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Do you expect Kavanaugh to become a Supreme Court Justice?

Do you expect Kavanaugh to become a Supreme Court Justice?

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Amelia said:
Because you've seen everything I've seen and you've clearly made up your mind about it. What would be the point?

We will see if these mounting layers of questionable behavior will start to resonate with more people.


It probably won't. The GOP are determined to have Kavanaugh. We have Orrin Hatch saying it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh did attempt to rape this lady. And Hatch is supposedly one of the higher minded people in the Senate. With senators like that, Kavanaugh will probably be confirmed soon.
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Yes, it does matter but what really matters is that there is concrete proof that there was an attempted rape. I don't see how this can be proved.
Don't know if you have raised sons, but if you have, would you want to see their highest career aspirations and dreams squashed by a she said this?
 
Slingshot Bob said:
And this is the bottom line. It's takes a very gullible partisan to give this obvious kabuki in the 11th and a half hour, a shred of credibility. But there is no shortage of those.
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It takes a partisan to really take a hard line stance either way. She may very well be telling the truth, the onus is on her to prove her claim. I do believe that Feinstein was sitting on this purely for political gain in order to delay his nomination (which imo is reprehensible and simply dirty politics), but that doesn't necessarily detract from the credibility of the claim.
 
Amelia said:
Because you've seen everything I've seen and you've clearly made up your mind about it. What would be the point?

We will see if these mounting layers of questionable behavior will start to resonate with more people.


It probably won't. The GOP are determined to have Kavanaugh. We have Orrin Hatch saying it doesn't matter if Kavanaugh did attempt to rape this lady. And Hatch is supposedly one of the higher minded people in the Senate. With senators like that, Kavanaugh will probably be confirmed soon.
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unless there is substantial evidence that Kavanaugh abused women subsequent to the poorly documented and ephemeral claims of Ford, it shouldn't matter.
 
trixare4kids said:
Yes, it does matter but what really matters is that there is concrete proof that there was an attempted rape. I don't see how this can be proved.
Don't know if you have raised sons, but if you have, would you want to see their highest career aspirations and dreams squashed by a she said this?
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as I noted, if this sort of nonsense concerning HS antics should matter, I bet few Democrat nominees are going to be unscathed in the future. Drunk HS boys groping drunk girls? OMG Call out the FBI!!!
 
trixare4kids said:
Yes, it does matter but what really matters is that there is concrete proof that there was an attempted rape. I don't see how this can be proved.
Don't know if you have raised sons, but if you have, would you want to see their highest career aspirations and dreams squashed by a she said this?
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Of course I wouldn't want to see anyone or anything stand in the way of my sons' achievements.

Even if he really did attempt to rape her while drunk, I would still want that part of my sons' life to be considered a closed chapter.


But I'm not his mother. And I believe Ford. And Kavanaugh has had more than one incident while under oath he ranged from evasive to possibly having committed perjury.

So, Democrats will try to use that to stop him from being seated. And Republicans will say it doesn't matter even if Kavanaugh did what he is accused of doing. And Republicans are in the majority and Democrats from red states are trying to keep their seats, so I think Kavanaugh will make it through.
 
Nap said:
What if he is telling the truth?
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The media has already found him guilty. No trial or proof needed anymore. You are guilty until proven innocent in the no longer free America.
 
Amelia said:
Of course I wouldn't want to see anyone or anything stand in the way of my sons' achievements.

Even if he really did attempt to rape her while drunk, I would still want that part of my sons' life to be considered a closed chapter.


But I'm not his mother. And I believe Ford. And Kavanaugh has had more than one incident while under oath he ranged from evasive to possibly having committed perjury.

So, Democrats will try to use that to stop him from being seated. And Republicans will say it doesn't matter even if Kavanaugh did what he is accused of doing. And Republicans are in the majority and Democrats from red states are trying to keep their seats, so I think Kavanaugh will make it through.
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Ok, fair enough.

How can you believe her without having concrete evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt he attempted to rape her?
 
TurtleDude said:
as I noted, if this sort of nonsense concerning HS antics should matter, I bet few Democrat nominees are going to be unscathed in the future. Drunk HS boys groping drunk girls? OMG Call out the FBI!!!
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Here's how it looks to me as of now... Without hard evidence that proves her claim, (and to my knowledge there isn't any hard cold proof), this is just another witch hunt attempting to thwart the Republicans.
So childish, so partisan, so unnecessary...
 
