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Trump's Pregnancy Concerns

If Trump paid for a recent abortion, will he lose supporters?

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Waddy said:
You can characterize the economy any way you want, everyone cherry picks the numbers. I personally think interest rates need to go a little higher, slowly, to be more in line with historical levels, and to give the Fed somewhere to go in the next recession. Higher rates will, however, decimate the Federal budget as we do have to service debt even if we don't pay down any principle. The tariff issue does need to be addressed, and tariffs reduced by all the players to a bare minimum. That seems to be Trump's desired goal, as he has said.

As to separating parents from children; it was done under Obama, and should continue. We have an obligation to those children once they cross the border to make sure they aren't being used as pawns by strangers, abused, sent over the border alone, and that whomever says they are the parent can offer some proof of that fact. We do the same here in this country when the family situation is under question. Put the kids in foster care until it's straightened out.
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To take the last statement first -- you have been listening to right-wing propaganda if you repeat the lie that Obama separated parents from children indiscriminately, the way Trump is doing. According to USA Today's factcheck,
“Bush and Obama did not have policies that resulted in the mass separation of parents and children like we’re seeing under the current administration,” Sarah Pierce, a policy analyst with the Migration Policy Institute, told us.
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Separation under Obama occurred rarely, in cases when human trafficing was suspected or when there was doubt that the adults were relatives.

Regarding the first statement about the Fed. The Fed has a duel responsibility to control inflation and unemployment. The Fed raises interest rates when inflation is on the horizon or when the economy is overheating. It makes no sense to set a benchmark based upon historical interest rates, regardless of what was going on when those interest rates were in place.

If Trump's goal is to lower tariffs to the bare minimum, he has a funny way of doing it. G-7 nations already have low tariffs and nobody is taking advantage of poor little America. He's just doing what he does best, be a whinny little 8itch.
 
Waddy said:
I don't give a rat's *** about any president's personal life. None of them are saints. I support what he's trying to do for the economy. So he has my support unless he changes course on economic issues.
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Wait till you see what he does with the economy. That's shaping up to be an abortion in of itself.
 
Born Free said:
That's a hypothetical, but in reality your Bubba Clinton was accused of rape, he ****ed all his conquest in front of your beloved Hillary. She then goes out and tries to destroy the woman, but not her ****ing husband. Then your Pubba gets his blow jobs in the oval office from a young intern. Then your Bubba lies under oath. And you cheered him on.
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I was in high school for half the 90s. Just the same, there is nothing that Bill Clinton was accused of that Trump has not been accused of.
 
Trump lies his ass off -- his supporters don't give one iota of a ****.
Trump is more delicate than a spring snowflake -- his supporters don't give one iota of a ****.
Trump could grab every underage ***** from Los Angeles to New York City -- his supporters would not give one iota of a ****. Well... maybe a few iotas.
Trump could murder someone in the street -- his supporters would not give one iota of a ****. (He said it himself, didn't he?)
Trump says on tape he wants his girlfriend to have an abortion* -- they will come with pitchforks.


* Complete hypothetical and untrue. At least for the time being.
 
Beaudreaux said:
I don't think that all his supporters would stand by him, especially if it turns out he paid for and pressured a woman into having an abortion. But, I've been wrong before.
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Democrats loves abortion. I would think they'd applaud him for supporting it.
 
Waddy said:
Most of it depends on how you're invested. I've never used a fund or manager. I picked the stocks that went into the Roth. My best investment by far was rental property, but I got out of that when I retired. I did plow most of that back into stocks. Had to do some fancy footwork to sidestep the capital gains but it worked out OK in the end.
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Great to hear. My retirement 401k is with Vanguard. No complaints there. Could be better.
 
Exactice said:
Its funny.... as that is supposed to relevant.

My Roth, IRA's and Annuities have been Extremely Conservative FOR YEARS. Especially when the First Bubble hit in 2008 and the stocks dropped below the 10,000. I left it conservative. I have been bouncing back and forth with my Financial Adviser, Business has grown for me, my income has increased substantially and for what ever reason I asked my FA to flip the switch from Conservative to Mid Risk. Just because and this was assuming already the Market being around 23,000 I would fear another bubble.

