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If Trump Fires Mueller, Should He Be Impeached?

If Trump Fires Mueller should he be impeached?

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Redress said:
An investigator investigating Trump. It is not a random investigator. SHould the president be able to never be investigated?



Special prosecutor/investigators take on average about 4 years to complete an investigation. Mueller is barely over one year into his.



Impeachment would not undo the election, nor is it an attempt to do so. If Trump where impeached and convicted, Clinton would not become president, Pence would. Hardly ideal for democrats.



Nor is any one trying to.
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I know how the constitution works still thanks god ! But I’m asking if we knew that Russia was behind the election then why didn’t we have another election to actually find out who won? Like a runoff election that was secured by the federal agencies. Because I’m going to question this every single time if a Republican wins will we have a investigation?


Can’t censor this Patriot
 
TheRepublican said:
I know how the constitution works still thanks god ! But I’m asking if we knew that Russia was behind the election then why didn’t we have another election to actually find out who won? Like a runoff election that was secured by the federal agencies. Because I’m going to question this every single time if a Republican wins will we have a investigation?


Can’t censor this Patriot
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We do not have a mechanism for another election. Once the process is done, it is done. And the possibility of impeaching Trump if he got rid of Mueller to stop the investigation has exactly jack and **** to do with the election.

And still no one is trying to censor you. That is like me bragging no one can stop me from taking a ****.
 
TheRepublican said:
No why should we impeach trump because he fired an investigator?
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Because he would be obstructing an investigation into himself.

I am tired of hearing about this didn’t Gowdy yell at Rosenstein to finish the hell up!? I’m tired of hearing about it because you know this is how I look at it is one of the two evils won. The favorite sin lost because she didn't try to change her position from the previous administration! You know people were tired of the same thing. I am sick of hearing about this because if Russia messes with our election, do you think that we have to do another special election to see who won? What if everyone voted the same way would it be Russia fault if Trump still won?


Can’t censor this Patriot
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Gowdy has no purview over Mueller.
 
MovingPictures said:
As much as I hate say, right now Trump is pretty much above the law.

The only thing holding him back from doing the unthinkable is the midterms. He's hoping that maybe, just maybe the GOP can hang on to the House, which will mean that there will continue to be no oversight or accountability, and he will then be free to do what he wants.

Thing is though, the Democrats continue to swing ruby red districts by massive margins.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/326494-ohio-12-dead-heat.html
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If the Dems get off there duffs his time. Turnout will be crucial. A low turnout in Nov will benefit the GOP.
 
Jetboogieman said:
So, if Trumps fires Sessions, or Rosenstein, or whatever route he has to go through to shut down the investigation into himself, should he then be impeached?

I would say yes, absolutely.

Not that I think it would happen because Republicans don't possess this little thing called a spine.

But beyond whatever petty excuses someone wants to give about Hillary, or anyone else.

On paper, the most powerful person in the world, quashing an investigation into himself should not be acceptable to anyone that values good governance or accountability.
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Where is the he should be in jail option?
 
yankintx said:
If the Dems get off there duffs his time. Turnout will be crucial. A low turnout in Nov will benefit the GOP.
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All signs in Ohio point to that happening, we'll see.
 
Bucky said:
Firing Mueller is well within President's trumps authority.
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Ryan, McConnell and Kelly will NEVER allow Mueller to be fired. Mueller is one of them. #45 isn’t.

This is a most difficult time for both the Left and Right to come to grips with what we’re experiencing, for entirely different reasons.

We WILL Heal after Labor Day. We will Celebrate All that is Incredible of our Nation — Then we will debate ISSUES, not the actual Politicians Entrusted to act on Those ISSUES.
 
yankintx said:
Its long overdue Congress act to protect the Special Council. I have written to my Mass Rep in Congress and expressed my view.
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Absolutely. Nothing will happen until after Nov. But I believe it will happen, if the Dems gain the House..
 
MovingPictures said:
As much as I hate say, right now Trump is pretty much above the law.

The only thing holding him back from doing the unthinkable is the midterms. He's hoping that maybe, just maybe the GOP can hang on to the House, which will mean that there will continue to be no oversight or accountability, and he will then be free to do what he wants.

Thing is though, the Democrats continue to swing ruby red districts by massive margins.

https://www.debatepolitics.com/general-political-discussion/326494-ohio-12-dead-heat.html
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If the Dems prevail in the House, it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the interim between Nov 6th and the seating of the new House in 2019. Real interesting, I think. And a little scary.
 
PleasantValley said:
To my sadness, I voted NO.
I sadly voted NO because Rule of law died in this country on July, 5th, 2016.
The elites have been proven to be above the law, can get away with anything they want to, and are not answerable to anyone.
It does not matter what party they belong to. As long as they are in power, they can do as they please.
This was blatantly apparent on July 5th, 2016.

Now that another party is in power, they will do exactly the same.

We are now merely some third world country run by rulers who weaponize their law enforcement people to go after their political enemies.

This is what we ARE and have become. It started then, and will not stop.
We have to see it for what it really is.

There is no Rule of Law for them. There is no accountability of the elites, and there is no blind justice.

I can sadly point to exactly what day it died.

As long as the DOJ and FBI heads are POLITICAL appointments, it will remain so.
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That date doesn't ring a bell with me. What is it that happened?
 
