Puerto Rico and Washington DC to Make the Senate 'More Diverse'?
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I support their statehood, should they choose it, because all our governed should be able to participate fully in our government. That goes for every U.S. territory. Territories and administrative districts (or whatever the hell D.C. is) are antiquated ideas. People who are governed should have a say--even a token one--in how they're governed.
 
phattonez said:
Because they're a failed government and we don't need them.
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Ah so you much prefer the poor white failed government in Kansas. Got it. You guys just can’t have any poor brown folk but you don’t mind poor white folk.
 
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