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If Liberals Or Conservatives 100% Had Their Own Way Would It Not Be Fascism?

If Liberals Or Conservatives 100% Had Their Own Way Would It Not Be Fascism?

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CentristFascist said:
You say that now, tomorrow people like yourself (maybe people more to the extremes of you). But still, they will want all non-progressives dead and start fighting in the streets verbally/physically. So what do you propose is a practical solution then? -_-
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Arrest violent offenders.......
 
CentristFascist said:
I'm from Australia mate. My bloodline I have some aboriginal and Indian heritage also... Wheres my privillege points bruh? XD
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Good for you, I couldn't possibly care less about your heritage. The entire concept of feeling pride or some sort of privilege from something you had no control over is rather ridiculous to me.
 
Nap said:
Arrest violent offenders.......
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ANTIFA doesn't get arrested (under the guise of militarily fighting fascists) though because the media is left leaning authoritarian... That's what Im trying to say bruh, we are all fascists mate... Left, right, centrist we are all products of the same broken machine and system we are all: The same decaying organic matter as everything else! We are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world!
 
Nap said:
Good for you, I couldn't possibly care less about your heritage. The entire concept of feeling pride or some sort of privilege from something you had no control over is rather ridiculous to me.
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It was obviously a joke lmfao. Just the far-left screaming "My oppression" is extremely ridiculous that I had to point that out myself lmao XD
 
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At this current point in the world, if it were liberals. Then I would have to say yes.


Conservatives on the other hand, no. I may not be one myself, but I know more than a few and the ones that I follow online, get news sourced from and watch during their own debates. Make much better arguments against such a designation.

With liberals trying to chase the goal of socialism as it is. I can see them grabbing for power and shoving everyone else under their thumb in the events to follow.
 
upsideguy said:
Ah, no!

Fascism and communism may be perversions of right and left wing thinking, but each are extremes. Until recently, there was an anchor in left and right thinking in American democracy and capitalism. I say that as I feel, for the first time in my life, that the ropes of that anchor is fraying and may not hold. I fear that we currently are at risk of losing our core values and being pulled toward a brand of fascism.
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What are our core values?
 
CentristFascist said:
ANTIFA doesn't get arrested (under the guise of militarily fighting fascists) though because the media is left leaning authoritarian... That's what Im trying to say bruh, we are all fascists mate... Left, right, centrist we are all products of the same broken machine and system we are all: The same decaying organic matter as everything else! We are the all singing, all dancing crap of the world!
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No, we aren't all fascists. We still have quite a few people in America holding on the concept of individual liberty which is antithetical to Fascism, Socialism, Communism, and any other form of authoritarian collectivism.

As far as ANTIFA goes, anyone that crosses over to violence and destruction of property should be arrested. Non-violent members should be able to protest till they run out of pumpkin spice lattes should they want to.
 
Oborosen said:
At this current point in the world, if it were liberals. Then I would have to say yes.


Conservatives on the other hand, no. I may not be one myself, but I know more than a few and the ones that I follow online, get news sourced from and watch during their own debates. Make much better arguments against such a designation.

With liberals trying to chase the goal of socialism as it is. I can see them grabbing for power and shoving everyone else under their thumb in the events to follow.
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Arguing with any bias makes you a liability in the eyes of the authoritarian media of all sides. Your position is also illogical because it's only subjective sir. It can be easily refuted by selective facts because you are doing exactly the same thing... -_-
 
CentristFascist said:
You also essentially realise everything you have said is only the way America functions and operates I'm talking on a global scale mate. I'm not one of these illogical biggoted idiots who believe America owns the world and etc... Essentially we need an Artificial Intelligence based global dictatorship. Which is entirely based upon only mathematically, scientifically etc making absolute correct calculations/determinations of the way human beings who should be allowed to prosper, evolve, contribute and continually progress/advance in this ever changing world of which we live.
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Then try stating that in your OP instead of being vague. Unless this is a bait thread, then you got what you wanted.
 
