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Should the FBI Investigate Christine Ford's Allegations Against Kavanaugh Before She Testifies?

Should the FBI be Required to Investigate Ms. Ford's Allegations before She Testifies?

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Captain Adverse

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The question is fairly simple.

As demanded by the Democrats, and honored by the Republican's, Kavanaugh's appointment vote was delayed until after a hearing scheduled for Monday 09/24/18 so that Ms. Christine Blasey Ford is given the opportunity to testify.

Kavanaugh states he has no problem with this. The only other alleged witness states he has no knowledge of this issue and chooses not to testify.

But apparently Ms. Ford has decided she will NOT testify unless a non-existent FBI investigation is completed on her allegations.

Brett Kavanaugh's accuser wants the FBI to investigate her claims before she testifies to Senate committee, and it could delay his Supreme Court confirmation indefinitely.
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https://www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaughs-accuser-calls-for-fbi-investigation-2018-9

Of course the allegations are no longer a crime since the Maryland Statute of Limitations for a Fourth Degree Sex Offense expired one year after the incident (or one year after the accuser turned 18 which is still over 30 years ago).

There is no Federal crime to investigate, and no State crime still in need of investigating. Of course trying to get an investigation started, much less completed will push any hearing and testimony sometime into next year.

So, recognizing all of this, should the FBI be compelled to investigate her allegations in order for her to then testify before Congress about Kavanaughs fitness?

Or conversely, is such an investigation really necessary before she could testify at the scheduled hearing on 09/24/18?


What say YOU?

Yes?

No?

Other?

Please vote and then explain why.
 
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I'm with Grassley on that one ...


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Captain Adverse said:
The question is fairly simple.

As demanded by the Democrats, and honored by the Republican's, Kavanaugh's appointment vote was delayed until after a hearing scheduled for Monday 09/24/18 so that Ms. Blasey Ford is given the opportunity to testify.

Kavanaugh states he has no problem with this. The only other alleged witness states he has no knowledge of this issue and chooses not to testify.

But apparently Ms. Ford has decided she will NOT testify unless a non-existent FBI investigation is completed on her allegations.

https://www.completelearning.in/2018/09/19/kavanaughs-accuser-wants-fbi-probe-before-she-testifies/

Of course the allegations are no longer a crime since the Statute of Limitations for a Fourth Degree Sex Offense expired one year after the incident (or one year after the accuser turned 18 which is still over 30 years ago).

There is no Federal crime to investigate, and no State crime still in need of investigating. Of course trying to get an investigation started, much less completed will push any hearing and testimony sometime into next year.

So, recognizing all of this, should the FBI be compelled to investigate her allegations in order for her to then tesitfy before Congress about Kavanaughs fitness?

Or conversely, is such an investigation really necessary just to allow her to testify at the scheduled hearing on 09/24/18?


What say YOU?
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I'd say she should be dismissed as having any relevance if she doesn't show up and her attorney (a hard core Soros operative who defended Bill Clinton's sexual assaults on Paula Jones etc) and Feinswine being subject to public censure and ridicule by the Senate
 
Investigate what? She has no date, month, location or any other details. There is nothing to investigate. This is she-says-he-says. There's nothing else to look into. If you oppose Kavanaugh's appointment you claims she's telling the truth. If you support Kavanaugh's appointment you claim she has no proof.

Everything else everyone posts is just rationalizations for the outcome they want. This is NOT the FBI's job and HOPEFULLY this time the FBI won't try to influence the political process. The FBI already said no, it will not investigate a 37 year old claim that a high school boy touched a high school girl in a way she didn't like.
 
