Will Trump spend more time in the White House or more time in Prison?

Hawkeye10 said:

Where?

Have you had even one cup of Joe yet?

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Are you categorically denying you have ever posted and/or insinuated you are privy to or have any access whatsoever to ANY inside info regarding Mueller's investigation ? A simple YES or NO will suffice.

Moderate Right said:

A witch hunt is when you investigate someone to death until you find something they did wrong.

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No, it isn't. A witch hunt is where you use the investigation itself to make the person look guilty even though you have no evidence. That's what Republicans did to Hillary. In this particular case, we not only have evidence of crimes, but we have numerous indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas.

Moderate Right said:

Every American can be witch hunted until their crime is discovered and we could all be in jail for something.

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And I'll repeat what I said before since you clearly didn't read it...

Really? Because Republicans spent more than four years doing this exact same thing to Hillary Clinton, and yet couldn't find anything worth charging her with. Yet on the very same day that both Manafort and Cohen were found guilty Trump led the crowd at a campaign event in chanting "lock her up!" We're barely a year and a half into this investigation and every single solitary person in Trump's inner circle is dropping like flies despite having members of their own political party doing the investigating.

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Moderate Right said:

Witch hunts are political and they just keep on going until a wrongdoing is found. No one is innocent.

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Well, if you ever want to start a witch hunt with me you go right ahead. I can assure you nothing will be found.

If it's really so easy then you could have and should have done it to Obama and Hillary. You couldn't because unlike Trump they are in fact both innocent.

Moderate Right said:

11 hours? Really? You're going to compare 11 hours to the Mueller investigation which just keeps on going like the energizer bunny?

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Umm... no, try and pay attention to what's being said to you. The investigation into Hillary Clinton lasted for FOUR years. That's more than three times longer than the investigation into Trump has lasted. It was only at the end of that investigation when Republicans couldn't find anything to charge her with and were desperately grasping at straws that they dragged her in front of Congress and interrogated her under Oath for 11 hours(something Trump has refused to submit to yet) in a desperate attempt to get her to say something that would allow them to pin a perjury charge on her.

This has got to be some of the most pathetic excuse making I have ever heard in my entire life. How do you even look at yourself in the mirror in the morning knowing how dishonest you are? Are you sure you actually have a conscience or a soul at all? I honestly don't think I could bring myself to blatantly distort reality the way you're attempting to. I really hope you seek help after this administration is over.

MrWonka said:

Well, if you ever want to start a witch hunt with me you go right ahead. I can assure you nothing will be found.

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LOL. Everyone has done something. Weren't you ever a teenager? You're telling me that you NEVER go over the speed limit, never? You've never jaywalked?

MrWonka said:

Umm... no, try and pay attention to what's being said to you. The investigation into Hillary Clinton lasted for FOUR years. That's more than three times longer than the investigation into Trump has lasted. It was only at the end of that investigation when Republicans couldn't find anything to charge her with and were desperately grasping at straws that they dragged her in front of Congress and interrogated her under Oath for 11 hours(something Trump has refused to submit to yet) in a desperate attempt to get her to say something that would allow them to pin a perjury charge on her.

This has got to be some of the most pathetic excuse making I have ever heard in my entire life. How do you even look at yourself in the mirror in the morning knowing how dishonest you are? Are you sure you actually have a conscience or a soul at all? I honestly don't think I could bring myself to blatantly distort reality the way you're attempting to. I really hope you seek help after this administration is over.

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You're the one who said 11 hours. I didn't just make it up.

Moderate Right said:

LOL. Everyone has done something. Weren't you ever a teenager? You're telling me that you NEVER go over the speed limit, never? You've never jaywalked?

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I once got a ticket for 'failing to yield right of way to a train' after said train broadsided me in my driver's door in 1969.I actually didn't get to see said ticket until I came out of a 4 day coma. Fine...10 dollars..So i have a rather hideous skeleton in my closet which is a helluva lot better than a skeleton in a grave.

Logician Man said:

Are you categorically denying you have ever posted and/or insinuated you are privy to or have any access whatsoever to ANY inside info regarding Mueller's investigation ? A simple YES or NO will suffice.

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Not at all, I have spoken many times on the subjects of the morality, competence and mission of Mueller.

That tallies as inside information to DimWits.

Reality that they are on the outside of.

Hawkeye10 said:

Not at all, I have spoken many times on the subjects of the morality, competence and mission of Mueller.

That tallies as inside information to DimWits.

Reality that they are on the outside of.

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NOPE...i specifically remember 2 posts you made recenty.One in which you stated "I know for a fact',and one in which you stated 'You don't what I know.' feel free to go through your posts and re-post those 2 claims.Let's examine them together..Pretty sure both were referring to 'investigations.' BTW,your ad hom attacks clearly indicate you are well aware you get schooled here day in and day out as many others have noted and addressed.

Logician Man said:

/////and 'solving a North Korea problem/////// um NO!!! Intel has already detected possible/probable action near nuclear facilities since he visited his lil buddy in N.K...As for the economy he gets credit for riding Obama's coat tails and keeping the economy strong...He will eventually blow that too with one of his many international gaffs.Just a matter of time.

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Rockets no longer being tested , NK taking down launch sites.

Feel free to mention any Obama policy that improved the economy, ever? (Trust me, there are none and I will destroy any attempt you make).

Hawkeye10 said:

Not at all, I have spoken many times on the subjects of the morality, competence and mission of Mueller.

That tallies as inside information to DimWits.

Reality that they are on the outside of.

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Modesty is a virtue rarely to be met thx.

As unbecoming as it can be or seem in certain instances.

At least some people still consider it to be a virtue, while almost everyone acknowledges its presence is indeed rare.

Just sayin' of course and thx again.