Trump does his trade wars Jan 2018 after I flip the switch and I take 2 nasty slaps, 700 point drop and 400 point drop. All the Money I put in from 01/2018 to 05/2018 is lost. Basically netted Zero. But I still have what I have. Now current with it taking a jump to 25,000 its been on a nice tick recovery. Since my investments have become mid risk it enjoying the jump from 21,000 to 25,000 since the beginning after the first quarter bubble hit. Secondly when I filed by Taxes first year I did NOT have to pay $Thousands More in taxes I actually broke even with my quarterly estimated as well as a pretty substantial increase in income...


So I am not complaining?
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Like I said, it depends on the stock. Some of my primary stocks have been Netflix, because I thought it was a great idea and I signed up. (I will sell soon as they will be facing some serious competition) Walmart, because my wife shops there, WWE because my youngest son is a fan, Home Depot ( I really, really wish I could invest in Menard's. Great company. If they ever go public I will be first in line) because I shop there and Ingersol Rand because I like the tools they make. Of course, there are quite a few more, but I invest in what I know.

My own returns have been around 8-9% per year, with the usual ups and downs. So all good.
 
MTAtech said:
To take the last statement first -- you have been listening to right-wing propaganda if you repeat the lie that Obama separated parents from children indiscriminately, the way Trump is doing. According to USA Today's factcheck, Separation under Obama occurred rarely, in cases when human trafficing was suspected or when there was doubt that the adults were relatives.

Regarding the first statement about the Fed. The Fed has a duel responsibility to control inflation and unemployment. The Fed raises interest rates when inflation is on the horizon or when the economy is overheating. It makes no sense to set a benchmark based upon historical interest rates, regardless of what was going on when those interest rates were in place.

If Trump's goal is to lower tariffs to the bare minimum, he has a funny way of doing it. G-7 nations already have low tariffs and nobody is taking advantage of poor little America. He's just doing what he does best, be a whinny little 8itch.
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The Fed has been raising interest rates with the aim of having a weapon in the quiver in case of a recession. Look it up. That's a fact. And going to a more traditional interest rate would slow down the runaway housing bubble we're seeing again.

So trump separating children from adults does have a precedent in the Obama administration. I thought I was correct on that. Making sure all children are indeed accompanied by their biological parents is a good idea.
 
calamity said:
Well, having bareback vaginal sex with fertile women while unsnipped will bring up such concerns.

So, question time.
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Trump is a male and can not get pregnant. :roll:
 
calamity said:
Well, having bareback vaginal sex with fertile women while unsnipped will bring up such concerns.

So, question time.
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So this might be a reality:

https://twitter.com/RVAwonk/status/1022690398282629120

NEW: @ABC7 reports that @MichaelAvenatti told a panel in @WeHoCity tonight that he’s representing three MORE women who say they were paid hush money by Trump, Michael Cohen, & AMI (parent company of Nat. Enquirer) prior to the election.

One of the women says was impregnated..!
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Waddy said:
I don't give a rat's *** about any president's personal life. None of them are saints. I support what he's trying to do for the economy. So he has my support unless he changes course on economic issues.
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It would be nice if the orange nightmare practiced what you preach..But he doesn't unfortunately.We have a bottom feeding sewer dweller claiming he is 'draining the swamp." Bad news is many of those 'Swampers' are now,or have been,or will be in his administration......until they exhibit more loyalty to the USA than the Coward-in-Chief.Then they are flushed out the door.
 
Captain America said:
IMO....

Anyone who STILL supports Comrade Trump will support him until their dying day. There is nothing he can say or do that will change their mind. Otherwise, their minds would have changed already.

We're stuck with them. Adapt and improvise.
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//// We're stuck with them.Adapt and improvise ///// ( i.e......hit the voting booth and start the democratic process of taking down the wannabe dictator and his enablers/cronies. )
 
I'm not convinced that any wrongdoing on Trump's part could cause his supporters to abandon him at this point.
 
calamity said:
Well, having bareback vaginal sex with fertile women while unsnipped will bring up such concerns.

