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Will you vote for more regulations, higher taxes and Government intrusion in your life in November?

Will you be voting be voting for Democrats in November?

  • Yes I am voting for the Democrats in the upcoming election

    Votes: 61 57.0%

  • No I am voting GOP

    Votes: 31 29.0%

  • OTHER Below

    Votes: 15 14.0%
  • Total voters
    107
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HumblePi said:
So by your definition, the Democratic Party is now the new Party of Lincoln?
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What I'm saying is that the republicans believed in classic liberalism during Lincolns time in office.
 
ataraxia said:
All you have to do is look at how the south is voting today vs how it was voting then to answer that question for yourself.

The switch happened in the 1960s over a few very short years. We even know exactly HOW it happened: Nixon’s Southern Strategy- a brilliant piece of political strategy by any standard- by another group of lying GOP crooks- exploiting the latent racism, anger, and ignorant fears of the masses to protect the cultural hegemony and social privilege of the very few at the very top- today’s version of the plantation owners.

That’s why it’s so important for them to continue to keep this level of anger and fear, division and hate, stoked to a white hit fever temperature through their propaganda channels like Fox. The whole strategy depends on it. Be afraid. Be very afraid: blacks, Hispanics, immigrants, gays, women, Muslims, Chinese, Mexico, etc, etc.... heck, let’s even throw in the Canadians and Europeans in there too while we are at it. The more hate and fear the better. Everyone is a boogeyman out to getcha. Males are under siege. Whites are under siege. All good Christians are under siege. War on Christmas. Fear, fear, fear. Anger, anger, anger. Tribalism and division. It’s us vs them.

But you know what they say: you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
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Even the hate party got off kilter when the chose to talk the language of the haters in this country for their votes , it is a major block of any society. But they dragged these low lives from under their slime rocks where the norms and morality of this country kept them in hiding , that releasing a massive group of haters when they saw someone in power who had the same hate the same voice as them. So they crawled out from under their slime rocks and that's who we are contending with right now. Like I said even the right wasn't prepared for the monster they unleashed.
 
ataraxia said:
All you have to do is look at how the south is voting today vs how it was voting then to answer that question for yourself.

The switch happened in the 1960s over a few very short years. We even know exactly HOW it happened: Nixon’s Southern Strategy- a brilliant piece of political strategy by any standard- by another group of lying GOP crooks- exploiting the latent racism, anger, and ignorant fears of the masses to protect the cultural hegemony and social privilege of the very few at the very top- today’s version of the plantation owners.

That’s why it’s so important for them to continue to keep this level of anger and fear, division and hate, stoked to a white hit fever temperature through their propaganda channels like Fox. The whole strategy depends on it. Be afraid. Be very afraid: blacks, Hispanics, immigrants, gays, women, Muslims, Chinese, Mexico, etc, etc.... heck, let’s even throw in the Canadians and Europeans in there too while we are at it. The more hate and fear the better. Everyone is a boogeyman out to getcha. Males are under siege. Whites are under siege. All good Christians are under siege. War on Christmas. Fear, fear, fear. Anger, anger, anger. Tribalism and division. It’s us vs them.

But you know what they say: you can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time. But you can’t fool all of the people all of the time.
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The rights hate list gets bigger all the time. But their hate of women showed to prominently in the Kavanaugh hearing, that is the straw that broke the camels back.
 
jbander said:
Even the hate party got off kilter when the chose to talk the language of the haters in this country for their votes , it is a major block of any society. But they dragged these low lives from under their slime rocks where the norms and morality of this country kept them in hiding , that releasing a massive group of haters when they saw someone in power who had the same hate the same voice as them. So they crawled out from under their slime rocks and that's who we are contending with right now. Like I said even the right wasn't prepared for the monster they unleashed.
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It's a bird!

It's a plane!

No, it's HATEMAN....

Able to slander and libel continously....

Hyperbole was never so Hyperbolic....

Diguised as mild mannered jbander HATEMAN waits to spread his foul nonsense far and wide....
 
Fledermaus said:
It's a bird!

It's a plane!

No, it's HATEMAN....

Able to slander and libel continously....

Hyperbole was never so Hyperbolic....

Diguised as mild mannered jbander HATEMAN waits to spread his foul nonsense far and wide....
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So far the Right murdered one protester. The Left none.


Hate is on the Right.
 
jbander said:
Even the hate party got off kilter when the chose to talk the language of the haters in this country for their votes , it is a major block of any society. But they dragged these low lives from under their slime rocks where the norms and morality of this country kept them in hiding , that releasing a massive group of haters when they saw someone in power who had the same hate the same voice as them. So they crawled out from under their slime rocks and that's who we are contending with right now. Like I said even the right wasn't prepared for the monster they unleashed.
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I know. Now we have Steve Bannon going to France and telling them to wear the label of racism "with pride". Dear Lord. What an international embarrassment.
 
calamity said:
So far the Right murdered one protester. The Left none.


