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Would you support an American theocracy?

Would you support an American theocracy?

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Risky Thicket

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Simple enough. Using the definition below would you support an American theocracy? Why? Why not?


[h=2]the·oc·ra·cy[/h] (thē-ŏk′rə-sē)

n. pl. the·oc·ra·cies1. Government ruled by or subject to religious authority.
2. A country or state governed in this way.
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No, absolutely not. This is one of the few things that would make me legitimately consider leaving the country and finding another one to live in.
 
I voted Never. I do not support and would not support an American theocracy no matter what religion, not mine, not yours, not anyone's.
 
Absolutely not. Theocracy is stupid and tend to end very poorly in the long term.
 
Seems to me to violate the 1st Amendment.
 
Even as a Christian, I say no.
 
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My support is for an earthly theocracy...I cast my vote for that when I was baptized over 42 years ago...
 
Risky Thicket said:
Simple enough. Using the definition below would you support an American theocracy? Why? Why not?


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"In God We Trust" is the official motto of the United States of America
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You already have a theocracy.
And a oligarchy.
Not to forget, also an idiocracy.

One day you might get around to trying a democracy.
 
Elvira said:
My support is for an earthly theocracy...I cast my vote for that when I was baptized over 42 years ago...
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Most baptisms have someone speak for the one being baptized, as they are infants. Our family did it different, mine happened when I was 6, my sister 8. Still hardly worldly enough to make big decisions.
 
Absolutely not.

When one looks at Republicans however, while it’s a tent of many different interests, libertarian, fiscal conservativism, the social conservative aspect is disturbingly theocratic, whether many of those folks would admit it or even understand it is another story.

When it comes to science, women’s rights, LGBT rights and education, American social conservatives are, in my view, very extreme and detrimental to these areas.

America has a lot to gain from losing its fascination with religion.
 
Rexedgar said:
Most baptisms have someone speak for the one being baptized, as they are infants. Our family did it different, mine happened when I was 6, my sister 8. Still hardly worldly enough to make big decisions.
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I agree...a child cannot possible understand the weight of what a baptism involves at such a young age...it is a lifetime commitment, or at least it should be...you are making a vow to God...
 
Elvira said:
My support is for an earthly theocracy...I cast my vote for that when I was baptized over 42 years ago...
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I’ve been baptized too. Can you explain what you mean? Are talking about on a personal level?
 
Risky Thicket said:
Simple enough. Using the definition below would you support an American theocracy? Why? Why not?


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What do you expect the poll results to be?
 
i find the question to be loaded.

how many people would say yes, i cannot see really any.

to me the thread sets its itself up as a reglion has no place , and gives some people a platform to blame religion for todays problems.
 
Master PO said:
i find the question to be loaded.

how many people would say yes, i cannot see really any.

to me the thread sets its itself up as a reglion has no place , and gives some people a platform to blame religion for todays problems.
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Using the definition the question is clear.
 
Risky Thicket said:
Simple enough. Using the definition below would you support an American theocracy? Why? Why not?
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of course not
the moment any lunacy like that would happen is the movement we are no longer america but something else .. civil war would happen and people would fee the country
 
Risky Thicket said:
I have no idea whatsoever?
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There are some people who agree with these folks, but I doubt they would admit it here on DP:
America’s Christian nationalists have a new plan for advancing their legislative goals in state capitols across the country. Its stated aim is to promote “religious freedom.” Not shy, they call it “Project Blitz.”

“Blitz” accurately describes the spirit of the enterprise, but the mission has little to do with what most Americans would call religious freedom. This is just the latest attempt by religious extremists to use the coercive powers of government to secure a privileged position in society for their version of Christianity.

The idea behind Project Blitz is to overwhelm state legislatures with bills based on centrally manufactured legislation. “It’s kind of like whack-a-mole for the other side; it’ll drive ‘em crazy that they’ll have to divide their resources out in opposing this,” David Barton, the Christian nationalist historian and one of four members of Project Blitz’s “steering team,” said in a conference call with state legislators from around the country that was later made public.

According to research provided by Americans United for Separation of Church and State, more than 70 bills before state legislatures appear to be based on Project Blitz templates or have similar objectives. Some of the bills are progressing rapidly. An Oklahoma measure, which has passed the legislature and is awaiting the governor’s signature, allows adoption and foster care agencies to discriminate on the basis of their own religious beliefs. Others, such as a Minnesota bill that would allow public schools to post “In God We Trust” signs on their walls, have provoked hostile debates in local and national media, which is in many cases the point of the exercise.

“ ‘Project Blitz’ Seeks to Do for Christian Nationalism What ALEC Does for Big Business,” reads the headline of a recent piece Frederick Clarkson wrote for Religion Dispatches that highlighted the danger. ALEC, of course, is the corporate lobbying group that crafts and promotes model legislation advancing business interests.

In their guidebook for state legislators and other allies, the authors of the Project Blitz program have grouped their model legislation into three categories, according to anticipated difficulty of passage. The first category consists of symbolic gestures, like resolutions to emblazon the motto “In God We Trust” on as many moving objects as possible (like, say, police cars).
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More :
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/26/opinion/project-blitz-christian-nationalists.html

Barton writes the fake history books many christain home schoolers use.
 
Absolutely not, leads to all kinds of bad things... historically proven.
 
Master PO said:
i find the question to be loaded.

how many people would say yes, i cannot see really any.

to me the thread sets its itself up as a reglion has no place , and gives some people a platform to blame religion for todays problems.
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There are lots of ways to skew a poll, most commonly by adding commentary to the OP or the responses. Risky didn’t do that, so I think he really was just curious what people thought.
 
Master PO said:
i find the question to be loaded.

how many people would say yes, i cannot see really any.

to me the thread sets its itself up as a reglion has no place , and gives some people a platform to blame religion for todays problems.
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on what honest and rational basis do you find that on... seems you have to assume a whole lot with zero support to come up with that left field assumption. I think your assumption is way more loaded than the op.
 
X Factor said:
I’ve been baptized too. Can you explain what you mean? Are talking about on a personal level?
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God's kingdom is a tangible government that Jesus told us to pray for...actually God's kingdom is the whole theme of the Bible, the whole focus of Jesus' teachings while he was on the earth...

"Let your Kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also on earth." Matt. 6:9
 
Josie said:
What do you expect the poll results to be?
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I cannot speak for Risky, but I expect a lot of "OTHER" votes from people who secretly DO support the idea, but don't have the guts to come out and say so openly. The C Street Fellowship, also known as "The Family", the group that sponsors the National Prayer Breakfast, has a treasure trove of internal documents that lay out specific plans for an American theocracy however they rarely if ever speak publicly on anything at all, much less their grand plans for the future of this nation.

It would seem understandable that most people who favor such an idea will never make their beliefs known publicly. The few souls who do, tend to speak mostly from television pulpits and make a very good living at it.

Theocrats don't advocate openly, neither do any other types of demagogues.
Instead, they quietly work behind the scenes to lay waste to American institutions which support the republic and the power of its representative democracy and, like our Russian friends, sow hatred and distrust of our most important and basic institutions.

What would be the payoff in saying, "Hell yes I support an American theocracy!" ?
They'd get a few responses that sound a lot like mine, "Over my dead body, bring it on." and that would be that.
No one would take them seriously.

But groups like The Family do.
Dominionists do.
 
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