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[W:236] Taya kyle has a brutal message for colin kaepernick on what real ‘sacrifice’ means

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She has good points and a definite right to say what she did.
The controversial idiot Nike chose for their ad says more about their PC advertising staff and how out of touch they are with the rest of the country.

If you want to sell shoes, then you avoid political statements...period. No matter what you say the other side will be offended. You want them to buy your shoes too.

Remember the ad used in the movie "What Women Want". It was geared to selling shoes to active women. NO POLITICS.

If I was a rock star or an actor, i sure as heck would not want to alienate a major portion of my fans by making some political stand. That is just dumb.

What Nike did here was dumb, and will only to serve to alienate a broad portion of their customers.
It's not like they are the only running shoe out there to choose from you know?

A bone headed executive at Nike picked a bone head to front their ad campaign and now they will reap bone headed profits.
 
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It is so infuriating how people arbitrarily lean so heavily into the military when convenient in order to grandstand on their political platforms.
 
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americanwoman said:
Then there's the reasonable people in the middle who understand the act of kneeling isn't disrespectful, recognized they are not hurting anyone or anything in their protest, and just want to watch some football and don't really give a damn but have to be sucked into arguing with people who want to waive their fists and act like they care.
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Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country. That's why they do it during the anthem and not during their interviews after the game is over. They CHOOSE to do it during the anthem because they do not respect the anthem or our country. If they want to bring attention to their cause they have the money to take out full page ads in every newspaper in the country, which would bring a lot more attention to their cause. They CHOOSE to disrespect our country instead.
 
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Beaudreaux said:
The Nike ad says "Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything." (emphasis added by me) Seriously? Sacrificing everything? Kaepernick did not sacrifice everything. The men and women that died in the line of duty serving their country or their fellow man while wearing the uniform of the US military, or a firefighter's gear, or a badge and blue, they sacrificed everything.

There are a number of posts here that rightly say that sacrifice is not a competition, and one even properly says that sacrifice is not binary, that it's a spectrum. However, the end point of that spectrum is the full and final measure of sacrifice - your life.

There are many that have done what the Nike ad says, and I completely agree with the statement in the ad.

However, putting the picture of Kaepernick over top of that statement just ads insult to injury given that it illustrates the very reason why some (including me) do not support and are offended by the disrespect to those that truly sacrificed everything for what they believed in - freedom, liberty, and our Constitution which they swore an oath to protect.

Some folks just don't understand, and that's okay with me. I don't expect everyone to understand, or even care.

I don't necessarily agree with what Ms. Kyle said, but I can understand why she feels that Nike disrespected her husband and others like him.
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He sacrificed everything relative to his own life. Comparing his life to a soldier killed in action is an exploitative disgrace.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country. That's why they do it during the anthem and not during their interviews after the game is over. They CHOOSE to do it during the anthem because they do not respect the anthem or our country. If they want to bring attention to their cause they have the money to take out full page ads in every newspaper in the country, which would bring a lot more attention to their cause. They CHOOSE to disrespect our country instead.
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How exactly is kneeling a form of disrespect?
 
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americanwoman said:
How exactly is kneeling a form of disrespect?
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LOL. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm. People are supposed to stand for the national anthem. People all over the world stand for their country's national anthem. It's common knowledge. When you purposely don't stand when you are supposed to, then you are not respecting our country because the Star Spangled Banner is the anthem for our country. That's why these guys are picking the national anthem to protest, because they want to show disrespect for a country they believe has racial injustice. It's even in the NFL game rules that they should stand for the anthem and is also in all other sports game rules that they must stand for the anthem. There's no reason why they can't show respect for our country and bring attention to racial injustice using many other different ways that don't disrespect our country.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country. That's why they do it during the anthem and not during their interviews after the game is over. They CHOOSE to do it during the anthem because they do not respect the anthem or our country. If they want to bring attention to their cause they have the money to take out full page ads in every newspaper in the country, which would bring a lot more attention to their cause. They CHOOSE to disrespect our country instead.
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No, it doesn't disrespect the country, no matter how upset that makes you and no matter how often you repeat it like some mantra.

You desperately need it to disrespect the country so you can avoid having to face what they're actually protesting, but that won't change the reality of it.
 
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Moderate Right said:
LOL. Ummmmmmmmmmmmmm. People are supposed to stand for the national anthem. People all over the world stand for their country's national anthem. It's common knowledge. When you purposely don't stand when you are supposed to, then you are not respecting our country because the Star Spangled Banner is the anthem for our country. That's why these guys are picking the national anthem to protest, because they want to show disrespect for a country they believe has racial injustice. It's even in the NFL game rules that they should stand for the anthem and is also in all other sports game rules that they must stand for the anthem. There's no reason why they can't show respect for our country and bring attention to racial injustice using many other different ways that don't disrespect our country.
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"supposed to"

I get it now, like you are "supposed to" be a "moderate" rightie yet half your post drip with partisanship. Aren't you the one that would rather vote for a child molester than a democrat? I guess what we are supposed to do isn't what we always do, right?
 
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Moderate Right said:
Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country. ...
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False.
 
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americanwoman said:
Oh calamity!

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I don't see too many widows of color being paraded around like this little grave-dancer.

Besides who in their right mind takes a schitz to a shooting range? smh be right, tho.
 
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Moderate Right said:
The thing is that the left does not understand is that the majority of the right are totally fine with players or anyone wanting to bring attention to the cause of racial injustice but there are many thousands of ways to do that without disrespecting the flag, the anthem, or our country.
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You'll be incredibly happy to know, then, that no player as actually disrespecting the flag, the anthem or the country.