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Yes, the FBI should do what it always does for judicial background checks, and what it did when allegations arose in the Thomas confirmation; it should talk to people who knew both parties during their high school days, check school records, talk to the therapist and review notes that have been released, talk with the husband, look for corroboration of the allegations, if it exists, just do their damn job. Oh, and while they're at it, they might want to follow up on individuals who have already gone public about first-hand knowledge that Kavanaugh lied to congress in 2006. If he lied then, he probably lied in 2018 as well.We all know what this rush for confirmation is all about; slap his hand on a bible and shove him into a SCOTUS robe before the election. That's not an ethical way to make a lifetime appointment, and very well could lead to impeachment of a future Justice Kavanaugh by a democratic congress who will investigate allegations of those congressional lies.
 
I understand why she wants one — to help stave off the Anita Hill treatment she’s already receiving — but I don’t know how much good one would do. I for one have no reason not to believe her; however, I don’t see what the FBI would possibly be able to find so far after the fact to prove or disprove her allegations.

Also, I think there were plenty of reasons to keep Kavanaugh off the high court before this surfaced.

TurtleDude said:
I'd say she should be dismissed as having any relevance if she doesn't show up and her attorney (a hard core Soros operative who defended Bill Clinton's sexual assaults on Paula Jones etc) and Feinswine being subject to public censure and ridicule by the Senate
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I guess you Ivy Leaguers really do stick together, eh? It’s always fun to see someone you thought was sane go full Soros on you.
 
DiAnna said:
Yes, the FBI should do what it always does for judicial background checks, and what it did when allegations arose in the Thomas confirmation; it should talk to people who knew both parties during their high school days, check school records, talk to the therapist and review notes that have been released, talk with the husband, look for corroboration of the allegations, if it exists, just do their damn job. Oh, and while they're at it, they might want to follow up on individuals who have already gone public about first-hand knowledge that Kavanaugh lied to congress in 2006. If he lied then, he probably lied in 2018 as well.We all know what this rush for confirmation is all about; slap his hand on a bible and shove him into a SCOTUS robe before the election. That's not an ethical way to make a lifetime appointment, and very well could lead to impeachment of a future Justice Kavanaugh by a democratic congress who will investigate allegations of those congressional lies.
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The most fun part of this has been Cocaine Mitch whining about how the Democrats aren’t honoring Senate tradition and decorum after he singlehandedly stole Gorsuch’s seat. I hope when Mitch McConnell finally meets his maker, he’s alone and in tremendous pain.
 
Kobie said:
I understand why she wants one — to help stave off the Anita Hill treatment she’s already receiving — but I don’t know how much good one would do. I for one have no reason not to believe her; however, I don’t see what the FBI would possibly be able to find so far after the fact to prove or disprove her allegations.

Also, I think there were plenty of reasons to keep Kavanaugh off the high court before this surfaced.



I guess you Ivy Leaguers really do stick together, eh? It’s always fun to see someone you thought was sane go full Soros on you.
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your last line is mindless trollage

she's now acting in contempt of the senate. she should be ignored and ridiculed
 
Kobie said:
The most fun part of this has been Cocaine Mitch whining about how the Democrats aren’t honoring Senate tradition and decorum after he singlehandedly stole Gorsuch’s seat. I hope when Mitch McConnell finally meets his maker, he’s alone and in tremendous pain.
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If that happens, Feinscum will be roasting in eternal hell, and McConnell stole nothing
 
Kobie said:
I understand why she wants one — to help stave off the Anita Hill treatment she’s already receiving
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No, you dont actually understand anything. This is a coordinated political strategy to delay this nomination. The objective is now and has always been to keep Kavenaugh off the bench by any means necessary.
 
Yes I would like to know if this is a another fake news! You know this stuff should have been question and, discussed with kavanaugh! She has no facts! The left is using the Federal Bureau Of Investigation that’s pretty interesting how the left is using the Federal Bureau Of Investigation when they need something. I would like to ask Feinstein how come you sat on this letter 8 weeks? This is all about the election
 
Fletch said:
No, you dont actually understand anything. This is a coordinated political strategy to delay this nomination. The objective is now and has always been to keep Kavenaugh off the bench by any means necessary.
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Do any of you guys even care if the allegations are true? Honest question.

BTW, Kav has already disqualified himself because he repeatedly lied to the committee.
 