Nap said:
It takes a partisan to really take a hard line stance either way. She may very well be telling the truth, the onus is on her to prove her claim. I do believe that Feinstein was sitting on this purely for political gain in order to delay his nomination (which imo is reprehensible and simply dirty politics), but that doesn't necessarily detract from the credibility of the claim.
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The fact that this comes out at an opportune moment (from a party well know for such smear tactics) over 30 years later, makes a critical thinker, very reserved.
 
trixare4kids said:
Ok, fair enough.

How can you believe her without having concrete evidence that proves beyond a reasonable doubt he attempted to rape her?
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How many attempted rapes have concrete evidence? Do you require concrete evidence for everything you believe?

Between the therapist report from 2012 and the details of her story and her willingness to come forward publicly and my personal experience, I believe her. And this isn't the only time his credibility has come into question.

At least there will be hearings.
 
Slingshot Bob said:
The fact that this comes out at an opportune moment (from a party well know for such smear tactics) over 30 years later, makes a critical thinker, very reserved.
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As I said, there is every reason to be skeptical of the claim especially since this isn't exactly a new tactic for Democrats. However, it is better to listen to all the facts and make a rational decision after rather than hastily jumping to one side or the other. Having said that, the burden of proof lies with the accuser and given the lack of evidence (currently that we know) and the time that has passed, it will be an uphill battle for her. It would be wrong to dismiss her claim simply because Democrats are exploiting her situation for political gain.
 
Nap said:
As I said, there is every reason to be skeptical of the claim especially since this isn't exactly a new tactic for Democrats. However, it is better to listen to all the facts and make a rational decision after rather than hastily jumping to one side or the other. Having said that, the burden of proof lies with the accuser and given the lack of evidence (currently that we know) and the time that has passed, it will be an uphill battle for her. It would be wrong to dismiss her claim simply because Democrats are exploiting her situation for political gain.
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Until she can pony up actual proof, I scoff at her and her handlers.
 
Amelia said:
How many attempted rapes have concrete evidence? Do you require concrete evidence for everything you believe?

Between the therapist report from 2012 and the details of her story and her willingness to come forward publicly and my personal experience, I believe her. And this isn't the only time his credibility has come into question.

At least there will be hearings.
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People are acting as if rape and attempted rape is a spectator event! "Where are the witnesses!!" Well hell, any "witnesses" were either involved themselves or complicit in covering it up.
 
TurtleDude said:
unless there is substantial evidence that Kavanaugh abused women subsequent to the poorly documented and ephemeral claims of Ford, it shouldn't matter.
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His friend, Mark Judge's memoirs seem to favor Ford's account more than it does Kavanaugh's.
 
Moot said:
His friend, Mark Judge's memoirs seem to favor Ford's account more than it does Kavanaugh's.
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His memoirs don't matter; his testimony matters, and he's been Kavanaugh's buddy since high school (as were the other two witnesses in the house that night, who have refused to say anything at all). Because of Judge's memoirs, however, the GOP chairman of the Judiciary Committee will most likely not allow him to be "invited" to testify.
 
DiAnna said:
His memoirs don't matter; his testimony matters, and he's been Kavanaugh's buddy since high school (as were the other two witnesses in the house that night, who have refused to say anything at all). Because of Judge's memoirs, however, the GOP chairman of the Judiciary Committee will most likely not allow him to be "invited" to testify.
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I think I read somewhere that Prof. Ford said it was just Kavanaugh and Judge in the room that night and the therapist mistakenly wrote 4 witnesses instead of 2.

Although Dems would love it, I think Kavanaugh would be a fool to have his HS buddy, Mark Judge as his witness. But if no other witnesses were present then what else does Kavanaugh have for his defense?
 
It’s all about the votes and the GOP has them.
 