Nap said:
No, we aren't all fascists. We still have quite a few people in America holding on the concept of individual liberty which is antithetical to Fascism, Socialism, Communism, and any other form of authoritarian collectivism.

As far as ANTIFA goes, anyone that crosses over to violence and destruction of property should be arrested. Non-violent members should be able to protest till they run out of pumpkin spice lattes should they want to.
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I agree, but that just isn't realistic sir. People "protesting" more often then not are generally punks on all sides just looking for an excuse to fight!
I hope your drones (American military used to bomb the Taliban etc) just bomb Texas, San Francisco if they become self conscious lmao it'd definitely illustrate and make a good point... I'd find it very ironic, because of ****ed up human nature. I'd probably laugh till my head falls off lmfao. You don't realise nor see the flaws in your own ****ed up system (SORT YOUR OWN **** OUT) Stop carpet bomb the rest of the world. Get off the rest of the world... I trust the U.N a lot more then America. You talk about democracy? Actions speak louder then words bro!
 
CentristFascist said:
Arguing with any bias makes you a liability in the eyes of the authoritarian media of all sides. Your position is also illogical because it's only subjective sir. It can be easily refuted by selective facts because you are doing exactly the same thing... -_-
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From what we have seen them doing in the past decade, liberals are far more likely to do this than are conservatives at this point.

You ask the question and I gave my answer.

Now if you have an actual way of refuting this, then by all means. Go ahead and do so.
 
CentristFascist said:
Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe anyways. :peace
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Fascists are fascist. Not every form of authoritarianism is Fascism.
 
holbritter said:
Then try stating that in your OP instead of being vague. Unless this is a bait thread, then you got what you wanted.
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This is the problem with millennials and subjectivity no one can have any completely unique and or original opinions/views (otherwise) The left/right winged fascists will censor and ban you because I'm not saying what you want to hear... Practise what you preach "Democracy" "Freedom" then you go and give Sharia law Saudi Arabia massive donations and power? This is literally ridiculous/insane
 
CentristFascist said:
I agree, but that just isn't realistic sir. People "protesting" more often then not are generally punks on all sides just looking for an excuse to fight!
I hope your drones (American military used to bomb the Taliban etc) just bomb Texas, San Francisco if they become self conscious lmao it'd definitely illustrate and make a good point... I'd find it very ironic, because of ****ed up human nature. I'd probably laugh till my head falls off lmfao. You don't realise nor see the flaws in your own ****ed up system (SORT YOUR OWN **** OUT) Stop carpet bomb the rest of the world. Get off the rest of the world... I trust the U.N a lot more then America. You talk about democracy? Actions speak louder then words bro!
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I know we are oddballs to the rest of the world but in America we have freedom of speech and while it may get attacked by the fringes it is cherished by the majority.

Considering my views on local governance and my statement on it is the duty of those in the middle east to resolve the issue themselves especially considering our intervention has traditionally made matters worse, it should be obvious I am in 100% agreement that we need to stop bombing the rest of the world.
 
All bias/opinions are emotionally driven and subjective unfortunately they will just be refuted brother. Then you will just be seen a "far-right borderline nazi" even if you aren't... I know this extremely well for a fact you don't understand how much research and or how much I forensically/psycho analysed this topic to the point it will drive you completely insane! Although because of my aspergers I am more immune to this. Although, I have done this for like nearly a decade man... I'm only 22 years old btw, what about you mate?
 
CentristFascist said:
This is the problem with millennials and subjectivity no one can have any completely unique and or original opinions/views (otherwise) The left/right winged fascists will censor and ban you because I'm not saying what you want to hear... Practise what you preach "Democracy" "Freedom" then you go and give Sharia law Saudi Arabia massive donations and power? This is literally ridiculous/insane
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Ok, your one of those. Done here.
 
holbritter said:
Ok, your one of those. Done here.
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One of who? Can you please elaborate and explain what that actually means? Or are you just going to run away and have a tantrum? Practice what you preach "Stars And Stripes" Cmon give me some good old American "freedom and liberty" enlightenment like the founding fathers... XD
 
Oborosen said:
From what we have seen them doing in the past decade, liberals are far more likely to do this than are conservatives at this point.