MovingPictures said:
All signs in Ohio point to that happening, we'll see.
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All signs in August do not mean alot come November. Complacency could kill the democrats chance, as could poor messaging between now and November.
 
Chomsky said:
That date doesn't ring a bell with me. What is it that happened?
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That was the date the FBI announced it did not recommend trying to prosecute Clinton.
 
TurtleDude said:
you've been calling for Trump's impeachment since about the day he won. what exactly would be the legal grounds for your pipe dream?
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The Ford standard, “An impeachable offense is whatever a majority of the House of Representatives considers it to be at a given moment in history”
 
TurtleDude said:
you've been calling for Trump's impeachment since about the day he won. what exactly would be the legal grounds for your pipe dream?
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If he did a Saturday Nigh Massacre type thing, firing whoever he needed to until he got some one to fire Mueller, a strong argument could be made for obstruction of justice. That is the premise of this thread. I do not think it is likely to happen, but it does seem more likely today than it used to.
 
Chomsky said:
If the Dems prevail in the House, it's going to be interesting to see what happens in the interim between Nov 6th and the seating of the new House in 2019. Real interesting, I think. And a little scary.
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I worry about what McConnell might do more so than Trump.
 
Redress said:
If he did a Saturday Nigh Massacre type thing, firing whoever he needed to until he got some one to fire Mueller, a strong argument could be made for obstruction of justice. That is the premise of this thread. I do not think it is likely to happen, but it does seem more likely today than it used to.
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In reality, I think Trump would have to go pretty deep, maybe more than Nixon. I don't think Sessions or Rosenstein would go for it. Rosenstein is looking pretty pro-Mueller/anti-Trump these days. Actually, I'm not even sure Sessions could order Rosenstein due to his recusal.
 
Times sure are changing rapidly.I remember not so long ago when Republicans hated Communism and Russians.Now they love both.
 
Redress said:
All signs in August do not mean alot come November. Complacency could kill the democrats chance, as could poor messaging between now and November.
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Thing is, this has been a trend for well over a year now, so I'm more hopeful.
 
Chomsky said:
Because he would be obstructing an investigation into himself.

Gowdy has no purview over Mueller.
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Gowdy took his sweet ass time investigating Clinton, over two years. Gowdy can go pound sand, and let this play out.
 
Chomsky said:
That date doesn't ring a bell with me. What is it that happened?
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Please understand, Chomsky, it is not a bias against any party, but my answer is merely an example for why i feel the way I do.

On July 5th, 2016, less than a week after the meeting of DOJ head Loretta Lynch (first appointed to a post by Bill Clinton) and Bill Clinton....I repeat...less than a week later, The FBI head dismisses all investigations into Hillary Clinton.
Connect the dots. Lynch was the FBI head's boss who told him to not even call it an investigation, but a "matter".
Then after meeting with the guy who first appointed her to her federal position, he drops the "matter" and recommends no prosecution.
I was born at night, but not LAST NIGHT.
This reeks of the powers that be letting one of their own off.

Rule of Law in this country died that day, Chomsky. July 5th, 2016.

What Trump does after that will just be more of the same.

Those in power are above the law, and there is no Rule of Law for them. Only for us, the "little people".
Trump can fire whoever he wants and nothing will happen.
Hillary can do whatever she wants and nothing will happen.
Obama can do whatever he wants and nothing will happen.

The elites will never be held accountable for any crimes they commit.
We are a third world country and those in power can use any and all federal departments they control to attack their opponents any way they choose.
...and get away with it. They answer to no one.

Democrat, Republican, Progressive or extreme right, they have been given the go-ahead to do anything they want to do after July 5th, 2016.

This is what happens when the heads of the most powerful law enforcement agencies are POLITICAL appointments.
 
TurtleDude said:
you've been calling for Trump's impeachment since about the day he won. what exactly would be the legal grounds for your pipe dream?
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This one’s for McConnell and Turtle. I have but one more post like this tonight. 8:00 AM will come early tomorrow. None of us are sleeping enough hours. (My CPAP helps) Its off around Noon tomorrow for a several-day Farm ‘Vacation’, before School Starts.

All I have to do is think like My Father and Father-in-Law. It also helps to even attempt to think like what I feel are our Eight Greatest Presidents.

McConnell was stricken with Polio as a 2-yo. His story is Impressive. This from me, his greatest critic on DP. His book ‘The Long Game’ is a must-read. We must all Pray for Sen. McConnell, with the weight of the World on his shoulders. I’ll not dither more this late on Pence/Kasich.

As a Prosecutor who served his Nation with a Life-Long Commitment, I know you’re torn. No need for me to keep repeating why this should happen. As the Chemist in me would remind, Catagorizing and Conceptualizing are the Key. ( And now a cognizant application of the Theory of Threes )

A simple list of positives and negatives comparing Trump and Pence should be enough. As we saw in 1974, tapes and polls made a difference. ( The Tariff Row IS New) ( The Foreign Policy Overseas is Most Frightening ) An Avalanche each day must be tearing Ryan and McConnell apart. I Pray for them.
 
FreeWits said:
Clearly there will have to be unlimited taxpayer money for an unlimited amount of time to go after an unlimited amount of leads in way that has no natural end. What Democrats are doing to Trump they will have done to them eventually.
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We're not doing anything. We are harmless, out of power. Blaming us is like blaming the dog for one's flatulence. Everyone knows better.
 
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