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Have you ever regretted your vote for a US president?

Have you ever regretted your vote for a US president?

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Checkerboard Strangler said:
---The thing that is convincing me that they're an organized crime syndicate is the fact that no matter WHO in their party condemns the actions of Team Trump, that person is unceremoniously destroyed, and evicted from the party.
They're using the "no true Scotsman" also known as "no true Muslim" technique to reflexively discredit and demonize ANYONE and EVERYONE who dares to question Trump loyalty.

Is "organized crime syndicate" too harsh? Okay...CULT, if it's not an organized crime syndicate, it's a cult.
But it is not a party and it is not conservative.

If anyone wants to argue that the Democratic Party isn't really liberal, I won't fight them all that hard on that charge because that's a beef I have with them all the time. It's not that they aren't "liberal enough", it's that they aren't even remotely liberal at all.
The Democratic Party ruling elites are neoliberal "diet Republicans" almost to a one.

And if the day ever comes that liberals are unceremoniously cast out and destroyed, and declared "not true Democrats" to the extent that we now see happening on the Republican side, that is the day I'll start calling the Democrats a cult, too.
It's happening to some extent, but it seems that the liberals actually might be gaining some ground.
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Tell you what, when you reach that day when you’re willing to be just as critical of the party you shill for as the one you despise, let me know. Maybe, then, you’ll have some credibility. Until then, all the names you call Repubs from criminals to cult members are nothing more than partisan idiocy from a partisan idi...never mind.
 
X Factor said:
Tell you what, when you reach that day when you’re willing to be just as critical of the party you shill for as the one you despise, let me know. Maybe, then, you’ll have some credibility. Until then, all the names you call Repubs from criminals to cult members are nothing more than partisan idiocy from a partisan idi...never mind.
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Credibility with X Factor, who read three separate posts where I said that I (A) didn't think "Bush did 9/11" and (B) where I said that I felt he screwed the pooch on the response but that (C) he was more or less the pawn anyway, that same X Factor who read all of that and deduces that I think "Bush did 9/11".

That is some ****ing dubious credibility that I want no part of.

Credibility where, in X Factor's opinion:

"If anyone wants to argue that the Democratic Party isn't really liberal, I won't fight them all that hard on that charge because that's a beef I have with them all the time. It's not that they aren't "liberal enough", it's that they aren't even remotely liberal at all.
The Democratic Party ruling elites are neoliberal "diet Republicans" almost to a one.

And if the day ever comes that liberals are unceremoniously cast out and destroyed, and declared "not true Democrats" to the extent that we now see happening on the Republican side, that is the day I'll start calling the Democrats a cult, too."
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STILL ISN'T GOOD enough.
That is some dubious ****ing credibility.

Don't sweat it, dude...I need your credibility award about as much as I need excess body hair.

Oh and, by the way, thank you for ONCE AGAIN making this thread ABOUT ME.
That seems to be your one trick with regard to just about any conversation we ever have.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Credibility with X Factor, who read three separate posts where I said that I (A) didn't think "Bush did 9/11" and (B) where I said that I felt he screwed the pooch on the response but that (C) he was more or less the pawn anyway, that same X Factor who read all of that and deduces that I think "Bush did 9/11".

That is some ****ing dubious credibility that I want no part of.

Credibility where, in X Factor's opinion:




STILL ISN'T GOOD enough.
That is some dubious ****ing credibility.

Don't sweat it, dude...I need your credibility award about as much as I need excess body hair.
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Are there any righties you have any credibility with?
 
chuckiechan said:
I voted for Obama thinking maybe that would help get blacks out of their rut. But he only got them in deeper.
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That doesn't make any sense.
You're a conservative, yes?
Personal responsibility, my friend...it's one of the qualities in conservatives that I find the most admirable, it's one of the qualities that I think liberals should try having more of.

The only thing a president, or any elected official can do, is remove practical, institutional and legal barriers, and penalize those who erect de facto sanctioned barriers.

To the extent that "the Blacks" may or may not be in a rut is totally up to those individual black people, and it's an individual issue, too.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest how it would seem if someone were to say the same thing about whites.
It would seem a little odd, wouldn't it?

Blacks do not own a rut.
 
X Factor said:
Are there any righties you have any credibility with?
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Should I seek out credibility with Righties?
Would that be a good thing, in your opinion?

To be honest, I dunno. I never thought of it in THOSE terms, I just hope to just have some ordinary "credibility" in a general sense.
That's what makes credibility what it is.

Are we done making this thread about me yet or is there more?
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
That doesn't make any sense.
You're a conservative, yes?
Personal responsibility, my friend...it's one of the qualities in conservatives that I find the most admirable, it's one of the qualities that I think liberals should try having more of.

The only thing a president, or any elected official can do, is remove practical, institutional and legal barriers, and penalize those who erect de facto sanctioned barriers.

To the extent that "the Blacks" may or may not be in a rut is totally up to those individual black people, and it's an individual issue, too.
If you think otherwise, might I suggest how it would seem if someone were to say the same thing about whites.
It would seem a little odd, wouldn't it?

Blacks do not own a rut.
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I have said this before, but just for you: You are reading way too much into it:
In our service centers, we "deselected" Latinos in favor of hiring blacks because we agreed that they needed the breaks and the Mexicans didn't. In my tiny little piece of **** 25,000 square feet of California my company made a tiny difference for a few people. It was no doubt illegal, but there is more to life than laws. Like football, social justice is a game of inches.

And in some areas this was not practical so we didn't.
 
Checkerboard Strangler said:
Should I seek out credibility with Righties?
Would that be a good thing, in your opinion?

To be honest, I dunno. I never thought of it in THOSE terms, I just hope to just have some ordinary "credibility" in a general sense.
That's what makes credibility what it is.

