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Mueller Russian Collusion Investigation turns from Trump to Clinton: Is that good?

Mueller Russia Collusion Investigation turns from Trump to Clinton: Is that good?

  • YES - in fairness any possible Russian collusion should be investigated

    Votes: 18 78.3%

  • NO - it's just a political witch hunt to get Hillary

    Votes: 1 4.3%

  • NO - only investigations into Trump collusion are valid

    Votes: 4 17.4%
  • Total voters
    23
American said:
Do you accept the fact that WE try to influence the elections in other countries, and will continue to do that? Do you accept the fact that Russia/USSR has been trying/influencing out elections for 50 years, proof or not?
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A foreign power hacked into our election system, and as a good trumpie you couldn't care less. To your kind its all about winning at any cost.
 
This is becoming painful to know what outlet to trust, they are all not even close to each other. While I'd like all the facts to come out I find it highly unlikely they will.
 
MrMike said:
I already know the righties will be 100% behind that type of shift in the investigation because that's the nature of partisan hypocrisy in politics (see I'm being honest here). So, will the Left support the expansion of the Mueller Russian Collusion investigation to include Hillary and her campaign or will they declare it to just be a witch-hunt (unintended pun)?

The reason I ask and poll this question, is because of the article I read a little bit ago.

Excerpt:

"As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality."


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/
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No, as any rational adult knows and can determine by reading the underlying 'investigation' by Lee, there doesn't appear to be any credible evidence whatsoever that there was any collusion on the part of Clinton.

Breathless, vapid and wildly conspiratorial speculation? Sure, but nothing indicating any collusion of the nature that Trump's admin is under investigation for.
 
MrMike said:
Show me all of the evidence so we can all determine the impact/effect of this "influence". I'd like to understand how Facebook memes and several accounts swung the election either way considering I'd never seen them in my feed. I'd also like to understand how those dastardly Russian's influenced Hillary to bypass campaigning in several states she lost and how they influenced her to say stupid **** about masses of voters.

We can all learn from this... so I'm with you to find out what/how/how much and how to stop it.
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My wife is a big Bernie fan.

The berine feeds were FULL of anti-hillary propaganda.

And apparently a good number of them voted for trump in protest.

Enough to have turned the tide in that handful of states.

Put simply, persuasion works.

If it didn't businesses wouldn't be paying $10 billion a year on PR alone.

Wouldn't have practitioners in direct employ.

All political campaigns and speeches wouldn't be crafted by practitioners.

Our military wouldn't use it against our enemies.
 
Floridafan said:
A foreign power hacked into our election system, and as a good trumpie you couldn't care less. To your kind its all about winning at any cost.
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Hillary and her husband took millions of dollars directly from the Russians and as a good Liberal, you couldn't care less. To your kind, it's all about winning at any cost.

You see how that works? :lamo
 
American said:
Do you accept the fact that WE try to influence the elections in other countries, and will continue to do that? Do you accept the fact that Russia/USSR has been trying/influencing out elections for 50 years, proof or not?
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United States and Russia are not equals in society, government, politics, culture, history, civilization. Not in the past, not in the present and not going forward. Only Putin-Trump-Fanboyz say the two are the same. That is, those who want the USA to be more like Russia than the other way around.
 
American said:
Do you accept the fact that WE try to influence the elections in other countries, and will continue to do that? Do you accept the fact that Russia/USSR has been trying/influencing out elections for 50 years, proof or not?
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When somebody in those foreign countries colludes with us to do it, do you think they are subject to sanctions by their respective governments?

I do.
 
What if...? said:
When somebody in those foreign countries colludes with us to do it, do you think they are subject to sanctions by their respective governments?

I do.
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I think you should answer my questions.
 
Tangmo said:
United States and Russia are not equals in society, government, politics, culture, history, civilization. Not in the past, not in the present and not going forward. Only Putin-Trump-Fanboyz say the two are the same. That is, those who want the USA to be more like Russia than the other way around.
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Nice dodge, keep dancing.
 
MrMike said:
Hillary and her husband took millions of dollars directly from the Russians and as a good Liberal, you couldn't care less. To your kind, it's all about winning at any cost.

You see how that works? :lamo
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Its noted my dear, that your kind refused to admit that Russia influenced our election. Are all of you white nationalists thinking the same way?
 
Tangmo said:
United States and Russia are not equals in society, government, politics, culture, history, civilization. Not in the past, not in the present and not going forward. Only Putin-Trump-Fanboyz say the two are the same. That is, those who want the USA to be more like Russia than the other way around.
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That would be almost like bringing a red-reset button on your first meeting with Russia eh? Or being caught on open-microphone asking for the Russian foreign minister to let Putin know you needed time to get past the upcoming election before you could do him a favor?

Got it...
 
MrMike said:
https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/
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The source - RealClearInvestigations - has a "right-center" bias.