DiAnna said:
Just ask Juanita Broaddrick; she testified under oath that he didn't rape her.
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Broaddrick signed an affidavit- a sworn statement- that Clinton didn't rape her. She did not want to let involved in the Paula Jones case and hoped to stay out of it/stay anonymous and avoid having to give testimony by denying her earlier allegation. She admits she perjured herself.
Broaddrick was pulled into the Paula Jones case about a year later, and was afraid to lie to Ken Starr and a Federal grand jury. She did not stand by her lie and told Starr the truth, with immunity.
Starr didn't pursue the claim because the SOL had run out. He was looking for witness intimidation, and didn't find any. So, Broaddrick's claim became an unverified footnote in the case.
 
bearpoker said:
Why? What would have happened? This is how it would have gone down:

You weren't raped, so what are you complaining about?
You shouldn't have been there in a bathing suit.
Why were you at a party where alcohol was being served?
Were you drunk?
Did you come on to him?

See, it's always the girls fault.
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how's this, take personal responsibility (this reply is very disturbing)

quick question my victim friend, what should have happened 35 years ago if she had come forward like she should have?

next question, what should happen now?

Just what is it you want for such a common form of aggression?
 
Nap said:
As I said, there is every reason to be skeptical of the claim especially since this isn't exactly a new tactic for Democrats. However, it is better to listen to all the facts and make a rational decision after rather than hastily jumping to one side or the other. Having said that, the burden of proof lies with the accuser and given the lack of evidence (currently that we know) and the time that has passed, it will be an uphill battle for her. It would be wrong to dismiss her claim simply because Democrats are exploiting her situation for political gain.
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She is a known leftist activist with an agenda. She claims something happened but cannot remember key details and names others who also deny her claims. She makes for a very poor witness in a crime she alleges to have taken place some 40 years ago which she never reported until now.
 
vesper said:
You seem to be ignorant to the point that Kavanaugh has been eyed for years to be a nominee for the Supreme Court and seems to make the left scared. Several of his readings of the law have been recognized in the SC to be a guide to follow. He is a religious man in his personal life and he lives those principles in his community when no one was looking. He feeds the homeless, he volunteers to aid the downtrodden when no one was looking. So STFU. He is the real deal and that is what scares the left the most.
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Let's get real dude.

Kavanaugh has been a wingnut for years, we all know this.Hence the concern. Of course it concerns me as my family is modern American. Black, brown and white. Even a gay nephew. Real Americans not nutcase 1960 crap.

I think his religion alone should disqualify him. Something very unsettling bout people who engage in such unhealthy activities.

Feeds the homeless? What a load of crap. Superficial stage craft. Sorry, feeding the poor once a year is nonsense. I know lots of folks that do this. LOTS.

The guy is 53 and his oldest daughter is what? 10 years old?

How do you religious nuts feel about that?

Seems something unwholesome about that, unhealthy at best...

lets be real, you are filled with hate and trump and this guy hate the same folks as you and its that simple.

peace out pumpkin
 
Trippy Trekker said:
Does this story by Dr. Ford of alleged teenage sexual assault derail Kavanaugh's confirmation?

On September 4th, Renae created a somewhat similar poll with four choices. At that time I thought Kavanaugh had a lock on enough Senate votes to win confirmation. Last I checked, only Cardinal voted the Senate would not confirm Kavanaugh.

This late breaking development regarding alleged teenage sexual assault has changed my mind. I now agree with Cardinal.

I have provided a simple poll with only two choices:

Vote 'YES' if you expect Kavanaugh to win confirmation.

Vote 'NO' if you do not expect Kavanaugh to win confirmation.
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I'm not sure if this is a put up job or the real thing. The timing seems to indicate the former. In today's polarized and ultra partisanship, a put up job is a real possibility. Democrats want to destroy anything Republican and Republicans want to destroy everything Democratic.

30 years ago, teenagers, in High School, what's next, bringing up peeing one pants in kindergarten? I really don't give an coyote's howl if Kavanaugh is confirmed or not. I'm just sick and tired of the muck racking and negativity brought to the fore in all of this.

What's funny, not ha ha funny, is a lot of those same Democrats who are now out to get Kavanaugh are the same one's who defended Bill Clinton again Flowers, Jones, Broaddrick, Wiley and Monica. Juanita Broaddrick actually accused Bill of rape. Shuffled off into the neither regions of space by the Democrats. Perhaps it is all about just the R and the D and nothing else.
 
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