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Does intelligence Community Outrage Over Trump Revoking of Security Clearances Work in His Favor?

Does intelligence Community Outrage Over Trump Revoking of Security Clearances Work in His Favor?


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It's unfortunate that not many people understand why ex-intelligence officers need to have their clearances and that it's being done for deeply partisan reasons. So does the outcry actually help Mr. Swampy, and emboldens his base? I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes. Trolls feed off this stuff and to them (through Mouthpiece Hannity) he is taking down the deep state, one by one!

Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?
 
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It's unfortunate that not many people understand why ex-intelligence officers need to have their clearances and that it's being done for deeply partisan reasons. So does the outcry actually helps Mr. Swampy, and emboldens his base? I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes. Trolls feed off this stuff and to them (through Mouthpiece Hannity) he is taking down the deep state, one by one!

Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?

When ex-intel people abuse the priviledge, they deserve to lose their security clearance.
 
It's unfortunate that not many people understand why ex-intelligence officers need to have their clearances and that it's being done for deeply partisan reasons. So does the outcry actually help Mr. Swampy, and emboldens his base? I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes. Trolls feed off this stuff and to them (through Mouthpiece Hannity) he is taking down the deep state, one by one!

Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?

What "intelligence community outrage" are you referring to?
 
What I find most humorous is that the very people who argued that the CIA was a despicable arm of our government; responsible for torture, secret prison camps, extraordinary rendition, and a whole slew of other "very bad things" are now claiming they are "heroes of the people."

Heroes like Mr. Brennan who the Left now argues deserves to retain their secret clearances as not only a badge of honor, but proof that their "wisdom" and "advice" are a necessary adjunct to good government as long as they shall live.

Oh please! :doh

Again, if their advice and services are ever needed again, they can be given temporary clearances for the purposes of such assistance, removable at will. Meanwhile, they can be media pundits without access to classified insider information from the Old Boy network which I believe is where so many leaks have been coming from over the last 2 years.

IMO this push to make this a major issue does nothing but help the Administration, as it changes no minds of supporters, but only points out how way off base detractors have become to those as yet uncommitted.
 
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Why would a sane person want such childish action to work in his favor? Anything Trump does, regardless of how thoughtless or ridiculous, his admirers flock to defend him. It's almost comical.
 
When ex-intel people abuse the priviledge, they deserve to lose their security clearance.

How did he abuse his privilege? But exercising his 1st Amendment rights?
 
How did he abuse his privilege? But exercising his 1st Amendment rights?

Of course he didn't abuse the privilege.

But Trump supporters feel obligated to try to manufacture some justification for Trump's assaults on the First Amendment.
 
It's unfortunate that not many people understand why ex-intelligence officers need to have their clearances and that it's being done for deeply partisan reasons. So does the outcry actually help Mr. Swampy, and emboldens his base? I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes. Trolls feed off this stuff and to them (through Mouthpiece Hannity) he is taking down the deep state, one by one!

Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?

Red:
I may be among them because my understanding is that (1) sitting USIC people, particularly the top level principals, need former holders of those positions to have clearances so that their predecessors' experience and insights can be plumbed and (2) the nation loses neither continuity nor institutional knowledge.

To wit, the last "deliverable" I completed prior to fully retiring from my comparatively insignificant final position as a senior principal in a management consultancy called for me to compose a career spanning (both before and after my firm was acquired by the one from which I retired) "brain dump" of lessons learned -- what worked, what didn't, and, in each case, why and why not -- thoughts about key client contacts, impressions about up-and-comers in the firm, and more.

Hell, even after completing my retirement process, I get a call or three a week asking for input about "this or that." "Can you go into a bit more detail about the culture at XYZ firm?" "I'm finding it tough to develop and ideal rapport with "Mary" at "XYZ. Would you have a few minutes to talk about her style and what things I might try to improve upon the relationship?" Quite simply, try as one might, there's no way one's going to recall and record every nuance of context that may be pertinent, but an in-person interaction jogs all manners of memories.

Just as such is so in my professional realm -- managing and implementing change -- it is so too in the intelligence arena. That it is is why former leadership-level officials in the intel community retain their clearances. The "formers" have left; they don't need to have clearances. The folks who follow them need them to have clearances because without them, the successors can't discuss certain matters, or elements of certain matters, with them. It's for their successors' benefit not their own.

...But that's my comprehension of the matter. What is the nature of the matter that you presume many folks don't understand?
 
Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?

Oh, Lord! I'm going to hope that even Trump isn't that pettily puerile.


I imagine he'll incrementally dole out the security-clearance denials to deflect discourse away from news of some other manifestation of his dissoluteness, but the notion that he'd do so directly as a tit-for-tat action in response to Omarosa's tapes tests even my comparative dearth of disbelief about the depths of depravity to which Trump will descend.
 
Red:
I may be among them because my understanding is that (1) sitting USIC people, particularly the top level principals, need former holders of those positions to have clearances so that their predecessors' experience and insights can be plumbed and (2) the nation loses neither continuity nor institutional knowledge.

To wit, the last "deliverable" I completed prior to fully retiring from my comparatively insignificant final position as a senior principal in a management consultancy called for me to compose a career spanning (both before and after my firm was acquired by the one from which I retired) "brain dump" of lessons learned -- what worked, what didn't, and, in each case, why and why not -- thoughts about key client contacts, impressions about up-and-comers in the firm, and more.

