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Who Finds the Swetnick Claims credible

Do you find Swetnick credible

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Rexedgar said:
I have no idea; this is where risk/reward statistics enter the equation. Who wins/who loses and what are the risked losses. At this point Judge Kavanaugh has nothing left to lose. When he went all ironclad denial, he pushed “all in.” I am not condoning the release of personal information regarding the judge; but that toothpaste isn’t going back into the tube. I question why there wasn’t/ haven’t been a torrent of like accusations, once the first came out.

However this turns out, Kavanaugh has been effectively knee-capped, imo.

Anyone else find the topic exhausting?
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LOL...yes,I do. The entire forum may have to be weaned off of Kavanaugh-gate like a junkie gets weaned off of their drug of choice.
 
Logician Man said:
How do you know her story is bogus? No response necessary.It's a rhetorical question.There is no way in hell you could know if her story is bogus or not.Just like there is no way in hell you could know whether or not Ford's or Kavanaugh's stories are factual.
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do you anti Trump posters completely suspend all experience or logic or common sense?
 
TurtleDude said:
do you anti Trump posters completely suspend all experience or logic or common sense?
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How would you know? You've clearly displayed you have no common sense at all. You condone males sexually assaulting young defenseless females.That transgresses ant political ideology.
 
MovingPictures said:
It's not easy to prove someone is lying about something from 35 years ago and meet the bar for perjury.

These things can go both ways. Predators can rely on the timeline and so can false accusers.
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that she cannot name who allegedly was part of the "train" that did her, where it happened, when it happened and why no one else has discussed it shows she is lying IMHO. by not naming other names and by not identifying where it happened and when, its harder to nail her for perjury. She and Ford both have stories designed to eliminate the possibility of an alibi defense. If they claim the incidents took place at a certain house on a certain date and that can be proven false, they are lying.
 
TurtleDude said:
This is the woman who said she attended 9-10 parties where she saw girls being drugged and then gang raped by boys. She claims she attended some of these High School Parties as a college student and finally, she too was drugged and then had several High school boys have vaginal sex with her. She never claimed Kavanaugh did this to HER nor can she name anyone else but him, but she claims she saw him standing in line to have sex with one or more of the other girls. She has extensive issues in her background including having a restraining order taken out against her by a former boyfriend
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I voted not credible just to give her benefit of the doubt that she didn't attend parties just for the sex. Anybody who would attend multiple parties where gang rapes were happening must be hoping to be a target of those rapes.
 
Logician Man said:
How would you know? You've clearly displayed you have no common sense at all.
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I am not the one who is trying to make excuses for a story of dozens of gang rapes witnessed by a future victim of these gang rapes who never said squat about them, and no one else has either.
 
TurtleDude said:
if her obviously bogus story is proven bogus, her attorney should be disbarred and subject to at least treble damages that Kavanaugh can establish. Which is clearly going to be in the millions. She also should be tried for perjury and hit with a massive civil verdict-again in the seven figures
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I haven't heard a peep from Avanetti. Wonder why?
 
AlbqOwl said:
I voted not credible just to give her benefit of the doubt that she didn't attend parties just for the sex. Anybody who would attend multiple parties where gang rapes were happening must be hoping to be a target of those rapes.
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LOL maybe that's why she didn't report the first 40 or 50 gang rapes.
 
holbritter said:
I haven't heard a peep from Avanetti. Wonder why?
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I am suspecting somewhere a US attorney and some investigators are preparing an investigation of him. He's either going to make millions more off of his slime or he's gonna be a prison bitch.
 
TurtleDude said:
LOL maybe that's why she didn't report the first 40 or 50 gang rapes.
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Well, after one or two of such parties, I sure wouldn't keep attending them if I wasn't really enjoying it. :)
 
Logician Man said:
How would you know? You've clearly displayed you have no common sense at all. You condone males sexually assaulting young defenseless females.That transgresses ant political ideology.
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stop lying. I don't condone it-I object to 36 year old unsupported claims of such being given any credibility. Especially given the timing, the convenient lack of facts (thus preventing the accused from raising an alibi defense) and the people who are funding and pushing the 36 year old claim
 
TurtleDude said:
I am not the one who is trying to make excuses for a story of dozens of gang rapes witnessed by a future victim of these gang rapes who never said squat about them, and no one else has either.
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You're the who posted "I don't care if if a 17 year old boy gropes a 15 year old girl as long as there is no physical harm.' Do you still stand by your words?
 
AlbqOwl said:
Well, after one or two of such parties, I sure wouldn't keep attending them if I wasn't really enjoying it. :)
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maybe she was singing the old Spencer Davis classic :mrgreen:

 
Logician Man said:
You're the who posted "I don't care if if a 17 year old boy gropes a 15 year old girl as long as there is no physical harm.' Do you still stand by your words?
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stop lying-I said a claim of juvenile delinquency that was never timely brought, never reported in a timely manner and has no evidence of being repeated by the alleged offender in 30 years is not sufficient to derail a qualified appointee being seated for the job.
 