You ask the question and I gave my answer.

Now if you have an actual way of refuting this, then by all means. Go ahead and do so.
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From a global perspective he has a point, the American Right is quite different from the rest of the world. He would be referring to something like the Alt-right in the US who are largely Euro style ethno-nationalist.
 
CentristFascist said:
Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe anyways. :peace
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I honestly, genuinely believe your belief is wrong. The horrors inflicted by both Naziism and Communism have not yet faded from our memories.

You, like most people, equate Naziism with fascism. You might read, say, a biography of Mussolini from which you will learn that there were significant differences. Th Nazis never thought of themselves themselves as 'fascists'.
 
upsideguy said:
Ah, no!

Fascism and communism may be perversions of right and left wing thinking, but each are extremes. Until recently, there was an anchor in left and right thinking in American democracy and capitalism. I say that as I feel, for the first time in my life, that the ropes of that anchor is fraying and may not hold. I fear that we currently are at risk of losing our core values and being pulled toward a brand of fascism.
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It cannot be said too often that both naziism and fascisism arose out of left wing movements. Hitler developed his skills as an orator at Socialist gatherings and Mussolini was the foremost Italian Socialist intellectual of his day. Sticking a 'rightist' label on them is simply to blindly accept Stalinist propaganda.
 
Sweden said:
It cannot be said too often that both naziism and fascisism arose out of left wing movements. Hitler developed his skills as an orator at Socialist gatherings and Mussolini was the foremost Italian Socialist intellectual of his day. Sticking a 'rightist' label on them is simply to blindly accept Stalinist propaganda.
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Try arguing the left with that logic and you will be factually destroyed to pieces bro...
 
CentristFascist said:
Imo objectively and factually everyone is a fascist whether they admit it or not. Essentially everyone just wants their own way... If liberals had their way we would be living in Stalinist Russia or Maoist China. If conservatives had their way we would probably all be living in Nazi Germany or something similar. This is what I honestly genuinely believe anyways. :peace
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Oh, good GOD! WHY do people have this fascination with misrepresenting this word these days to such an extremely absurd degree? Fascism is not simply about getting one's way!

FASCISM: A political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race (Germany, not Italy) above the individual. It stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

Fascism is not simply about being a dictator. And despite some similarities, the very big differences are exactly why nobody declares Hitler a communist or Stalin and Mao as fascists. They were all dictators, who employed totalitarian tactics, appreciated socialistic tools for society, within distinct socioeconomic and political systems.

- If Liberals had their way, we would be living in a Social Democrat's world. Social Democrats, by the way, opposed Hitler in Germany and opposed socialism in the Soviet Union and in Mao's China. For some more perspective, Stalin hated Atlee's Labor Party in Britain.

- If Conservatives had their way, we would be living in a socially regimented world, based on tradition, with corporate capitalism leading the way. The conservative German elite, by the way, opposed Hitler for his elimination of class distinction, which actually opposed the need for strict class structure found in Italian Fascism.

By simplifying these terms to such a degree, we misrepresent what the hell they even are.
 
CentristFascist said:
Mate don't tell me that if you had the power to force all White Supremacists, Neo-Nazis and or Radical Christian conservative groups out of existence you would not do so... I perfectly admit I would definitely do so (because I'm genuine and honest). But I would also exterminate all communists and radical liberals out of existence because Extremism breeds Extremism (Stalin was no better then Hitler) Objectively Stalin actually killed more people also but that is irrelevant. If I had the power I definitely would be a fascist and I think you would also be a fascist of a different sort such as you would want this:
("All hail Che Guvera") lmfao XD
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You speak for yourself - as is your right. But you idea that the best way to fight extremism is by becoming an extremist is very, very silly. I am left wondering how old you are - and how much history have you experienced?
 
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