I just LOVE being the bearer of good news!
 
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LincolnRossiter said:
I love my fellow Veterans and their families and am 100% aware of what they sacrifice, though I thankfully haven’t buried a family member or very close friend who died in the line of duty, and obviously no one buried me. And also thankfully, the overwhelming majority of Vets and their families can say the same thing—throughout a generation of servicemembers who served during wartime.

But not having paid the ultimate sacrifice in battle doesn’t mean that one’s own sacrifice is inconsequential. I don’t know what Kaepernick’s deal is, internally, and I’m not on the “kneel during the anthem” train. But to argue that he hasn’t left millions on the table is ridiculous. Maybe he’ll recoup it as an activist. Who knows?

I haven’t yet been in a position to turn down $15 million to keep my mouth shut about an issue that likely won’t personally affect me or anyone I know.

It must take some courage.
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I think, also having served this nation in the army as a Vet, that Kaepernick does not understand the National Anthem nor does he get what the flag is all about.

He thinks the anthem is a signal for him to engage in protest at a football game. I have been to many pro football games and also was a Raiders season ticket holder, but never did I see players of any of the teams pulling such a stunt.

Those supporting Kaepernick must be educated to understand the Anthem and also learn about the Flag of the United States of America.

The anthem is not about police. It has nothing to do with race. Kaepernick stuck out his foot and pro football did not appreciate his image on the field.

Nike approves him but a lot of buyers now do not approve Nike. We have to see how Nike manages to do in the future.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
You'll be incredibly happy to know, then, that no player as actually disrespecting the flag, the anthem or the country.

I just LOVE being the bearer of good news!
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If that is the case, why do players pick the playing of the Anthem and the display of the flag to decide to protest? Do you actually understand the Anthem?
 
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Manc Skipper said:
Who? Never heard of her. Or her assassin husband.
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A shooter of brown people, no less. smh @ tone deaf mother****ers on the Right. To say the least.
 
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Robertinfremont said:
If that is the case, why do players pick the playing of the Anthem and the display of the flag to decide to protest? Do you actually understand the Anthem?
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Something about buying Jose' some glasses so that he can see bombs bursting in the air.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country.
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No it doesn't. That's just snowflake, triggered, partisan, emotional reactionary nonsense meant to spin the narrative away from the reason behind kneeling.
 
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Superfly said:
Apparently, she didn't realize that her husband, when he signed up, agreed to protect and defend the Constitution.
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I was also in the Army and that part is not an option. They do not ask if you want to swear an oath, they make you swear that oath.
 
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Moderate Right said:
Kneeling during the anthem disrespects our country. That's why they do it during the anthem and not during their interviews after the game is over. They CHOOSE to do it during the anthem because they do not respect the anthem or our country. If they want to bring attention to their cause they have the money to take out full page ads in every newspaper in the country, which would bring a lot more attention to their cause. They CHOOSE to disrespect our country instead.
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We are discussing very wealthy sports players. Wealth gives them the opportunity to drive a new Rolls Royce or pay for a major ad. A collection of players could buy a promo ad on TV.
 
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Tanngrisnir said:
No, it doesn't disrespect the country, no matter how upset that makes you and no matter how often you repeat it like some mantra.

You desperately need it to disrespect the country so you can avoid having to face what they're actually protesting, but that won't change the reality of it.
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It does disrespect our country. Why else would they do this DURING the national anthem? If they wanted to bring attention to their cause there are numerous ways of doing it. They CHOOSE to do it during the national anthem.
 
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Ikari said:
No it doesn't. That's just snowflake, triggered, partisan, emotional reactionary nonsense meant to spin the narrative away from the reason behind kneeling.
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I bet they do not kneel when drinking at the local bar.

Clearly we lack Democrats that understand the Anthem, what it actually is and what it is all about. A lot of pro football players can't spell their last name unless being reminded.
 
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americanwoman said:
"supposed to"

I get it now, like you are "supposed to" be a "moderate" rightie yet half your post drip with partisanship. Aren't you the one that would rather vote for a child molester than a democrat? I guess what we are supposed to do isn't what we always do, right?
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95% of NFL players stand for the anthem. Game rules state that they should stand during the anthem. All other sports game rules state that players MUST stand for the anthem. People stand for the anthem all over the entire country and people all over the world stand for their national anthems. Obviously, these few players do not respect our country enough to stand for it's anthem.
 
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Robertinfremont said:
https://dailycaller.com/2018/09/04/taya-kyle-colin-kaepernick/

Read the article IN FULL to judge her



I agree with her. I hope you also agree with the widow of the American Sniper who was killed by a man he trusted.
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She is absolutely, 100% right. A whiny pampered athlete who had a couple of good seasons and then faded into mediocrity is "sacrificing" what? Walking on to a football field and getting paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to play a game? Sure, he may get injured - and receive some of the finest medical care available anywhere. He gets public recognition and adoration everywhere, gets millions of dollars to where a cheap shirt with a logo on it made in Bangladesh by workers being paid $4 a day.


How much is he being paid to make this "sacrifice"? Probably more than Chris Kyle earned in his entire life time.


Pat Tillman made a sacrifice, Colin Kaepernick remains a pampered over-paid, self-deluded fool
 
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calamity said:
False.
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True. Why do they kneel during the national anthem? To bring attention to their cause? They can do that at many other times but they CHOOSE to do it during the national anthem.
 
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