Kobie said:
Do any of you guys even care if the allegations are true? Honest question.

BTW, Kav has already disqualified himself because he repeatedly lied to the committee.
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your claims-not reality. its gonna be fun when he is seated. then even more fun when Trump replaces RBG.
 
TurtleDude said:
your claims-not reality. its gonna be fun when he is seated. then even more fun when Trump replaces RBG.
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Pretty sad to see you go Full Metal Trumper. You used to be better.
 
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Captain Adverse said:
The question is fairly simple.

As demanded by the Democrats, and honored by the Republican's, Kavanaugh's appointment vote was delayed until after a hearing scheduled for Monday 09/24/18 so that Ms. Christine Blasey Ford is given the opportunity to testify.

Kavanaugh states he has no problem with this. The only other alleged witness states he has no knowledge of this issue and chooses not to testify.

But apparently Ms. Ford has decided she will NOT testify unless a non-existent FBI investigation is completed on her allegations.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaughs-accuser-calls-for-fbi-investigation-2018-9

Of course the allegations are no longer a crime since the Maryland Statute of Limitations for a Fourth Degree Sex Offense expired one year after the incident (or one year after the accuser turned 18 which is still over 30 years ago).

There is no Federal crime to investigate, and no State crime still in need of investigating. Of course trying to get an investigation started, much less completed will push any hearing and testimony sometime into next year.

So, recognizing all of this, should the FBI be compelled to investigate her allegations in order for her to then testify before Congress about Kavanaughs fitness?

Or conversely, is such an investigation really necessary before she could testify at the scheduled hearing on 09/24/18?


What say YOU?

Yes?

No?

Other?

Please vote and then explain why.
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I say no.But that is because there is nothing to investigate and that its not in their jurisdiction to investigate allegations attempted sexual from 30 plus years ago of people who at the time were minors. Heck she should not be even testifying to a senate committee. Because the only reason her allegations were made was to delay Kavanaugh's confirmation. Because there is no way of proving or disproving her claims. And due to statute of limitations there is no way in hell this case will ever be prosecuted in a criminal court.Which is another reason why the allegation was made. There is no consequence for her and the dems making a false allegation. This is the Anita Hill scam that democrats did to try to block a black man from being a supreme court justice.
 
Captain Adverse said:
The question is fairly simple.

As demanded by the Democrats, and honored by the Republican's, Kavanaugh's appointment vote was delayed until after a hearing scheduled for Monday 09/24/18 so that Ms. Christine Blasey Ford is given the opportunity to testify.

Kavanaugh states he has no problem with this. The only other alleged witness states he has no knowledge of this issue and chooses not to testify.

But apparently Ms. Ford has decided she will NOT testify unless a non-existent FBI investigation is completed on her allegations.

https://www.businessinsider.com/brett-kavanaughs-accuser-calls-for-fbi-investigation-2018-9

Of course the allegations are no longer a crime since the Maryland Statute of Limitations for a Fourth Degree Sex Offense expired one year after the incident (or one year after the accuser turned 18 which is still over 30 years ago).

There is no Federal crime to investigate, and no State crime still in need of investigating. Of course trying to get an investigation started, much less completed will push any hearing and testimony sometime into next year.

So, recognizing all of this, should the FBI be compelled to investigate her allegations in order for her to then testify before Congress about Kavanaughs fitness?

Or conversely, is such an investigation really necessary before she could testify at the scheduled hearing on 09/24/18?


What say YOU?

Yes?

No?

Other?

Please vote and then explain why.
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The FBI should only investigate federal crimes. If there was a federal crime involved then yes. If not then no.
 
Should the FBI be Required to Investigate Ms. Ford's Allegations before She Testifies?
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More important than investigating the legitimacy of her claim before Dr. Ford testifies is that the FBI (or some group of professional investigators) do so and publicize (to the public and Congress) its report before the Judiciary Committee votes on Kavanaugh's nomination.
 
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