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Firing Sessions: Will it End Trump's Legal Problems?

End Trump's Legal Problems?

  • Yes

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • No

    Votes: 40 95.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.4%

  • Deep State!

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    42
Empirica said:
So you believe "fleeing lawyers" is in some way evidence that Trump has impending "legal problems"?!

Sorry; I ain't buyin it, Winston...What else ya got?!
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Yes, because they have an uncoachable candidate who is guilty!
 
Winston said:
Yes, because they have an uncoachable candidate who is guilty!
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Just as I suspected...Like the "fake news" media; you've got nothing...

Have a lovely evening, Winston~
 
Empirica said:
Trump doesn't have "legal problems" per se...

What you call "legal problems" is nothing more than a desperate democrat ploy to sabotage the 2018 midterm and hopefully carry over to 2020.

So; the only thing that the firing of Jeff Sessions will accomplish is to further "drain the swamp".

This is a very simple equation, Winston...If you're not helping solve the problem, then you are the problem.
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Trump and legal problems are like peas and carrots..inseparable,Just like Forrest and Jenny...
 
Can someone be pardoned for crimes they have not been charged with/convicted of? While I understand that it was done in the past, that doesn't mean such a pardon would hold up legally if the President were to be charged after he left office. For one thing, his crimes are not likely to have taken place while President. Second, I doubt many would consider it okay to pardon him for all possible crimes he may have ever committed prior to becoming President (or many for even while he was President). That is a horrible precedent to set and should not have been done by Ford. I believe that it could be challenged as being far too vague and all-encompassing. Just because no one challenged what Ford did does not mean that it was constitutional.

Additionally, giving such a pardon to Trump would likely also mean that Pence himself would not get elected/reelected (not sure what that is called) in 2020 (assuming that Trump did resign). Afterall, it is said that one major reason that Ford was not reelected was because he pardoned Nixon as he did. So which would be more important to Pence, getting another shot at the Presidency or pardoning Trump should he resign?
 
Mach said:
As the walls close in on Trump, assuming he's guilty of a variety of crimes, I believe his best legal play is to resign early.

- allows Mike Pence to become POTUS, and to immediately pardon Trump
- more in his control, and less stigma, than impeachment

If Trump is removed by election to a Democrat, there would seem to be no hope of a self pardon.

Nixon got the big fat pardon for his resignation, why should Trump not aim to do the same?
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Because doing such a thing could very well mess up Pence's chances of actually being elected as the President rather than simply becoming it due to the resignation of his former boss. History shows that the voting public does not seem to take too kindly to an incoming President who pardons a resigning President (when he is being accused of some crime or even suspected). Pardons may be within the power of the Presidency (although it honestly is questionable if the power to pardon is that widespread to include crimes that a person has not been charged of), but that does not mean the public will allow abuse of that power without political consequences.
 
Empirica said:
Trump doesn't have "legal problems" per se...

What you call "legal problems" is nothing more than a desperate democrat ploy to sabotage the 2018 midterm and hopefully carry over to 2020.

So; the only thing that the firing of Jeff Sessions will accomplish is to further "drain the swamp".

This is a very simple equation, Winston...If you're not helping solve the problem, then you are the problem.
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Sessions is now part of the swamp? He was hired by Trump.
 
I suspect that the day after midterms Trump will move on interfering with the Mueller investigation, one way or another. I think that a lot rides on the results of the mid terms. We have to remember that trump asserted that he could run the investigation himself. With type of move he could go in replace key peoples with his own people and erase all of the evidence. Of course its more complicated then that, but that wouldn't stop him from trying.
 
Hatuey said:
Sessions is now part of the swamp? He was hired by Trump.
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You need to go over the previous posts and catch yourself up, Hatuey...You're obviously lost.
 
Empirica said:
You need to go over the previous posts and catch yourself up, Hatuey...You're obviously lost.
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Lost where? Was Jeff Sessions part of the swamp?


Your purge is cute.

Sent from Trump Plaza's basement using Putin's MacBook.
 
Winston said:
Would the removal of Jeff Sessions end Trump's legal problems?
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I'm definitely no fan of Jeff Sessions. So normally I wouldn't mind him being fired in the least. But for now he at least serves as being a fence that would have to be hurdled before Trump could get to Rosenstein and Mueller. I think there would be a definite high political cost to President and that is what is giving him pause.
 
Firing Sessions: Will it End Trump's Legal Problems?
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Hell, no!

Trump's legal problems, like everyone's, are of his own making. There isn't one single actual or potential actus reus that Trump was by another forced to commit.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I suspect that the day after midterms Trump will move on interfering with the Mueller investigation, one way or another. I think that a lot rides on the results of the mid terms. We have to remember that trump asserted that he could run the investigation himself. With type of move he could go in replace key peoples with his own people and erase all of the evidence. Of course its more complicated then that, but that wouldn't stop him from trying.
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I'm pretty sure Mueller has his files backed up six ways to Sunday.Any attempt to altar or destroy them would be paramount to political suicide and possible/probable criminal prosecution.
 
ThoughtEx. said:
Nope, he can fire sessions and appoint someone that sqaush's the investigation. Won't change that Republicans are in for a huge loss in the next elections. And the only reason they are going to lose big, is the removal of Trump. Once he is removed, his legal troubles are just beginning.

If I were him on my last day as President, I would drive directly to the airport and fly directly to a country with no extradition.
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Putin will be waiting to welcome Trump to his new home, a massive suite in the newly-constructed Trump Towers Moscow, replete with gold-plated toilets so he'll feel right at home!
 
Logician Man said:
I'm pretty sure Mueller has his files backed up six ways to Sunday.Any attempt to altar or destroy them would be paramount to political suicide and possible/probable criminal prosecution.
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You know that and I know that, but we are talking about trump.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
You know that and I know that, but we are talking about trump.
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Mueller's files have everything to do with Trump, .Why do think Mueller and Team Trump are still negotiating....EDIT: just dawned on me.are you being sarcastic?
 
Logician Man said:
Mueller's files have everything to do with Trump, .Why do think Mueller and Team Trump are still negotiating....EDIT: just dawned on me.are you being sarcastic?
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Trump believes that he has the power and the right to end the investigation at anytime and do whatever he wants. Normally I would say let him try that, but I am not to sure that the republicans would do the right thing anymore. What if the GOP refused to do anything? Trump would have to act before the midterms or if the Dems do not do well. If its the latter perhaps Putin has won...and I do not say that lightly.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
Trump believes that he has the power and the right to end the investigation at anytime and do whatever he wants. Normally I would say let him try that, but I am not to sure that the republicans would do the right thing anymore. What if the GOP refused to do anything? Trump would have to act before the midterms or if the Dems do not do well. If its the latter perhaps Putin has won...and I do not say that lightly.
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Preaching to the choir my friend.I told me wife the very same thing when were eating dinner.Putin,indisputedly is the big winner in all of this.He;s got us right where he wants us...divided,angry,worried,at each other's throats.....and he's doing it with Trump;s help,and quite frankly anyone who doesn't call out Trump's help.. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
 
Empirica said:
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So; the only thing that the firing of Jeff Sessions will accomplish is to further "drain the swamp"....
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You can't really claim that Trump is draining the swamp, when all he did was to fire the alligators that Trump filled the swamp full of.
 
imagep said:
You can't really claim that Trump is draining the swamp, when all he did was to fire the alligators that Trump filled the swamp full of.
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Draining the swamp... by giving them authority to command the investigations into him... apparently? She's lost the narrative.
 
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