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[W:691] Gun control

Are there ANY common sense gun control laws you would consider voting for?

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marke said:
A drunk who tries to shoot an innocent American can be blown away by an armed American defending Americans from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
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You get em ranger
 
vegas giants said:
You get em ranger
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I never shot the man but I certainly caused him to stop planning violence against the innocent one time when I pulled out my loaded pistol to diffuse a dangerous situation. I did it once and two of my friends each did it once also. Cops do it all the time. Guns are for maintaining peace and safety in a violent world.
 
marke said:
I never shot the man but I certainly caused him to stop planning violence against the innocent one time when I pulled out my loaded pistol to diffuse a dangerous situation. I did it once and two of my friends each did it once also. Cops do it all the time. Guns are for maintaining peace and safety in a violent world.
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I will let the parkland parents know
 
I dont see need as a qualifier anywhere in the 2A.
 
Howard the Duck said:
They can take out a plane or a tank. They can make shots from a mile away and there is absolutely no reason for them to be available to civilians.
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If the point of the militia is to secure the free state, then a militia should have the capability to take down aircraft and tanks.

I'm not saying you should be able to buy an RPG at your local gun store, but if your militia has a proper storage facility and training curriculum then yes such things should be allowed to be owned by private entities.
 
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Aberration said:
I dont see need as a qualifier anywhere in the 2A.
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...being necessary to the security of a free State....

nec·es·sar·y
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adjective
1.
required to be done, achieved, or present; needed; essential.
 
concernedpuma said:
Sorry, OC. I have to disagree when you give space to the paranoia of some gun enthusiasts. I believe the Poll question was regarding common sense. You are part of the common. How can you be against yourself?
Also, I think this is the first time I've seen you use the *** default. I understand your passion, but I also think you are better worded than that.
Regards,
CP
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I disagree. The only thing that ever arises from gun control is more gun control and its guaranteed because what they propose will not stop school shootings. So the solution must be more gun control...or something.

Now, in regards to Vegas Giants, his responses are regularly very mocking and inflammatory with no content to forward the conversation other than try to get others to get annoyed with his antics. Knowing the structure of rulings is something that will never happen for him, so he will remain clueless, hence my remark.
 
marke said:
A drunk who tries to shoot an innocent American can be blown away by an armed American defending Americans from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
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You aren't the Batman, a vigilante, or a law enforcement officer. If you are waving your gun around you are as much a criminal as the person to whom you refer.
 
Wayne Jr said:
If the point of the militia is to secure the free state, then a militia should have the capability to take down aircraft and tanks.

I'm not saying you should be able to buy an RPG at your local gun store, but if your militia has a proper storage facility and training curriculum then yes such things should be allowed to be owned by private entities.
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Yeah, that will never happen.
 
Wayne Jr said:
If the point of the militia is to secure the free state, then a militia should have the capability to take down aircraft and tanks.

I'm not saying you should be able to buy an RPG at your local gun store, but if your militia has a proper storage facility and training curriculum then yes such things should be allowed to be owned by private entities.
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This is the real argument. Congratulations.

Militias are groups of people, not individuals.
 
Howard the Duck said:
But that is what the framers of the Constitution intended.
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Yeah, sure, the framers of the Constitution wanted people to have the right to destroy the government they had just created.

These conservatives are too much.
 
vegas giants said:
You don't need a 50 caliber either.
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.50cal is the civilian limit, the organized militia uses larger. They're used for extreme long range precision shots, anti-vehicle operations, and anti-equipment operations.

Civilian applications for 50cal include very large game hunting. Even gun-hating UK allows 50cal for game.
 
MovingPictures said:
Yeah, sure, the framers of the Constitution wanted people to have the right to destroy the government they had just created.

These conservatives are too much.
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Sometimes the truth hurts. I hope you can heal.
 
Wayne Jr said:
.50cal is the civilian limit, the organized militia uses larger. They're used for extreme long range precision shots, anti-vehicle operations, and anti-equipment operations.

Civilian applications for 50cal include very large game hunting. Even gun-hating UK allows 50cal for game.
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Unless you are hunting brontosauruses the .50 is going to ionize your prey.
 
vegas giants said:
I will let the parkland parents know
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They already know that if teachers are going to protect themselves and their students from shooters they will have to be armed themselves because they cannot always depend on cops protecting them.
 
Howard the Duck said:
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Oh look. Someone is bringing up a point refuted earlier that they refused to even try to rebut.

Refresher:

Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases, commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose.
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Some references are then added and then in the next paragraph:

Although we do not undertake an exhaustive historical analysis today of the full scope of the Second Amendment, nothing in our opinion should be
taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms
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So what does these two quotes mean? Simply that the majority decision was being placed with limits, not for new gun control legislation but to state which things were not open for reversal through the Heller decision. Specifically: place limits like schools and courthouses; adjudication of removal like sanity and mental hearings as well as felony convictions; as well as carry licensing.

It is not to say that any new restrictions would be welcome but that current ones would not be overturned by this verdict through this narrow interpretation. As almost every judgment on the modern court contains restrictions to narrow it to the subject matter at hand and not lead to multiple other cases overturning existing precedence.

Now, I can't say you aren't allowed to keep using that little graphic but I think if you won't even try to contradict my posts on the matter you are going to look pretty ignorant and dishonest to keep doing so.
 
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