Hell, even after completing my retirement process, I get a call or three a week asking for input about "this or that." "Can you go into a bit more detail about the culture at XYZ firm?" "I'm finding it tough to develop and ideal rapport with "Mary" at "XYZ. Would you have a few minutes to talk about her style and what things I might try to improve upon the relationship?" Quite simply, try as one might, there's no way one's going to recall and record every nuance of context that may be pertinent, but an in-person interaction jogs all manners of memories.

Just as such is so in my professional realm -- managing and implementing change -- it is so too in the intelligence arena. That it is is why former leadership-level officials in the intel community retain their clearances. The "formers" have left; they don't need to have clearances. The folks who follow them need them to have clearances because without them, the successors can't discuss certain matters, or elements of certain matters, with them. It's for their successors' benefit not their own.

...But that's my comprehension of the matter. What is the nature of the matter that you presume many folks don't understand?

After the way he's been spouting off about Trump, nobody in the Trump administration is going to call Brennan and ask his opinion about anything. They can't trust the asshole. So, there's no great loss in losing HIS continuity. In fact, we are better off without it.
 
Red:
I may be among them because my understanding is that (1) sitting USIC people, particularly the top level principals, need former holders of those positions to have clearances so that their predecessors' experience and insights can be plumbed and (2) the nation loses neither continuity nor institutional knowledge.

To wit, the last "deliverable" I completed prior to fully retiring from my comparatively insignificant final position as a senior principal in a management consultancy called for me to compose a career spanning (both before and after my firm was acquired by the one from which I retired) "brain dump" of lessons learned -- what worked, what didn't, and, in each case, why and why not -- thoughts about key client contacts, impressions about up-and-comers in the firm, and more.

Hell, even after completing my retirement process, I get a call or three a week asking for input about "this or that." "Can you go into a bit more detail about the culture at XYZ firm?" "I'm finding it tough to develop and ideal rapport with "Mary" at "XYZ. Would you have a few minutes to talk about her style and what things I might try to improve upon the relationship?" Quite simply, try as one might, there's no way one's going to recall and record every nuance of context that may be pertinent, but an in-person interaction jogs all manners of memories.

Just as such is so in my professional realm -- managing and implementing change -- it is so too in the intelligence arena. That it is is why former leadership-level officials in the intel community retain their clearances. The "formers" have left; they don't need to have clearances. The folks who follow them need them to have clearances because without them, the successors can't discuss certain matters, or elements of certain matters, with them. It's for their successors' benefit not their own.

...But that's my comprehension of the matter. What is the nature of the matter that you presume many folks don't understand?

I believe it boils down to if your client asked you about information or access to information that you lost or "your dog ate," how will that make you look on the world stage? I'm sure you are an expert in whatever it is that you do, but I'm saying it's nice to be able to back up what you know with evidence if one of your clients is ever accused of anything illegal.
 
I believe it boils down to if your client asked you about information or access to information that you lost or "your dog ate," how will that make you look on the world stage? I'm sure you are an expert in whatever it is that you do, but I'm saying it's nice to be able to back up what you know with evidence if one of your clients is ever accused of anything illegal.

Red:
No, that's not the central theme of what I wrote.

Blue:
Okay. That's a good thing to be able to do and it's not what I wrote about.
 
It's unfortunate that not many people understand why ex-intelligence officers need to have their clearances and that it's being done for deeply partisan reasons. So does the outcry actually help Mr. Swampy, and emboldens his base? I think the answer to that question is a resounding yes. Trolls feed off this stuff and to them (through Mouthpiece Hannity) he is taking down the deep state, one by one!

Is it gonna be one "Deep-State" agent for one Omarosa tape?

GOP Senators have sold out this Nation.

Wait for their responses when #45 pulls the security clearances of Mueller and Company.

#45 supporters of the GOPutins are indeed ‘The Enemy Within’.
 
Oh, Lord! I'm going to hope that even Trump isn't that pettily puerile.


I imagine he'll incrementally dole out the security-clearance denials to deflect discourse away from news of some other manifestation of his dissoluteness, but the notion that he'd do so directly as a tit-for-tat action in response to Omarosa's tapes tests even my comparative dearth of disbelief about the depths of depravity to which Trump will descend.

For whichever assault on Freedom you can think of, there is NO Low to which #45 will sink.
 
What "intelligence community outrage" are you referring to?

Start with Republican General David Petraeus, not that he will make a difference with your ILK.
 
For whichever assault on Freedom you can think of, there is NO Low to which #45 will sink.
With each passing remark he makes and "stunt" he pulls, it seems that is so.
 
Start with Republican General David Petraeus, not that he will make a difference with your ILK.

Has he expressed outrage over Trump yanking Brennan's clearance?
 
GOP Senators have sold out this Nation.

Wait for their responses when #45 pulls the security clearances of Mueller and Company.

#45 supporters of the GOPutins are indeed ‘The Enemy Within’.

Hyperbole will get you nowhere...except to the land of no credibility.
 
He is a signatory of the document I linked you. Are you going to be asinine and dismiss it again?

Oh. Okay. Well, my previous comment applies to him as well, then.

Oh...wait...did you think I would have a different view because of him? Sorry...you are wrong.
 
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