Media Bias/Fact Check: Real Clear Investigations

Analysis / Bias

RealClearInvestigations reports and links to news from other outlets and also produces its own original stories. In review, RealClearInvestigations frequently uses emotionally loaded headlines such as this: “2016 Trump Tower Meeting Looks Increasingly Like a Setup by Russian and Clinton Operatives” and “Mueller Still Relying on Discredited Steele Dossier.” Generally, story selection moderately favors the Right and RealClearInvestigations takes a Pro-Trump stance. RealClearInvestigations typically sources their information to credible sources such as the The Hill, Wall Street Journal, NBC News and the Washington Examiner, however they also source factually mixed sources such as Fox News who in turn sourced the same information from another factually mixed source the Daily Caller, owned by conservative political commentator Tucker Carlson. A factual search reveals they have not failed a fact check, however some of the sources they utilize have failed fact checks such as the conspiracy website, Zerohedge. Overall, we rate RealClearInvestigations Right-Center Biased based on story selection that moderately favors the Right and Mixed for factual reporting due to utilizing several sources that have failed fact checks.
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I'll pass thanks.
 
MrMike said:
I already know the righties will be 100% behind that type of shift in the investigation because that's the nature of partisan hypocrisy in politics (see I'm being honest here). So, will the Left support the expansion of the Mueller Russian Collusion investigation to include Hillary and her campaign or will they declare it to just be a witch-hunt (unintended pun)?

The reason I ask and poll this question, is because of the article I read a little bit ago.

Excerpt:

"As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality."


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/
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If there is any evidence of criminal activity, it should be investigated. Currently, there is no such publicly known evidence about Clinton and Russian “collusion “.
 
MrMike said:
Hillary and her husband took millions of dollars directly from the Russians and as a good Liberal, you couldn't care less. To your kind, it's all about winning at any cost.

You see how that works? :lamo
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We see that Trump is on the ropes in his own corner. And Guiliani is fanning him with a Trump hotel towel. Omarosa is playing her tapes over the pa system. The Fanboyz are scrambling.
 
MrMike said:
That would be almost like bringing a red-reset button on your first meeting with Russia eh? Or being caught on open-microphone asking for the Russian foreign minister to let Putin know you needed time to get past the upcoming election before you could do him a favor?

Got it...
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Got nuthin but corned beef hash.
 
American said:
Do you accept the fact that WE try to influence the elections in other countries, and will continue to do that? Do you accept the fact that Russia/USSR has been trying/influencing out elections for 50 years, proof or not?
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So you do not think the US should investigate potential crimes?
 
MrMike said:
I already know the righties will be 100% behind that type of shift in the investigation because that's the nature of partisan hypocrisy in politics (see I'm being honest here). So, will the Left support the expansion of the Mueller Russian Collusion investigation to include Hillary and her campaign or will they declare it to just be a witch-hunt (unintended pun)?

The reason I ask and poll this question, is because of the article I read a little bit ago.

Excerpt:

"As we said, the only real collusion appears to be on the part of the Clinton campaign — aided by the Obama administration, CIA chief John Brennan and a handful of high-level officials at the Department of Justice and FBI.

What's next? It's possible the collusion investigation soon will turn from Trump to Clinton. If so, it could lead to more resignations and possibly jail time for those involved. That includes perhaps even Hillary Clinton, who sits at the political epicenter of all this illegality."


https://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/russian-collusion-hillary-clinton/
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I would like to believe that honorable people would want the truth despite what they partisan loyalties might be. But I no longer believe that is the case by much of anybody on the left and a lot of those on the right.

I don't know anybody who had any problem with looking to see if accusations about illegal collusion between the Russians and the Trump Campaign had any credibility. But when it was quickly obvious that there was no 'there' there, that should have been immediately dropped.

However, if by some miracle we actually do have enough honor left in Washington to expose actual corruption, illegal or improper manipulation, and dishonesty by those in the FBI, Justice Dept., administration, and/or their contractors, the country will be infinitely better off by knowing the actual truth instead of trying to manufacture a scenario that they want to be true.
 
What if...? said:
When somebody in those foreign countries colludes with us to do it, do you think they are subject to sanctions by their respective governments? I do.
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He, and the rest of his GOP, continue to bastardly and most falsely equate what the USA has done in the past to the Soviets and Red China.

The GOP has sunk so low that they now compare the USA equally with Russian Murderous Thugs colluding with GOPs in 2016 and back to 2014.

This ongoing Russian/GOP Collusion continues Unabated, as we know for a fact in Georgia, Missouri, Florida and now Ohio. Two Dozen other States have been broken into by the Russians.

And Now, GOPs Deny Paper Ballots. We are MOST CERTAINLY in a Constitutional Crisis.
 
Redress said:
So you do not think the US should investigate potential crimes?
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Sure, but the political outrage over something that happens all the time, is out of place given they never investigated it in earlier times. And why not a balance investigation like including the part where Hillary's campaign paid for the dossier? All angle should then be investigated. But that's not happening, so clearly we have a biased special counsel, because he's not limited by Comey letting her off the hook.
 
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