So, question time.
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NO.They voted for him knowing he was an adulterer,pro-choice, liberal,donated money to liberal democrats and RINO republicans and many other things before running for president.When informed about these things they merely responded with" But that was yesterday he did or said those things" or some form of it. The same way Clinton supporters dismissed all her faults.They either dismissed it as old news or they dismissed it as merely a partisan hack attack.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
It doesn't have to be true or false, just assuming it hypothetically were true, would he lose supporters?

The answer is unequivocally no. Trump has violated the deepest held beliefs of conservatives, Christians, and Republicans over and over and over and over again, yet they still cheer on "More! More!!!" The right cares more about their man on the inside and his temporary power than they do about anything they claim to stand for.
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Ok, hypothetically, he DOES lose the majority of his supporters, what then?
 
Born Free said:
That's a hypothetical, but in reality your Bubba Clinton was accused of rape, he ****ed all his conquest in front of your beloved Hillary. She then goes out and tries to destroy the woman, but not her ****ing husband. Then your Pubba gets his blow jobs in the oval office from a young intern. Then your Bubba lies under oath. And you cheered him on.
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"Whataboutism". Yay.
 
Logician Man said:
It would be nice if the orange nightmare practiced what you preach..But he doesn't unfortunately.We have a bottom feeding sewer dweller claiming he is 'draining the swamp." Bad news is many of those 'Swampers' are now,or have been,or will be in his administration......until they exhibit more loyalty to the USA than the Coward-in-Chief.Then they are flushed out the door.
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No one will EVER drain the swamp. It is integral to how Washington operates, ingrained deeper than a tick on a hound dog. What Trump's doing is digging out the ticks that have been working against him, often in departments that are supposed to be neutral players. The one thing we've learned from all of this is there is no such thing as "neutral" in Washington. That myth has been destroyed.
 
holbritter said:
Ok, hypothetically, he DOES lose the majority of his supporters, what then?
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Then the winds of change can finally come. I'd rather have literally any other republican, including Pence in the white house, because he's at least an adult and cares more about his country than his ego.
 
Waddy said:
No one will EVER drain the swamp. It is integral to how Washington operates, ingrained deeper than a tick on a hound dog. What Trump's doing is digging out the ticks that have been working against him, often in departments that are supposed to be neutral players. The one thing we've learned from all of this is there is no such thing as "neutral" in Washington. That myth has been destroyed.
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Trump is the worst tick in D.C...He's too busy doing damage control to properly run the country. Nixon had Watergate. Trump has Collusion/Obstructiongate. He can't keep his mouth shut and he's very thin skinned. ( 2 traits that help make for a failed Presidency....or worse.)
 
Logician Man said:
Trump is the worst tick in D.C...He's too busy doing damage control to properly run the country. Nixon had Watergate. Trump has Collusion/Obstructiongate. He can't keep his mouth shut and he's very thin skinned. ( 2 traits that help make for a failed Presidency....or worse.)
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4.1% growth this quarter. Far from a failed presidency.
 
SouthernDemocrat said:
I was in high school for half the 90s. Just the same, there is nothing that Bill Clinton was accused of that Trump has not been accused of.
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Really, show me were Trump lied under oath? And show me when Trump got all his blow jobs from an intern in the oval office.
 
Born Free said:
Really, show me were Trump lied under oath? And show me when Trump got all his blow jobs from an intern in the oval office.
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Trump is a pathological liar, the most dishonest president by a wide margin in American history. You think he has some moral impediment against lying under oath? Trump was sleeping with pornstars (that he was paying) when he had a newborn baby at home, you think he has some moral impediment about getting a blowjob? Come on.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Then the winds of change can finally come. I'd rather have literally any other republican, including Pence in the white house, because he's at least an adult and cares more about his country than his ego.
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Losing supporters doesn't mean he'll just quit and leave. And no to Pence. That scares me more than Trump.
 
RabidAlpaca said:
Then the winds of change can finally come. I'd rather have literally any other republican, including Pence in the white house, because he's at least an adult and cares more about his country than his ego.
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I disagree. Pence cares more about religion than his country.
 
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