TurtleDude said:
stop lying-I said a claim of juvenile delinquency that was never timely brought, never reported in a timely manner and has no evidence of being repeated by the alleged offender in 30 years is not sufficient to derail a qualified appointee being seated for the job.
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B.S..I quoted your words verbatum,and Calamity also saw them.So you can either own up to them or continue to post falsehoods..your call (post # 364 in the 3rd accuser comes forward against Kavanaugh thread)
 
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Logician Man said:
B.S..I quoted your words verbatum,and Calamity also saw them.So you can either own up to them or continue to post falsehoods..your call
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I said even if what she is saying is true its not sufficient to derail the nomination GIVEN HIS RECORD and a complete lack of any malfeasance as a judge or an attorney. your "witness's alleged testimony" isn't exactly credible to me or most other posters on issues like this
 
These types of 'parties' happened no doubt, but funny thing is, even if Swetnick went to them, but 'finally was drugged and gang raped', was she stupid enough after seeing what went on at ONE, to keep returning..... why? And to go to 10+ of them? Not report a thing? Until SHE was finally drugged and raped?


I'll bite my tongue of the majority of my thoughts, but to be able to pick out just one face after all that. Mmmmm, no.
 
TurtleDude said:
I said even if what she is saying is true its not sufficient to derail the nomination GIVEN HIS RECORD and a complete lack of any malfeasance as a judge or an attorney. your "witness's alleged testimony" isn't exactly credible to me or most other posters on issues like this
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Maybe you need to stop posting until or unless you can remember your own posts,ant the exact words contained in those posts.
 
Logician Man said:
B.S..I quoted your words verbatum,and Calamity also saw them.So you can either own up to them or continue to post falsehoods..your call (post # 364 in the 3rd accuser comes forward against Kavanaugh thread)
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So can you prove he said that? By posting his comment in its full context? I see that you deleted your assertion that it was Post #364 in the 3rd accuser comes forward thread. The only thread I am aware of with that title doesn't have even 100 posts.

But can't you see how difficult it is to arrive at proof when it is a matter of he/she said vs he/she said? And should anybody's bad act in high school, short of murder or rape or aggravated battery or some such be a disqualification to a person after living an exemplary life for well over 30 years?
 
Logician Man said:
Maybe you need to stop posting until or unless you can remember your own posts,ant the exact words contained in those posts.
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what section is that thread in you are talking about? haven't you read my at least 100 posts where I explained why an unsupported act of juvenile delinquency that was so minor the victim didn't tell anone about it for 30 years, is not sufficient to derail the nomination. Now if there were nnumerous complaints of Kavanaugh say groping his law clerks, litigants, bailiffs, witnesses, you might have a point
 
AlbqOwl said:
So can you prove he said that? By posting his comment in its full context? I see that you deleted your assertion that it was Post #364 in the 3rd accuser comes forward thread. The only thread I am aware of with that title and it doesn't have even 100 posts.

But can't you see how difficult it is to arrive at proof when it is a matter of he/she said vs he/she said? And should anybody's bad act in high school, short of murder or rape or aggravated battery or some such be a disqualification to a person after living an exemplary life for well over 30 years?
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you'd think he would just copy my post and repaste it here so everyone could easily find the context and the thread.
 
Logician Man said:
Maybe you need to stop posting until or unless you can remember your own posts,ant the exact words contained in those posts.
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maybe you should put up or find another thread if you are unable to paste what you claim I said so people can read the context. You've tried to dishonestly claim I condone what is at best an act of juvenile delinquency-the seriousness of which is undercut rather severely by her actions of going to politicians rather than law enforcement and the time it took her to report it which smells of political expediency, not a quest for justice
 
TurtleDude said:
what section is that thread in you are talking about? haven't you read my at least 100 posts where I explained why an unsupported act of juvenile delinquency that was so minor the victim didn't tell anone about it for 30 years, is not sufficient to derail the nomination. Now if there were nnumerous complaints of Kavanaugh say groping his law clerks, litigants, bailiffs, witnesses, you might have a point
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Go through your post history dude.Like I said,I know you posted it,Calamity knows you posted it,and you most likely know you posted it.I know the post # is correct.The thread may be a different thread,but there is ZERO doubt you posted it.It's in the archives.If you doubt it ask a mod to go through your post history.If it's not there,I give you my word I'll close my account. Will you close your account if a mod pulls up the post in which you posted those words?
 
I don’t know. It seems over the top but I know for a fact there are people like that. Especially back then there were women who, while they didn’t approve of such behavior, just accepted it as the way the world was. There ARE rape victims who look the other way when other women are raped. There ARE rape victims who continue to travel in the same social circles as their rapist.

Women are human and humans vary greatly in their responses to traumatic events. I have seen way too many people behave in counterintuitive ways in my life to dismiss it out of hand. She made the claim under penalty of perjury so if it isn’t true the only person who should be nervous about it being investigated is her.
 
TurtleDude said:
maybe you should put up or find another thread if you are unable to paste what you claim I said so people can read the context. You've tried to dishonestly claim I condone what is at best an act of juvenile delinquency-the seriousness of which is undercut rather severely by her actions of going to politicians rather than law enforcement and the time it took her to report it which smells of political expediency, not a quest for justice
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When you state 'you don't care if...",you are condoning it by proxy. end of story.. In what context could or would you EVER attempt to defend such a disrespectful and vile claim against females? The floor is yours.
 
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