Casca XV said:

Rockets no longer being tested , NK taking down launch sites.

Feel free to mention any Obama policy that improved the economy, ever? (Trust me, there are none and I will destroy any attempt you make).

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No one has verified that any 'active' launch sites have been taken down.Indeed our intel satellites have seen signs of new activity of building new sites.Furthermore,we aren't talking about Obama or the economy destroyer dude...try again without the deflection and the unsubstantiated claim while you retain a scintilla of credibility.////trust me//// :lamo

Tangmo said:

Modesty is a virtue rarely to be met thx.

As unbecoming as it can be or seem in certain instances.

At least some people still consider it to be a virtue, while almost everyone acknowledges its presence is indeed rare.

Just sayin' of course and thx again.

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Modesty or actually usually false modesty has a significant role in the wrecking of America.

We all too often stopped speaking truth and stopped pushing each other to be better because we did not want the DimWits to feel bad about themselves.





That was a big mistake.

WillyPete said:

I don't find him going to prison very likely, for the same reasons others have mentioned.

I'll add that I think time and energy spent on this is counter productive, as it destroys the momentum that should be building up for 2020. I feel like the opposition is pretty far behind on that task right now, and doesn't need more distractions.

Rather than spend a good part of the next couple years talking impeachment (and likely failing at it,) I think we'd all be better served selecting the candidate to beat him, and campaigning for a leader with a rational disposition and superior policy.

We consistently learn the wrong lessons. If the Dems put up an ultra left candidate it'll be Trump election to lose, no matter what a PoS he may be.

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if the Dems nominate a neoliberal, they'll lose for sure.

MTAtech said:

Except that Trump has no leverage. His crimes are far more extensive than Nixon’s and include conspiring with a hostile government to throw an American election.

He he can resign or face impeachment and then prosecution.

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Indeed and methinks Mueller wants now to indict Trump outright. It's beginning to look like Mueller has more than enough, meaning we've seen only the beginnings of the criminal case against Trump. The corruption section of the investigation and the Russian corruption of the election process seem to be melding into the one thing. That is, lots of criminal violations from the top down with the family as its locus. Branching out.

So why *****foot with a subpoena to testify under oath, or haggle forever to have a less formal sitdown face to face, and do it ad infinitum. If Scotus is going to be brought into the fight by either side, over who has what authority and jurisdiction, then let Scotus face their own predicament. Because indicted is indicted, which places Trump's neck in the noose while the case gets made to the public -- the whole of it. Or until the rope snaps taught.

Mueller would likely argue the case himself, meaning he'd lay it all out in public to the Court while also finally drawing enormous public attention to him, his case, the stakes -- to include the stakes to the Court. I am confident absolutely Mueller is confident absolutely in his ability to make the case to the American people. It looks very much now that Mueller has fully assembled his suit of armor and may soon be reaching for his mace.

And there's the secondary matter of Mueller making his arguments to the Court while Giuliani continues to drivel, whine and squeal like the Caligula's lawyer that he is. (And Caligula's lover that he could have been.) The reality is that if the WH sees this as the likely development it would explain significantly the hysteria coming from Trump and Giuliani the past month or two. (Two old maid queens in chaos.)

To indict remains a powerful act in the law, justice, jurisprudence. A criminal indictment is serious indeed. And Mueller is the premier lawyer in America to do the whole nine yards in the present time, circumstance and place, i.e. before Scotus. After which it would be first and ten again for the USA.

My sentiments exactly.As soon as one of the legal beagles here stated Mueller had the power to get hold of Trump's tax returns ( assuming that is a statement of fact),it was game over.Mueller is now simply sitting back,crossing his Ts and dotting his Is,and letting Trump tighten the noose with his own words and tweets.

Hawkeye10 said:

Modesty or actually usually false modesty has a significant role in the wrecking of America.

We all too often stopped speaking truth and stopped pushing each other to be better because we did not want the DimWits to feel bad about themselves.





That was a big mistake.

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more ad homs,more lost arguments...comedy gold

Logician Man said:

more ad homs,more lost arguments...comedy gold

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Your powers of discernment suck.

Your civility as well.

Hawkeye10 said:

Your powers of discernment suck.

Your civility as well.

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//// your civility as well /// <------this from the triggered guy who can't seem to post without ad homs..allow me to help you out pro bonne doesn't need 'powers' to discern.One only needs knowledge.Something you are sorely lacking.

Hawkeye10 said:

Modesty or actually usually false modesty has a significant role in the wrecking of America.

We all too often stopped speaking truth and stopped pushing each other to be better because we did not want the DimWits to feel bad about themselves.





That was a big mistake.

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Just as false modesty does exist there also exits a wrong headed arrogance. The supremacy of the self-appointed. While everyone knows more about himself than others know, many others also know more about a state of judicious modesty.

We see Ego in Trump each day, to include many of his Fanboyz. Putin is like Silent Cal Coolidge and a bit smarter -- but then so is a 5th grader smarter than Silent Cal. Beware the man of few words for he has few thought-out thoughts.

Logician Man said:

No one has verified that any 'active' launch sites have been taken down.Indeed our intel satellites have seen signs of new activity of building new sites.Furthermore,we aren't talking about Obama or the economy destroyer dude...try again without the deflection and the unsubstantiated claim while you retain a scintilla of credibility.////trust me//// :lamo

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Every satellite in the area say they are and even Leftist publications like Time are admitting it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-tearing-down-parts-021101742.html

Casca XV said:

Every satellite in the area say they are and even Leftist publications like Time are admitting it. https://www.yahoo.com/news/north-korea-tearing-down-parts-021101742.html

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Evidently you missed the latest news regarding N.K. today and 'suspected' new activity and /or the ceasing of activity (dismantling of established sites.) I'm sure we will get a more definitive answer in due time.