Hate is on the Right.
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Calamity I threw out Fledermaus, because he's a waste and he is on my ignore list and will keep it that way.
 
jbander said:
What a laugh, the only thing that was fake was the hate party committees that the house put together for all the same lies , what was it, 7 commissions in a row all finding her not guilty, just to start another and leak lies all during each committee's. We are going to do the same with your pig kavanaugh
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Hillary was found not guilty of destroying emails subpoenaed by Congress? No, that never happened. She was never even tried for those crimes because democrats agreed with Comey's assessment that she did not mean to break the laws she clearly broke.
 
concernedpuma said:
Curious. You accept you will be voting Democrat, but then elucidate Republican values. You may want to revisit your choice of compatriots.
Republican's are with you, but no one knows what the Democratic Party really is today.
Regards,
CP
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Since when were smart rules, a strong national defense and effective tax policy exclusively Republican issues?
 
marke said:
Hillary was found not guilty of destroying emails subpoenaed by Congress? No, that never happened. She was never even tried for those crimes because democrats agreed with Comey's assessment that she did not mean to break the laws she clearly broke.
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Who care and who said that I did,
 
findings from the liars party committees 6 in a roe A lengthy House Committee investigation led by Republicans, and the longest and costliest in history, finally published its findings this June, and while it did find security at the consulate lacking and was critical of the administration in general, the report found no evidence of wrongdoing by Clinton.

Select Committee on Benghazi Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-SC) put it best: “Nothing could have affected what occurred in Benghazi.”
 
Findings for the liar party on their investigation of Clinton , 6 of them "In parallel to the Benghazi investigation, it was revealed that Clinton used a private email server while Secretary of State, which remained the focal point of attacks against her despite the FBI concluding: “Our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case… We cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges … We are expressing to [the Justice Department] our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.”
 
Finding of the liars committee on Clinton (6 in a row)"Filegate
With so many investigations, it was almost inevitable that something would turn up, and in 1996 it appeared that something had. Investigators found hundreds of FBI files on government employees, including congressional Republicans, that had been illegally requested and received by Craig Livingstone, director of the White House’s Office of Personnel Security.

In the end, the brewing scandal was investigated by the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee, the Senate Judiciary Committee, and the Whitewater Independent Counsel, but again no one found any wrongdoing on the part of the Clintons.

Said Federal Judge Royce Lamberth: “After years of litigation, endless depositions, the fictionalized portrayal of this lawsuit and its litigants on television, this court is left to conclude that with the lawsuit, to quote Gertrude Stein, ‘there’s no there there.’”"
 
Findings of the liars party committee96 of them)"Vince Foster
The death of Vince Foster began as a tragedy, became something of a scandal, then became a full-blown conspiracy theory that refused to die, which was defibrillated once again by Donald Trump on the campaign trail.

When White House lawyer Vince Foster committed suicide in a Virginia park in 1993, conservatives were quick to raise questions of foul play. In the end, the Clintons were vindicated entirely. Foster had long-struggled with depression, and investigations by both the FBI and the Justice Department ruled the death a suicide.

According to the report by Ken Starr: “In sum, based on all of the available evidence, which is considerable, the Office of Independent Counsel agrees with the conclusion reached by every official entity that has examined the issue: Mr. Foster committed suicide by gunshot in Fort Marcy Park on July 20, 1993.”"
 
Investigation of the liars party (^ in total)"Never forget Travelgate. Just after Bill Clinton entered the White House, seven people from the White House’s travel department were let go. Conservatives claimed the presidential couple were trying to make room for more Clinton allies, and that the first lady was behind the firings, and — again — brought in the FBI to investigate.

And again, the FBI didn’t find anything. This being the Clintons, the Justice Department and a separate congressional panel investigated the firings, but in the end even Ken Starr and his successor Robert Ray had to admit there was no evidence of wrongdoing.

From Independent Counsel, Robert Ray: “The evidence, however, is insufficient to show that Mrs. Clinton knowingly intended to influence the Travel Office decision.”"
 
Investigation of the liars party ( 6 inn a row) "Whitewater
The very first major Clinton scandal became something of a blueprint for the others to follow: a massive public investigation targeting the Clintons manages to uncover some shady stuff, and even garner a few jail sentences, just nothing on the Clintons themselves.

The scandal hinged on contributions the Clintons made to a real-estate entity known as Whitewater Development Corporation. While the Clintons’ partners did eventually face legal action a lengthy public investigation found no wrongdoing on the Clintons’ part.

Again from Robert Ray: “This office determined that the evidence was insufficient to prove to a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that either President or Mrs. Clinton knowingly participated in any criminal conduct.”" All from 6 Clinton Investigations That Came Up Empty
 
When us American patriots get back the house this will be the story of Kavanaugh life until he is gone. The Democrats already said the first day they get the house back, the investigation of this pig starts that day. Committee after committee while leaking lies about Your pig daily , the committee will ask for any stories that can incriminate the pile of **** for anything from his past of this pile of ship put on the supreme court by the other pile of ****. He was put on there by scum bag so it is a automatic that he has a major criminal background . His life story will be laid out from the time he was born till now. This pig will fall 95% sure of that. Then we have to change the law giving the supreme court a limit of time they can be in office. Then everything that the hate party judges did will be turned around lkike they never happened , and like the hate party we will call it democracy as they did. This is going to be fun. Just watch haters , this is your future,
 
DifferentDrummr said:
Sorry, but I fail to see how the lack of permanency (in any government) has any direct correlation with the degree of socialism that a given government adapts.

If you've got any data to prove me wrong, do tell.
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May have been lost in the overall post. I was addressing your writing of "Here's a secret: no government in history has EVER been able to exist without at least some degree of socialism."
Regards,
CP
 
no but I will vote for them for everyone else
 
concernedpuma said:
Curious. You accept you will be voting Democrat, but then elucidate Republican values. You may want to revisit your choice of compatriots.
Republican's are with you, but no one knows what the Democratic Party really is today.
Regards,
CP
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True, we have DeSantis and Trump to remind us what they see republicans standing for: Make America Hate Again.

Democrats are what they have been for decades. While republicans tend to stand for the interests of business (and at times bigots), democrats tend to be the party of “everyone else,” and thus harder to define.
 
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