Are we done making this thread about me yet or is there more?
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Eh, calling righties criminals and cult members will, no doubt, boost your cred with some, but that’s not necessarily because what you’re saying is actually credible.
 
Interesting poll, X. Not something I'd ever thought about before, really.
 
X Factor said:
Eh, calling righties criminals and cult members will, no doubt, boost your cred with some, but that’s not necessarily because what you’re saying is actually credible.
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I didn't make a blanket statement about righties being criminals and cult members, I said that their party has turned into a cult.
Actually, I first attempted to compare the party to a crime syndicate, but thinking that might be too harsh, I suggested that maybe it's a cult.

The fact that many good conservatives have been leaving the party in droves is evidence to that, and the fact that many good conservatives are publicly advising that their fellow conservatives "vote Democrat" this November is evidence to that.

The amount of butt-hurt in your fabricated straw man is enough to act as its own lubricant, so I'll understand if you feel the need to have some loofah time with it.

We're done, unless you want to continue this elsewhere on this forum ;)
 
X Factor said:
Eh, calling righties criminals and cult members will, no doubt, boost your cred with some, but that’s not necessarily because what you’re saying is actually credible.
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His credibility went up 10x with me. Of course 10 times zero is still zero. :lol:
 
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1968- Nixon
1972- Nixon
1976- Ford
1980- Reagan
1984- Reagan
1988- Bush #1
1992- Bush #1
1996- Dole
2000- Bush #2
2004- Kerry
2008- Didn't vote
2012- Didn't vote
2016- Trump

So) 10 Republican - 2 Didn't votes - 1 Democrat

Only votes I may take back would be Bush #2 in 2000 & Maybe Kerry in 2004 I didn't like him but the way Bush handle Iraq made me do it

2008 & 2012 I was glad not to vote they all stunk in IMO
 
X Factor said:
Attaching poll. If your answer is yes, who and why?
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The last time was with Obama in 2012. I thought he did fairly decent his first four years and I had optimistic hopes for Obamacare. His last few years though he proved he could not work with a Republican Congress and would, in fact, go over their heads (and the heads of American voters) with executive orders in order to further the liberal agenda. It was either his way or the highway. And, as far as Obamacare goes, it was a disaster for me the very first year in went into effect and I am someone with more than one pre-existing condition. So, Democrats can't blame Republican sabotage to me because Obamacare turned my life upside down that very first year.
 
MrWonka said:
Why? Because an oil crisis he had no control over, and a hostage situation developed as a result of blowback from decisions made by previous Republican administrations?
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Kinda long story short. Had been in the Service for 3 years and it was right after Vietnam had wound down. Carter granted amnesty to draft dodgers, that did not sit well with many of my compadres, or myself to be honest. We saw him give away the Panama canal which led to other problems down there, we saw him allow Iran to attack our Embassy and failed to respond in any meaningful manner. He is almost the grandfather of modern terrorism and was a one termer for cause.

I was still young, Mama told me I was a Yellow Dog Dem like her, what did I know.
 
I was barely too young to vote in the McCain Obama election... since then, I have voted for Romney and Trump and do not regret either vote. Did I fully support Romney and Trump? No... I thought Romney was a moron and that Trump was unpredictable. But I don't regret either vote because Obama was destroying our country from the inside (and is why we have such increased political "hatred" and negative views towards policemen and such) and Hillary is nothing but a lying weaselly double talking crook, and has been her whole life. In this last election, I would have preferred someone like Ben Carson, but he didn't get chosen, and third party candidates are just a wasted vote... So, there's no choice but to go Republican every time (as long as Democrats keep putting up Socialist Fascist Communist Extremist Godless etc. etc. candidates). Democrats need to move MUCH more towards the center before I would ever consider voting for them...
 
I can understand why many liberals would regret their votes. :lol:
 
I would have been Romney's biggest supporter in 2012 had I known that we would end up with Trump in 2016 if Obama was reelected.
 
SDET said:
I'm not sure. I didn't vote for Trump, but sometimes wish I had when I see what kind of people his opponents are. I value the GOP and don't like it when someone cheapens the party. I get REALLY annoyed at people that act like you're supposed to become a Democrat just because you see Trump's liabilities.
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Than Republicans should impeach Trump before he ruins your party!
 
MrWonka said:
The 2000 election was my first ever time voting. I thought Clinton had done a solid job, but didn't care for Gore, and thought it would be a good idea to switch it up. I wanted to vote for McCain, but he lost the primary, and I thought Bush was an idiot. So I decided to protest the two-party system and vote for Ralph Nader. I'll never make that mistake again. I've voted Democrat across the board in every election since.
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Voting for Ralph Nader is always a bad vote.
 
Needed an "Other."

My answer is "No but I've regretted the choices to vote for."

More than once. Including this most recent election.
 
In the 2016 election, I voted for Jill Stein. If I had to do it again, I would have voted for Gary Johnson.
 
X Factor said:
Attaching poll. If your answer is yes, who and why?
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Not one bit. If we had a redo election today, knowing everything I know today, I would still vote third party. One simple reason, neither Trump nor Clinton belonged within a million miles of the white house.

Now if our redo election was between Trump and some other democrat than Hillary, I would vote for some other democrat. If our redo election was between some other republican than Trump vs. Hillary, I would vote for some other republican. Such was and is my disdain for both Trump and Clinton, with either one becoming president of this nation.
 
Perotista said:
Not one bit. If we had a redo election today, knowing everything I know today, I would still vote third party. One simple reason, neither Trump nor Clinton belonged within a million miles of the white house.
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And that wasted, self-indulgent vote is one reason why we have the idiot in the WH that we do.

Edit: not meant just for you, but for anyone that did so.
 
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